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I was waiting to get a MacBook Pro, but I went ahead and got an HP Envy 15...

Anti-glare 1920x1080 Display + 6GB DDR3 RAM + Dual SSDs + Mobile Core i7-720QM + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830 for ~$3000 (with a $450-off coupon)

Even if you COULD get that with a MBP, it'd cost $10,000!!!

Not a bad machine at all, although with the i7-720QM, the battery life will be atrocious. Still, if you're looking for pro power in a portable form factor, what you described is pretty awesome.
 
I had a similar concern and it's been addressed fairly well here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/888129/ Basically, it seems too much of a nuisance for what you're paying, but if the SSD has garbage collection, it may be worth it.

I wonder if Apple could do a "one more thing" at the end of their iPhone presentation on Thursday...

You can get around the lack of TRIM, although it's a pain in the butt. (Image your drive, format, restore.)

Non-TRIMed performance is atrocious by SSD standards, but relative to your usual laptop HD, it's OK.
 
Hi,

I can't possibly surf the net on anything less than a Macbook Pro i7.

s.


No i'm going to sound like a jerk but really... Some of us are actually waiting for the new CPUs. Obviously the average user doesn't care what CPU his or her can do aside from facebook and email but maybe here on macrumors people do care.
 
Nice. I just screwed up my mbp .... Spilt damn can of beer on it. Went to apple store to see bout repair n guy said be about $1200:mad::mad::eek:


So I'm just gonna stick it out n wait for new one. Nothing wrong cept keyboard all :mad: up. Funny he told me I can post on bay and at least get few $$$$$ for it. Right now just got a keyboard plugged in n its getting me hru
Damn I'm PO'd. I never mess my stuff up
 
Haha, YES! I totally agree. Of course, all the products need an update, but it hasn't even been a year for the MacBook Pros and people are complaining. It has been well over a year since the last Mac Pro update.

The last Mac Pro update introduced Nehalem architecture -- a huge leap forward. By contrast, the last MacBook Pro update was a small jump up in C2D processor speed. Thus, time isn't the only factor here. That said, both lineups need CPU updates in a bad way. The 27" iMac kicks the Mac Pro's butt at the moment, which is sort of sad.
 
Nice. I just screwed up my mbp .... Spilt damn can of beer on it. Went to apple store to see bout repair n guy said be about $1200:mad::mad::eek:


So I'm just gonna stick it out n wait for new one. Nothing wrong cept keyboard all :mad: up. Funny he told me I can post on bay and at least get few $$$$$ for it. Right now just got a keyboard plugged in n its getting me hru
Damn I'm PO'd. I never mess my stuff up

DIY fool.
 
You can get around the lack of TRIM, although it's a pain in the butt. (Image your drive, format, restore.)

Non-TRIMed performance is atrocious by SSD standards, but relative to your usual laptop HD, it's OK.

With my Intel 160 in the i7 desktop, and Samsung 128 in my multi-touch tablet - I'm happy to be running the other, more popular x64 OS. The one that does have TRIM support.

;)
 
With my Intel 160 in the i7 desktop, and 128 in my multi-touch tablet - I'm happy to be running the other popular x64 OS. The one that does have TRIM support.

;)

I envy you. Whenever Intel releases their third-gen M series later this year, I'm going to grab a 160.
 
Apple doesn't make the panels, so as far as I know it'll be the panel makers that introduce a display that can show more than 6 or 8bits.

I couldn't care less about the colors displayed on the laptop, NO ONE that claims to be doing color critical works should be doing it on a laptop screen.

Well actually I claim it.
I'm an artist and I would like to be able to at least see a reasonable representation of true colors while i am working on projects on my lap top.
I might plug in the display for critical and large work but I do a lot of stuff away from my studio and seeing a hot red look orange is bloody(!) annoying. I also couldn't care less who makes the panel. What's the big deal getting it done?
 
I envy you. Whenever Intel releases their third-gen M series later this year, I'm going to grab a 160.

The i7 desktop with a good SSD is scary fast. The first clue is when you log in - and it's just a few seconds. Second clue is when you drag and drop a 100 MB file - and it happens so quickly that there's no "Copying..." dialogue.

Booting - wow. 20 to 30 seconds after the BIOS hands over to the OS you have the password prompt. (I phrase it that way because my BIOS POST takes longer than the x64 Windows 7 boot.) No more "go to the bathroom and get a cup of coffee" reboots.
 
The i7 desktop with a good SSD is scary fast. The first clue is when you log in - and it's just a few seconds. Second clue is when you drag and drop a 100 MB file - and it happens so quickly that there's no "Copying..." dialogue.

Booting - wow. 20 to 30 seconds after the BIOS hands over to the OS you have the password prompt. (I phrase it that way because my BIOS POST takes longer than the x64 Windows 7 boot.) No more "go to the bathroom and get a cup of coffee" reboots.

Yeah, everything I've read says it's heaven. I'm assuming the mid-level 15" MBP will be either the 2.4 i5 or the 2.13 i7 (it might be the 2.0 i7, but I hope not -- that's a big drop...not that they were afraid to do that with the Nehalem Mac Pros). So anyway, regardless of what they choose, I'm going with 8 gigs of RAM and the SSD. This should pretty much blow away my stock 2.4 Ghz Penryn with 4 gigs -- which just doesn't cut it for heavy virtualization.
 
HP Envy 15 vs. MBP

Not a bad machine at all, although with the i7-720QM, the battery life will be atrocious. Still, if you're looking for pro power in a portable form factor, what you described is pretty awesome.

With the 9-cell "slice" battery on it (ugly plastic slab that you attach to the bottom of it), I get about 4-5 hours away from the mains.

Not great, but I do some pretty heavy audio processing, and it absolutely rips through everything I've thrown at it.

Hopefully, Apple sees this and updates the MBP accordingly...
 
umm 640 GB They only have a 5400 RPM speed:confused:
What about 8GB Standard?
Do you think we will see a Ati 5830 1GB GDDR3 video card?
This can't come soon enough!!

If the 640GB drive is the WD drive, then the RPMs are fast enough for most mainline applications. (Look at the review on tomshardware.com.) Also, the drive has excellent performance per watt, i.e. it provides very good performance without draining your battery, and it has a lot of storage to boot!
 
The odds of mbps being updated in April are zero. The iPad 3G ships later in April and Apple will not let anything focus away from that. I predict the update will happen in early June. In Oct - Nov 2010 the mbps will again receive a minor refresh (bumping up the miminum specs) in time for the holidays.

I agree. I can envision Apple beginning to receive shipments sometime in May, but I don't think there will be an update until June.
 
Well actually I claim it.
I'm an artist and I would like to be able to at least see a reasonable representation of true colors while i am working on projects on my lap top.
I might plug in the display for critical and large work but I do a lot of stuff away from my studio and seeing a hot red look orange is bloody(!) annoying. I also couldn't care less who makes the panel. What's the big deal getting it done?

Well, like you said, you wouldn't do critical work on a laptop display. And even while working away from the studio, I am sure you'll do a final look on your much better, higher bit depth display.

Most users are with you, we'd love to have a 10-14 bit display on our pro lappies too. We just have to wait for the display manufacturers.
 
I think the update will be next week :D

my theory

By stretching the delivery of the Ipad for Europe. they create a window for other more expensive releases like the MBP or MP and Air.
Apple products in Europe are 25- 30% more expensive than in the USA. Some can simply not afford an new MBP, Ipad and Iphone at the same time, and they already bought the Imac.
but end of april, begin of may. people get their holiday bonus, that they can use to finance the new MBP.
Because, and thats the theory: this summer the World Championship Soccer in South Africa take place. Most people stay home in june and july this year, to see their country play in the tournament They go not on holiday and stay home. Holiday bookings are not great in my country and also in others like Spain for instance, have decreasing bookings. This only happens once in the four years and is very important for big European countries, this is also traditionally a big boost for multimedia sales. because people stay at home and watch the footy game on their new LCD's or Ipad/Iphone.

So my schedule

April/may: buy MBP 15" = well spend holiday bonus not going abroad.

May/june: buy Ipad = have money left, because not going abroad.

June/july: Buy new Iphone, because worldwide release. this is the real big thing for apple not the Ipad, they have only sold 300K Ipads iin the US, the first weekend.
 
so how does a Hong Kong/ Taiwanese newspaper source have any more detailed information than we do? Unless a part of the MBP is supplied by a Taiwanese/Chinese company, I'll believe that they are speculating as much as us.
 
Some time between this Tuesday and next

This is actually a perfect time to announce MBP updates. I say today (Tuesday here in Thailand). Or Thursday "one more thing". Latest next tues.
 
I hope I get paid for this. :p

First of all, Apple Daily is a Hong Kong newspaper, though it's quoting reports from Taiwan sources.

Notes of interests from the report:
....
6. MBPs will have 640GB HDDs or 248GB SSDs ....

The source may be correct about general details, but the latter number appears to be wrong. To my knowledge, SSDs come in 128GB and 256GB but not 248GB.

Apart from a release date of April, there is nothing new here. I still doubt the accuracy of this report. I believe Apple will delay the update until the iPad is shipping internationally and the hype over the new product has had sufficient time. The iPad is creating one purchasing wave now and an update in (early) June would create another purchasing wave just as the iPad hype and initial sales recede.
 
Nice. I just screwed up my mbp .... Spilt damn can of beer on it. Went to apple store to see bout repair n guy said be about $1200:mad::mad::eek:


So I'm just gonna stick it out n wait for new one. Nothing wrong cept keyboard all :mad: up. Funny he told me I can post on bay and at least get few $$$$$ for it. Right now just got a keyboard plugged in n its getting me hru
Damn I'm PO'd. I never mess my stuff up


But will it blend?
 
3D graphics boost is not going to happen if Intel's GMA IGP is all that is included on the MBA. I certainly hope the MBA gets marketed as a premium/luxury device again. I want BTO options back. I think with the iPad handling the secondary computing and lightweight entertainment role, the MBA can be repositioned as the premium device rather than trying to limit component upgrades to save on costs allowing the price to be dropped again.

The graphics are the problem/deal-breaker for me on this next round of Mac notebook updates. Assuming Apple uses Arrandale, and we know they cannot use Nvidia chipset/GPU combo with Arrandale, what do they do with the MBA, Mac mini, MB, and 13" MBP, and even low-end 15" MBP? Before we had Nvidia and 9400m across the board, now how does Apple tackle the Intel GMA IGP dilemma? I sure would feel stuck if all we get is Intel's GMA IGP... I couldn't bring myself to buy a computer that only had Intel's GMA IGP for graphics. I am hopeful for something even like the Nvidia 310m. It would be a 25% boost over the 9400m, so we wouldn't be going backwards. In addition, the system memory wouldn't be shared out. I know people are wanting a high-end ATI card like 5870 or even less like a 5830, but I see the Nvidia 330 GT making its way into the MBPs.

I sure wish we would have read some specifics like brands of graphics and other components being used. I don't see a 500+ GB drive making its way into an MBA.

From a technological standpoint, I would prefer an ATI graphical solution; however, this would mean that Apple would have to continue using the Log Off option to change graphics chips (integrated/discrete), if that is even possible with ATI. In light of NVidia's Optimus technology, I would bet that Apple will stick with NVidia for easier switching and better battery life. I also think Apple will likely use Intel's IGP because I doubt Apple will spend the extra few dollars to use discrete graphics across the lineup. :( I hope I am wrong.
 
I hope these get updated soon. My school district's replacing all the teacher computers w/ laptops this summer and would like the latest & greatest for them. Here are some specs I'd like to see (some is pure hope & I don't see happening so don't flame me):
-i3, i5 and i7 procs standard
These are a given

-4+ GB RAM standard
Very likely, IMO.

-320+ GB Hard drive standard across the board w/ 256+ GB SSD option
Think larger 5400 RPM hard drive, e.g. 500GB or 640GB.:)

-Blu-Ray Burner (I know, not gonna happen)
Nope.

-USB 3.0 (again, probably not)
Nope.

-eSATA (again, not gonna happen)
Nope.

-Both internal & external SATA bumped to 6.0 (again, not gonna happen)
Nope.

-Better screen resolutions
No thanks, I prefer not to squint.

These I want Apple to keep:
-SD card slot on MacBook & all MacBook Pro except 17" (keep the expresscard)
Why keep the SD card slot? There is a new SD standard coming and then this slot will be outdated. The ExpressCard slot allows the user to upgrade the card reader and even use non-SD cards, e.g., CF cards. An ExpressCard slot offers a lot more flexibility for pros(umers).

-Firewire 800 on at least MBPs
Across the lineup, please.

If/when Apple releases a 17" MBP w/ an i7, I might get it depending on specs.

You will be waiting awhile, if you are waiting on the above.
 
YES. This needs to happen, many PC notebooks have 1900x1200 15" screens, it's pathetic that Apple's "pro" 15" MBP does not.

Have you ever used one? The text on a 1900 x 1200 on a 15" screen strains my eyes. A higher resolution is not necessarily better.
 
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