New MacBook Airs Experiencing Logic Board Issues?

[KnightWRX]

this is your idea of stability? an error message with no information to troubleshoot on?

There's plenty of info following a kernel panic, including a full dump you can run through GDB to see where exactly the panic occurred. You just need to know where to look for it.

When the OS is panicing, it starts dumping as much information as it can. A screen or console is the wrong place to do it, because the user can't have easy access to it.

If you had done any Unix work, you'd know this is how it goes. You want to bring the system back up first, then you want to troubleshoot. Logs/dumps are the best place for information.

The fact that you would use this against Macs shows how much you've yet to learn about Unix.

 

[pr5owner]

Switching gears to BD, did you know that VuDu Box, Roku Box and now Netflix offer 1080P streaming? I believe 1080P is 1080P. So I am trying to understand how a BD would have higher resolution than 1080P when the high res LCD's and Plasmas are 1080P. Blu Ray will be dead like USB 3.0.

ffs.......

1080p internet streaming is not 1080p BD Quality, many people have told you that bitrate if FAR MORE IMPORTANT than just the resolution of the video.

you could encode a 1080p movie and have it 200MB in size and have it look like total ****, is that 1080p the same quality as a 20+ GB movie?

its the same as a 5 Minute song encoded at 32kbps vs 320kbps, both of them are 5 minutes, 1 is HIGHER QUALITY

also again....... show me proof that BD is dead

here is proof that its more alive than ever (this article was 2008)
http://www.cdrlabs.com/forums/sales-continues-outstrip-early-dvd-market-performance-t24407.html

this article is this year
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/04/07/blu-ray-sales-increase-nearly-70-in-q1-2010/

and another

http://www.techradar.com/news/video/blu-ray/blu-ray-sees-significant-sales-bounce-in-2010-683738

USB 3 cannot possibly be dead, nearly all new
Motherboards (180+ models on newegg have at least 2x USB3 ports, with some models coming out with ALL usb 3 and no USB 2)
Laptop (Asus has USB 3 laptops in Jan of this year, N61)
Netbooks (starting from July)
even some NAS's have it

with the exception of apple

 

[pr5owner]

There's plenty of info following a kernel panic, including a full dump you can run through GDB to see where exactly the panic occurred. You just need to know where to look for it.

When the OS is panicing, it starts dumping as much information as it can. A screen or console is the wrong place to do it, because the user can't have easy access to it.

If you had done any Unix work, you'd know this is how it goes. You want to bring the system back up first, then you want to troubleshoot. Logs/dumps are the best place for information.

The fact that you would use this against Macs shows how much you've yet to learn about Unix.

ok theres dumps and logs, right how do you access those if the computer continually reboots on startup and gives you the above message?

since most people spend their entire budget on an overpriced mac they don't have another computer or the parts to take the drive out and plug it in via USB-SATA adapters or docks.

with a windows bluescreen, the user can phone up tech support, repeat the message, tech support can then walk them through a fix

from this error you can see the nvidia driver is either corrupted or not installed correctly, reboot in safemode w/ networking and redownload the driver, if the user doesnt know, at least they can google this error

you say "Logs/dumps are the best place for information." is the average mac user supposed to know this? the avg mac user doesnt even know OSX is just a pretty gui ontop of freebsd

 

[Mal]

also the people are prone to abuse their laptop if they have a better warranty, OKAY, well Asus by default has
a 2 year global warranty
1 year accidental warranty
30 day ZERO bright dot (dead pixel) guarantee.

now according to your logic, shouldn't Asus be DEAD LAST with the most laptop failures?

I don't think you read his post very carefully. He wasn't saying that people with warranty's are more likely to abuse their laptops. He was saying that people who are more likely to abuse their laptops are also more likely to buy third-party, extended warranties. If you can't grasp that concept, don't belittle those who do.

He's right, it throws off the numbers. Whether that inordinately affects Apple laptops I don't know, but I do know that people are more likely to purchase an extended warranty if the machine is more expensive, because the replacement cost is higher and so a warranty makes more sense. Thus, since most of Asus's laptops are less expensive that Apple's, chances are more Apple owners by percentage buy the extended warranty from SquareTrade. It's entirely possible then, that the ratio of failures is off.

No way to tell how much, though, it simply means that SquareTrade's failure rates are not to be taken as definitive. They're a useful piece of data, but by itself, that data is not useful enough to make the claim it was supposed to be making in the original post.

your post has so much BS in it i dont even have the words to explain it.

You sure didn't explain it…

jW

 

[pr5owner]

I don't think you read his post very carefully. He wasn't saying that people with warranty's are more likely to abuse their laptops. He was saying that people who are more likely to abuse their laptops are also more likely to buy third-party, extended warranties. If you can't grasp that concept, don't belittle those who do.

he didnt read my post, Square trade is the largest warranty provider globally, they provide warranty services for manufactures themselves, if you take your acer or hp laptop in for service, it most likely will go to a square trade service center which is why ST can put out those numbers, they have the facilities globally so they see all the repairs regardless where the warranty was purchased or from whom

again, with Asus, they provide a 1 year accidental warranty for FREE, all laptops you buy from them come with it, it is not purchased as an extra. Asus should be dead last according to his logic.

@op
Hon Hai isnt the greatest manufacture , why would you say they are better than the rest if with no data or facts to back you up? because they have rights to use a shiny apple logo?

 

[linux2mac]

ffs.......

1080p internet streaming is not 1080p BD Quality, many people have told you that bitrate if FAR MORE IMPORTANT than just the resolution of the video.

you could encode a 1080p movie and have it 200MB in size and have it look like total ****, is that 1080p the same quality as a 20+ GB movie?

its the same as a 5 Minute song encoded at 32kbps vs 320kbps, both of them are 5 minutes, 1 is HIGHER QUALITY

also again....... show me proof that BD is dead

here is proof that its more alive than ever (this article was 2008)
http://www.cdrlabs.com/forums/sales-continues-outstrip-early-dvd-market-performance-t24407.html

this article is this year
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/04/07/blu-ray-sales-increase-nearly-70-in-q1-2010/

and another

http://www.techradar.com/news/video/blu-ray/blu-ray-sees-significant-sales-bounce-in-2010-683738

USB 3 cannot possibly be dead, nearly all new
Motherboards (180+ models on newegg have at least 2x USB3 ports, with some models coming out with ALL usb 3 and no USB 2)
Laptop (Asus has USB 3 laptops in Jan of this year, N61)
Netbooks (starting from July)
even some NAS's have it

with the exception of apple

OMG, are you serious? There is plenty info out there why BD will be passed over. Just check in on the Blu Ray thread in Mac Rumors. Even Ballmer and Co see the writing on the wall that BD will be "passed by."

http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/09/22/1416246/Xbox-Head-Proclaims-Blu-ray-Dead

Hmmm, bulky cables or Light Peak? Bulky cables or Light Peak? You decide after watching this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfGevFIVKw4

Now to get back on topic, the new MBA's are so amazing I would not let a couple of faulty logic boards deter me from buying one. I wish I could have seen the look on the faces of Dell/HP execs when SJ unveiled the future of laptops! Now I await the haters to jump in and say "it sucks because it has a slow C2D processor" when in reality, that is more than enough computing power for the majority of end users. I wouldn't recommend a Macbook Air for someone attempting to map the human genome.

 

[KnightWRX]

OMG, are you serious? There is plenty info out there why BD will be passed over.

Too bad that its adoption rate is already higher than DVD's was after the same length on the market and that they have passed the "niche" penetration figure into full stream mass-market adoption realm.

Blu-ray is pretty much mainstream today and continues to grow at an alarming pace. For purchases, it has destroyed digital downloads, achieving the same number of units in 2 months that downloads did in 12.

There's room for both, it's not an either or scenario. If I just want to watch a quick movie I head over to my cable provider's VOD channel and stream it. If I want to purchase a movie to own, Blu-ray it is. Both technologies have a place in the market, both will probably be successful.

Mac fans need to drop the black or white mentality in everything. As I like to say : "There can be only one!" made for a good movie, but it makes for a ****** consumer experience.

 

[linux2mac]

Mac fans need to drop the black or white mentality in everything. As I like to say : "There can be only one!" made for a good movie, but it makes for a ****** consumer experience.

I am no Mac fan. I go with what works. And right now that is a Mac and Apple products. If Banana Computer came out with better products I would ditch SJ and Co. and go buy Banana Computer products.

 

[pr5owner]

Now to get back on topic, the new MBA's are so amazing I would not let a couple of faulty logic boards deter me from buying one. I wish I could have seen the look on the faces of Dell/HP execs when SJ unveiled the future of laptops! Now I await the haters to jump in and say "it sucks because it has a slow C2D processor" when in reality, that is more than enough computing power for the majority of end users. I wouldn't recommend a Macbook Air for someone attempting to map the human genome.

i take it you didnt see my links indicating BD's success....

im sorry but a 1.4GHz C2D is not enough computing power for alot of things considering netbook cpus are faster.

sure it can browse the web and do emails chat here and there, twitter updates but thats it, just like netbooks.

not everyone buys a laptop just to show off at starbucks, some people actually need to get work DONE, hence why i got a G53JW with a quad core i7, i need to do video trans-coding and i need to do it on a mobile workstation. A single slow ass SSD isnt going to cut it, neither is that low power garbage processor.

can the mini display port even output audio? even if you have to go through an HDMI to MiniDP adapter? if not thats COMPLETELY USELESS, i know the first 13" MBP's cannot do audio over miniDP

 

[Mal]

i take it you didnt see my links indicating BD's success....

im sorry but a 1.4GHz C2D is not enough computing power for alot of things considering netbook cpus are faster.

sure it can browse the web and do emails chat here and there, twitter updates but thats it, just like netbooks.

not everyone buys a laptop just to show off at starbucks, some people actually need to get work DONE, hence why i got a G53JW with a quad core i7, i need to do video trans-coding and i need to do it on a mobile workstation. A single slow ass SSD isnt going to cut it, neither is that low power garbage processor.

can the mini display port even output audio? even if you have to go through an HDMI to MiniDP adapter? if not thats COMPLETELY USELESS, i know the first 13" MBP's cannot do audio over miniDP

Seems there's a lot you don't know about it. To answer your last question first, yes, Mini DisplayPort from the MacBook Air outputs audio, and works with any MiniDP-HDMI adaptor that also supports it (the third-party ones Apple sells in the Apple Stores support audio, as do many others you can find both in retail and online). That's been true for all models introduced since the beginning of this year.

Second, the new MacBook Air can handle a heck of a lot more than web browsing and email. iPhoto is faster on there than on my 13" MacBook with a 2.0GHz processor, and iMovie felt more responsive too. Photoshop runs smoothly, and so will most other programs that aren't at the very top end of CPU consumption. Is it for everyone? No. Obviously, it's not for you. But it's not underpowered either, and it's a lot faster than any netbook I've ever seen, and I've used a number of them.

jW

 

[wirelessmacuser]

I'm very happy with the customer service I've been receiving from my local Apple Store.

The down side is I'm now on my third MBA, since something continues to cause the displays to fill the screen with a series of colored stripes instead of the image of what I'm working on.

Yet that said, they've been very good about making themselves available to to confirm the issue and order a replacement. Perhaps this third one will be the charm...

 

[ImperialX]

I'm very happy with the customer service I've been receiving from my local Apple Store.

The down side is I'm now on my third MBA, since something continues to cause the displays to fill the screen with a series of colored stripes instead of the image of what I'm working on.

Yet that said, they've been very good about making themselves available to to confirm the issue and order a replacement. Perhaps this third one will be the charm...

I think those three MBAs are from the same batch.

 

[daniele.barone]

I'm very happy with the customer service I've been receiving from my local Apple Store.

The down side is I'm now on my third MBA, since something continues to cause the displays to fill the screen with a series of colored stripes instead of the image of what I'm working on.

Yet that said, they've been very good about making themselves available to to confirm the issue and order a replacement. Perhaps this third one will be the charm...

I have just bought the new MBA 13' and I had a similar problem. It happened one time. I have the following questions:

1) Do you suggest to ask for a replacement (as I said it happened just one time and I don't know how to reproduce the problem)?

2) Is it an hardware or a software problem? I mean, Will Apple able to fix it with a software update in the case such a problem will persist? or Will I be forced to replace my machine?

3) How much time I have to ask for a replacement (the 1 year warranty) ?

Thank you in advance for any suggestions, I will much appreciate that
Daniele
p.s. I never had any problems with my previous (5) laptops, and I was not expecting to have my first one with a Mac (after all the money I spent)

 

[wirelessmacuser]

I have just bought the new MBA 13' and I had a similar problem. It happened one time. I have the following questions:

1) Do you suggest to ask for a replacement.

I strongly suggest you call into AppleCare and report it. Or if you have a store nearby I would take it in. That's the fair thing to do for both Apple and yourself.

All those who are experiencing problems and not reporting them are handicapping the system.

It's been my experience that when Apple knows about an issue they are usually pretty good about addressing it. The key being... they must first know about it. Like any other company they rely on their customers to report issues in order for them to develop a strategy as to how to approach the problem.

In my case the first MBA I ordered became unusable after just seven days.

I took it into the local Apple store and was met with courtesy, a true concern, and immediate action. They ordered a replacement which arrived just two days later.

Now on day two of the second MBA (13") It's doing the same thing, yet worse and more frequently.

As soon as I finish this post which I'm writing on my very reliable 2010 MBP, I will be making the trek back to the Apple Store for another visit with the people at the Genius bar. I have made an appointment.

Fortunately, I've learned from recent experience, to expect problems. In addition, I have have more than one machine to use.

It's the only way to be sure you're not going to be left without a functioning computer.

Cheers...

 

[daniele.barone]

I strongly suggest you call into AppleCare and report it. Or if you have a store nearby I would take it in. That's the fair thing to do for both Apple and yourself.

All those who are experiencing problems and not reporting them are handicapping the system.

It's been my experience that when Apple knows about an issue they are usually pretty good about addressing it. The key being... they must first know about it. Like any other company they rely on their customers to report issues in order for them to develop a strategy as to how to approach the problem.

In my case the first MBA I ordered became unusable after just seven days.

I took it into the local Apple store and was met with courtesy, a true concern, and immediate action. They ordered a replacement which arrived just two days later.

Now on day two of the second MBA (13") It's doing the same thing, yet worse and more frequently.

As soon as I finish this post which I'm writing on my very reliable 2010 MBP, I will be making the trek back to the Apple Store for another visit with the people at the Genius bar. I have made an appointment.

Fortunately, I've learned from recent experience, to expect problems. In addition, I have have more than one machine to use.

It's the only way to be sure you're not going to be left without a functioning computer.

Cheers...

Thank you very much for your fast answer and suggestions. I made an appointment for tomorrow morning at 11 AM with the people at the genius bar. I will post their answer.
D

 

[tosoil]

he didnt read my post, Square trade is the largest warranty provider globally, they provide warranty services for manufactures themselves, if you take your acer or hp laptop in for service, it most likely will go to a square trade service center which is why ST can put out those numbers, they have the facilities globally so they see all the repairs regardless where the warranty was purchased or from whom

again, with Asus, they provide a 1 year accidental warranty for FREE, all laptops you buy from them come with it, it is not purchased as an extra. Asus should be dead last according to his logic.

@op
Hon Hai isnt the greatest manufacture , why would you say they are better than the rest if with no data or facts to back you up? because they have rights to use a shiny apple logo?

Thanks for the information on Square trade; I'm learning something today.

I think "Mal" explains much better than I do, but let me try again. Let us say there are two kinds of people: laptop abusers and non-abusers. Say there are only two laptops, Asus and Apple. For simplicity, let's assume that the ratio of abusers and non-abusers are identical for Asus buyers and for Apple buyers. Warranty for Asus is two years for free, but it's only one year for Apple. Again for simplicity, let's say both of the notebooks die exactly in two years. Asus abusers do not have to buy warranties (as it's already free), but Apple users have different story. Probably Apple abusers are more likely to buy warranties, but apple non-abusers are less likely to buy warranties, so let's say all the Apple abusers buy warranties, but no Apple non-abusers buy warranties. Thus, between year 1 and year 2, we must observe higher failure rate of Apple computer than that of Asus computer since the data is only from those who have warranties (note that the failure rate for Asus computer includes non-abusers and abusers, but the failure rate for Apple computer includes ONLY abusers).

Of course, I'm not saying that the data you provided implies that Apple computer is less likely to break down. I'm just saying that the data is kind of useless to see the real break-down rate. However, personally, seeing that there is only very tiny difference of the break-down rate in two years between Asus and Apple, I think that it's quite likely that Apple in fact has lower break-down rate.

But, seriously, "Mal" can explain much better than I do.

 

[pr5owner]

Seems there's a lot you don't know about it. To answer your last question first, yes, Mini DisplayPort from the MacBook Air outputs audio, and works with any MiniDP-HDMI adaptor that also supports it (the third-party ones Apple sells in the Apple Stores support audio, as do many others you can find both in retail and online). That's been true for all models introduced since the beginning of this year.

Second, the new MacBook Air can handle a heck of a lot more than web browsing and email. iPhoto is faster on there than on my 13" MacBook with a 2.0GHz processor, and iMovie felt more responsive too. Photoshop runs smoothly, and so will most other programs that aren't at the very top end of CPU consumption. Is it for everyone? No. Obviously, it's not for you. But it's not underpowered either, and it's a lot faster than any netbook I've ever seen, and I've used a number of them.

jW

straight from apple's website

"Note: *Audio support is only available for MacBook Pro 13/15/17-in. mid-2010 release; iMac 21.5/27-in. early-2010 release"

not all MB's support hdmi audio

also have you tried a sandforce controled SSD? try it in your macbook, your existing 2.0GHz MB will blow the MBA out of the water.

also if you buy a netbook you have $600+ left over, you could buy a 256GB REAL SSD that reads at over 355MB/s, throw that and 4GB of ram into the thing and it will be faster than anything apple has to offer in the price range.

the netbooks you used are probably stock with 1GB of ram and costs $289, the macbook air costs $999 for the lowest crippled model.

 

[pr5owner]

Thanks for the information on Square trade; I'm learning something today.

I think "Mal" explains much better than I do, but let me try again. Let us say there are two kinds of people: laptop abusers and non-abusers. Say there are only two laptops, Asus and Apple. For simplicity, let's assume that the ratio of abusers and non-abusers are identical for Asus buyers and for Apple buyers. Warranty for Asus is two years for free, but it's only one year for Apple. Again for simplicity, let's say both of the notebooks die exactly in two years. Asus abusers do not have to buy warranties (as it's already free), but Apple users have different story. Probably Apple abusers are more likely to buy warranties, but apple non-abusers are less likely to buy warranties, so let's say all the Apple abusers buy warranties, but no Apple non-abusers buy warranties. Thus, between year 1 and year 2, we must observe higher failure rate of Apple computer than that of Asus computer since the data is only from those who have warranties (note that the failure rate for Asus computer includes non-abusers and abusers, but the failure rate for Apple computer includes ONLY abusers).

Of course, I'm not saying that the data you provided implies that Apple computer is less likely to break down. I'm just saying that the data is kind of useless to see the real break-down rate. However, personally, seeing that there is only very tiny difference of the break-down rate in two years between Asus and Apple, I think that it's quite likely that Apple in fact has lower break-down rate.

But, seriously, "Mal" can explain much better than I do.

no, you dont get it, ANY laptops that go in for repair regardless of what original warranty came with it is repaired by squaretrade and recorded.

in or out of warranty, free or paid, its recorded because they provide the repair service instead of an inhouse operation. its cheaper for companies to use a third party for most things including tech support. (which is why all calls go to india most of the time)

 

[tosoil]

no, you dont get it, ANY laptops that go in for repair regardless of what original warranty came with it is repaired by squaretrade and recorded.

in or out of warranty, free or paid, its recorded because they provide the repair service instead of an inhouse operation. its cheaper for companies to use a third party for most things including tech support. (which is why all calls go to india most of the time)

When my laptop breaks down with a warranty, I send it straight to an authorized service center. When my laptop breaks down WITHOUT a warranty, I first check it myself if hard drive is broken. If so, I change the hard drive myself (or I could ask a friend if I don't know how to do so). If that's not the case, I'll probably stop by a local unauthorized service place (as it will probably be cheaper). If the local service place solves the problem, that's good. However, if not, I'll go to Apple and ask how much it would cost. If it costs too much, I'll just forget it and will buy a new Apple computer.

The data you provided will capture most of broken laptops WITH a warranty, but smaller number of broken laptops WITHOUT a warranty. And, as I argued previously, the laptops with a warranty is more likely to be owned by heavy users of a laptop (or, say, laptop abusers). Thus, the data will over-estimate the failure rate of the laptops with 1-year free warranty than that of the laptops with 2-years free warranty.

 

[daniele.barone]

I strongly suggest you call into AppleCare and report it. Or if you have a store nearby I would take it in. That's the fair thing to do for both Apple and yourself.

All those who are experiencing problems and not reporting them are handicapping the system.

It's been my experience that when Apple knows about an issue they are usually pretty good about addressing it. The key being... they must first know about it. Like any other company they rely on their customers to report issues in order for them to develop a strategy as to how to approach the problem.

In my case the first MBA I ordered became unusable after just seven days.

I took it into the local Apple store and was met with courtesy, a true concern, and immediate action. They ordered a replacement which arrived just two days later.

Now on day two of the second MBA (13") It's doing the same thing, yet worse and more frequently.

As soon as I finish this post which I'm writing on my very reliable 2010 MBP, I will be making the trek back to the Apple Store for another visit with the people at the Genius bar. I have made an appointment.

Fortunately, I've learned from recent experience, to expect problems. In addition, I have have more than one machine to use.

It's the only way to be sure you're not going to be left without a functioning computer.

Cheers...

Hi there
I went to the apple store and I "was (ALSO) met with courtesy, a true concern, and immediate action."

Andy the guy at Eaton Centre (Toronto) which help me out, was very good in supporting me and take care of my request altough my face was something betewen and .

He was not aware of the prolem I described to him (horizontal lines etc.), then he found the apple news about the coming update (where they say that they have isoltated the problem and they are going to fix with a software update).

I explicity said that there are (mac) rumors that the problem could be also hardware and an update would not work.

He was very gentle and answered to me that If I was not happy (as a costumer) I can go for a replacement.

This what I did. I cannot test the new machine because since I have not enough credit on my credit card (I just arrived from a trip and the money they gave me back takes a while to be available as credit) I was not able to pay the new purchase.

Anyway, I was so sad to leave the apple store without my new mac... it is a wonderful machine...

BUT I must say that Andy did everything to help me out and support me; therefore, in my case, I should say great customer service!!!

 

[linux2mac]

i take it you didnt see my links indicating BD's success....

Not necessary.

When Nextflix started streaming HD video it was at 720p, now they are offering 1080p streaming with 5.1 sound. There is also Roku Box and Vudu Box HDX streaming at 1080p now. BD and HDX display the same 24fps.

http://www.home-theater-systems-advice.com/VUDU-1080p-HD-movie.html

So if I can get a 1080p, 24fps, and 5.1 sound stream, why do I need a collection of discs taking up desk and shelf space?

im sorry but a 1.4GHz C2D is not enough computing power for alot of things considering netbook cpus are faster.

sure it can browse the web and do emails chat here and there, twitter updates but thats it, just like netbooks.

Watch the 11 inch "wimpy, wimpy" 1.4GHz C2D smoke a 2.66GHz i7 MacBook Pro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k139Ap6T7cE

After seeing that demo it is obvious that the Air is no netbook. How did Steve put it? "Netbooks aren't better than anything, They're just cheap laptops." And how right he is.

not everyone buys a laptop just to show off at starbucks...

Interesting perception. First, I hate Starbucks coffee. Second, the reason I want to trade my 13"MBP in for the MBA is for mobility, not to show off. I am on the road at least two weeks out of every month. It would be a secondary machine as I would do my heavy lifting with my iMac.

A single slow ass SSD isnt going to cut it, neither is that low power garbage processor.

I am not even going to list all the links to benchmarks out there already. The MBA 1.86GHz is already slightly faster than my 2.4GHz 13"MBP. Considering the smaller foot print of the MBA, I would rather take that through airport security than my 13" MBP (huge to me now that the Air is out).

 

[KnightWRX]

Not necessary.

When Nextflix started streaming HD video it was at 720p, now they are offering 1080p streaming with 5.1 sound. There is also Roku Box and Vudu Box HDX streaming at 1080p now. BD and HDX display the same 24fps.

http://www.home-theater-systems-advice.com/VUDU-1080p-HD-movie.html

So if I can get a 1080p, 24fps, and 5.1 sound stream, why do I need a collection of discs taking up desk and shelf space?

Ugh, Bitrate and bandwidth concerns.

Streaming a blu-ray quality 1080p, 24fps, 5.1 sound stream is not something I can do more than once or twice in a month because of my ISP's limit on downloads/uploads. Not to mention my 30 mbps connection will not be able to sustain such massive transfer rate over the period of a movie stream.

Seriously, people thinking streaming is "it" really don't know squat about current Internet infrastructures and the actual quality of a Blu-ray encode.

 

[wirelessmacuser]

the new MBA's are so amazing I would not let a couple of faulty logic boards deter me from buying one.

"A couple of faulty boards? ... Please post a link to Prove Your Claim!

I'm on my second faulty (confirmed by the genius bar) MBA.

I have four friends with the same problem... a couple of boards you say?

Sounds like a wild guess to me.

Or perhaps someone has their head in the sand?

 

[linux2mac]

"A couple of faulty boards? ... Please post a link to Prove Your Claim!

I'm on my second faulty (confirmed by the genius bar) MBA.

I have four friends with the same problem... a couple of boards you say?

Sounds like a wild guess to me.

Or perhaps someone has their head in the sand?

I am sorry to hear about your MBA troubles. I trust that your local Apple Store will make it right. I by all means did not mean to imply there were only two MBA's in the entire world with faulty logic boards. Let me re-phrase. I would not let the current issue of faulty logic boards deter me from buying a new MBA. I have seen the benchmarks and played with them a few times at a couple of Apple Stores in different cities. What an amazing machine! Anyways, I hope that Apple takes care of you promptly.

Gonna be snow soon where I am from.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

Maybe i'll let some time go by for now.