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Had I mentioned the stupidly low numbers of my G4 I'm sure you wouldn't have said "your machine sucks." I say "Don't pick favorites, Mac Fanboi."
 
can someone break this information down for someone who doesnt understand anything being said so far. upgrade for dummies?

i just recently had my macbook destroyed by liquid damage and im looking to get the new macbook pro 13inch. I use it for web browsing, some photoshopping, and movies. would it benefit me to wait on this update, (i am looking to get something as soon as possible, but will wait if it benefits me). Also if i do wait for the upgrades to be released will the current 13 inch macbook pro's be on sale in the refurbished section...thanks!
 
can someone break this information down for someone who doesnt understand anything being said so far. upgrade for dummies?

i just recently had my macbook destroyed by liquid damage and im looking to get the new macbook pro 13inch. I use it for web browsing, some photoshopping, and movies. would it benefit me to wait on this update, (i am looking to get something as soon as possible, but will wait if it benefits me). Also if i do wait for the upgrades to be released will the current 13 inch macbook pro's be on sale in the refurbished section...thanks!

You are able to write and I therefore gather, though I might be wrong, that you're able to read as well.

Exactly what part of the hundreds of answers to questions exactly or at least very similar to yours, is it you did not understand when reading it?
 
Also if i do wait for the upgrades to be released will the current 13 inch macbook pro's be on sale in the refurbished section...thanks!

if there is an update in the line then i would assume the current 13" would have a price drop but not necessarily be in the Refurbished section if the laptops themselves are still actually new though there is a new product line
 
Had I mentioned the stupidly low numbers of my G4 I'm sure you wouldn't have said "your machine sucks." I say "Don't pick favorites, Mac Fanboi."

Mac fanboi? I think not.

Your machine doesn't suck because its a windows box, it sucks because the hardware is OLD.

And you're doing CAD work with 1.75GB of RAM?

Lulz....
 
I love technology, and I also hate technology.

I spent ~$2000 on my 15" uMBP about 6 months ago. Now the upcoming Core i7s will kick the living daylights out of it. So what? Even if I bought the Core i7s, it will still be "outdated" in a few months.

It's not what you have, it's what you do with what you have. Technology changes rapidly, get over it.
 
I love technology, and I also hate technology.

I spent ~$2000 on my 15" uMBP about 6 months ago. Now the upcoming Core i7s will kick the living daylights out of it. So what? Even if I bought the Core i7s, it will still be "outdated" in a few months.

It's not what you have, it's what you do with what you have. Technology changes rapidly, get over it.
I'd look at where Sandy Bridge is aiming right now and the timeline. It's not just a few months. Clarksfield/Lynnfield is 45 nm but here to stay and information about Westmere has been around for ages. Westmere is just a process shrink of Nehalem to be honest.

You're going to be looking at 2011 for anything new. Clock speed boosts is all that you're looking at in 2010. Core 2 is just getting old. It has been out since 2006.
 
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/212950

Btw, this took 10 minutes on a netbook to do, I checked myself to see, and I didn't post it because I just wanted to see how easy it would be to fake. If I had bothered to do any hacks into chameleon, it would look exactly real. Digging though the options was kinda neat also. You realize it's listing DDR3 1067 on a netbook... which we know is totally bogus.. It was easy to change the settings for this too. The point of this is that, it's pretty easy to fake a macbook pro, provided that you hackintosh and add all the configuration info since the smc etc is all emulated.

That said, I do hope we see a new macbook soon, this is certainly like a controlled leak in the sense it allows plausible deniability. ie Apple can always claim it was faked etc, even if it is real.

I've said this literally 5 times with no response: The FSB on all the obvious forges are no where near the 4.8 GHz of the alleged 'leak'. Therefore, I do not believe the FSB can be manipulated. Again (5x), glad to see someone prove this wrong...
 
Just by curiosity, how did you manage to do it without getting the "inaccurate" warning ?

Thanks,
Tex

i think he has executed geekbanch after faking the information about his hardware using smbios.plist on his hackbook. This can be done easily.

It seems that the innacurate warning is due to the wrong checksum you send with the test results. You should know the hashing algorithm they use and try to make a checksum starting from your fake information. i think nothing worth your time, actually.
 
It's not what you have, it's what you do with what you have. Technology changes rapidly, get over it.

Yep, that's why I still have my late 2007 iMac - it does everything I want so I feel no compulsion to upgrade it. Sure, it takes longer than I'd like to process movies with Handbrake, but I don't see myself replacing it for another couple years.

I want a new MBP not to replace my iMac but to have a computer I can take with me to work, friends' houses and family's houses. The portability aspect of the MBP will enable me to do things I current can't with my iMac. Plus it'd be nice to browse MacRumors while watching TV in the other room. :)

Like Sheryl Crow sings, "It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you have".
 
i think he has executed geekbanch after faking the information about his hardware using smbios.plist on his hackbook. This can be done easily.

It seems that the innacurate warning is due to the wrong checksum you send with the test results. You should know the hashing algorithm they use and try to make a checksum starting from your fake information. i think nothing worth your time, actually.
Ah ok I see. He was faking his hardware, I was faking the network communcation between the software and the server :) Yes it's not worth the time but I was just interested in playing around.

Anyway, I hope the original result was real and that we'll see the MBPs soon.

cheers,
Tex
 
I love technology, and I also hate technology.

I spent ~$2000 on my 15" uMBP about 6 months ago. Now the upcoming Core i7s will kick the living daylights out of it. So what? Even if I bought the Core i7s, it will still be "outdated" in a few months.

It's not what you have, it's what you do with what you have. Technology changes rapidly, get over it.

Meh... It's looking like Apple is only going to use the dual core Core i7 processors, and likely not going to use the Quad Core Core i7 processors. I would not be too upset if I was you. It appears that these next MBP will just be another generation of dual core laptop. Plus, the processors they are going with have the integrated Intel GPU inside it. Ask yourself this, "Has Intel ever made a decent GPU?" Be happy with your $2000 MBP from 6 months ago. The only additions to the new ones are hyperthreading, and a sucktastic intergrated Intel GPU.
 
Meh... It's looking like Apple is only going to use the dual core Core i7 processors, and likely not going to use the Quad Core Core i7 processors. I would not be too upset if I was you. It appears that these next MBP will just be another generation of dual core laptop. Plus, the processors they are going with have the integrated Intel GPU inside it. Ask yourself this, "Has Intel ever made a decent GPU?" Be happy with your $2000 MBP from 6 months ago. The only additions to the new ones are hyperthreading, and a sucktastic intergrated Intel GPU.

You think a $2000 laptop will have a integrated GPU? :confused:

And the 9400M is about as fast as the one Intel has btw, just a little bit slower ;)

But Apple should make it possible to switch between GPU's in the operating system like Sony laptops can do in Windows.
 
Ah ok I see. He was faking his hardware, I was faking the network communcation between the software and the server :) Yes it's not worth the time but I was just interested in playing around.

Anyway, I hope the original result was real and that we'll see the MBPs soon.

cheers,
Tex

i hope so too! i'm looking forward to putting my geek hands on the arrendale MBP.

cheers!
 
I've said this literally 5 times with no response: The FSB on all the obvious forges are no where near the 4.8 GHz of the alleged 'leak'. Therefore, I do not believe the FSB can be manipulated. Again (5x), glad to see someone prove this wrong...
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The Arrandale processors contains two die in on package. The actual CPU and the northbridge which has the memory controller and graphics. The processor communicates internally with the CPU and northbrige with QPI. The speed of the QPI is 4.8GT/s (Gigatranfers per second). Thats why Geekbench thinks its 4.8GHz. Geekbench doesn't knows it not a FSB but it can still get its speed and simply calls it FSB.

As I already stated the processor can't be faked. Here is the Geekbench result of a real Mac Pro. Look at the FSB. It says 5.87GHz when what it really is referring to is the QPI of 5.86GT/s.
 
Future 13"

$1200 - 2.13GHz Core i3-350M, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 3MB L3, 1066 FSB
Intel Integrated Graphics

$1500 - 2.26GHz Core i3-350M, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 3MB L3, 1066 FSB
Intel Integrated Graphics

Future 15"

$1700 - 2.26GHz Core i3-350M, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 3MB L3, 1066 FSB
Intel Integrated Graphics

$2000 - 2.40GHz Core i5-520M, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 3MB L3, 1066 FSB
Intel Integrated Graphics + NVIDIA Optimus + NVIDIA Discrete Graphics

$2300 - 2.53GHz Core i5-540M, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 3MB L3, 1066 FSB
Intel Integrated Graphics + NVIDIA Optimus + NVIDIA Discrete Graphics

$2600 - 2.66GHz Core i7-620M, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 4MB L3, 1066 FSB
Intel Integrated Graphics + NVIDIA Optimus + NVIDIA Discrete Graphics

Future 17"

$2500 - 2.53GHz Core i5-540M, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 3MB L3, 1066 FSB
Intel Integrated Graphics + NVIDIA Optimus + NVIDIA Discrete Graphics

$2800 - 2.66GHz Core i7-620M, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 4MB L3, 1066 FSB
Intel Integrated Graphics + NVIDIA Optimus + NVIDIA Discrete Graphics

No Clarksfield (4 Cores, 8 Threads). No ATI Graphics.

Wouldn't Intel integrated graphics perform worse than the nvidia 9400m currently in $999 macbooks? I seriously doubt any of the pros will use only the intel graphics.
 
i hope so too! i'm looking forward to putting my geek hands on the arrendale MBP.

cheers!

ME TOO!
My 867 G4 Died last week:(
So Not only will i get the
17 Inch MacBook Pro Intel core I7 processor 620@2.26 Ghz
8GB Ram
500 GB HD
Ati 5630 512 MB GDDR3
but also a 21.5 Inch iMac 3.06 Ghz 8GB 1TB Ati 4670 256 Mb GDDR3
:apple:ROCKS
 
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The Arrandale processors contains two die in on package. The actual CPU and the northbridge which has the memory controller and graphics. The processor communicates internally with the CPU and northbrige with QPI. The speed of the QPI is 4.8GT/s (Gigatranfers per second). Thats why Geekbench thinks its 4.8GHz. Geekbench doesn't knows it not a FSB but it can still get its speed and simply calls it FSB.

As I already stated the processor can't be faked. Here is the Geekbench result of a real Mac Pro. Look at the FSB. It says 5.87GHz when what it really is referring to is the QPI of 5.86GT/s.

thanks heaps for clearing that up for us :) was wondering why that was there but figured it was something wrong because there is no FSB in these chips anymore! ;)
 
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The Arrandale processors contains two die in on package. The actual CPU and the northbridge which has the memory controller and graphics. The processor communicates internally with the CPU and northbrige with QPI. The speed of the QPI is 4.8GT/s (Gigatranfers per second). Thats why Geekbench thinks its 4.8GHz. Geekbench doesn't knows it not a FSB but it can still get its speed and simply calls it FSB.

As I already stated the processor can't be faked. Here is the Geekbench result of a real Mac Pro. Look at the FSB. It says 5.87GHz when what it really is referring to is the QPI of 5.86GT/s.

Could you reflect this in a Batman & Robin comic strip?


jk. Thank you.

Note to self: users seem to respond to giant pictures.
 
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