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coolbreeze said:
Just wait forever. Once you are in a nursing home, you can finally enjoy a computer purchase. It'll be worth it. Wait.
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Nah, there's definitely more to it than that, buddy. Cost vs. next gen processor power vs. current Mac setup. I bet you wish it were that simple, but it isn't.
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OneMike said:
The question should be, do you need now. If so buy, if not, wait.
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Defining "need" is too vague. Rendering videos may be slow on a 13" dual core, but is it worth the 2.8K price to bump up to 15". It's not so cut and dry. The next gen processor might be worth the wait.
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KensaiMage said:
Cannonlake will bring big changes, not Coffeelake.
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CoffeeLake is the mobile version of CannonLake, and is a refinement of Kaby. Will be interesting to see how much better it is.
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Avieshek said:
I see, what you did there.
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Redesigned MacBooks & iMacs are slated for next year, i.e. 2018.
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MacBook Pros? And are you talking about the physical design of the machine?
 
dan9700 said:
Ppl stop moaning saying do i wait till next year etc, things will always get better and u could always be waiting for next one so just buy it now and enjoy it, its like saying so i wait and buy the iphone 8 or wait another year for 9 lol more to the point if they haven't fixed the popping sound from screen/hindge and keyboard sticking then ill be angry
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triton100 said:
Get both. The 2017 now and then sell it when the new one comes out and get that one. I buy a new laptop every year.
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I very well could. However I like to keep all of my products, both for security purposes and for my collection. Dropping over 6K over 2 years is quite a bit for a 20% CPU increase. Not something I can't do, but something I might not want to do. Just trying to make the best decision. Though I appreciate your idea. It's a pretty good one.
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KSB said:
I'm a bit torn about the current lineup of macbook pro's, have an high end 2012 version and compared todays version, it's about a 30% difference of cpu power.

In regards to coffeelake, am I right in assuming that this will maybe the first mobile CPU with 6 cores, meaning that we could see a 2018 Macbook Pro with 6cores?
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That is a possibility, yes. I will probably end up waiting it out.
 
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Santabean2000 said:
No Mac mini. Boooooo
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Good news is there might be a mac mini pro. Think about it.

Entry level mac pro, is a new mac mini, the mini is modular. They are stackable work together. it's not a new idea and is suggested by the design of superdrive and time machines add ons.
 
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KSB said:
I'm a bit torn about the current lineup of macbook pro's, have an high end 2012 version and compared todays version, it's about a 30% difference of cpu power.

In regards to coffeelake, am I right in assuming that this will maybe the first mobile CPU with 6 cores, meaning that we could see a 2018 Macbook Pro with 6cores?
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I'm in the same boat. I have a MacBook Pro 15", i7, 16GB and 1TB SSD installed.

I know the new ones are faster with a better screen etc, but I love the magsafe and use the other ports all the time.
 
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SteveNoJobs said:
You can get a DELL XPS 15 with a Quad core i5 and a GTX 1050 for the entry 13" Model... kinda sad
better keep buying those overpriced glued fancy machines :)
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That's my plan - my 2015 MBP trackpad is acting up - not yet sure h/w or s/w issue but if it becomes flakier, the XPS 15 is quite awesome - it has not touch bar and that wins my vote Windows 10 notwithstanding.
 
slimothy said:
Nah, there's definitely more to it than that, buddy. Cost vs. next gen processor power vs. current Mac setup. I bet you wish it were that simple, but it isn't.
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Defining "need" is too vague. Rendering videos may be slow on a 13" dual core, but is it worth the 2.8K price to bump up to 15". It's not so cut and dry. The next gen processor might be worth the wait.
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CoffeeLake is the mobile version of CannonLake, and is a refinement of Kaby. Will be interesting to see how much better it is.
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Coffee Lake is a further process tweak of Kaby Lake (itself a process tweak to Skylake). Cannon Lake will be on a 10 nm platform meaning Intel can either boost the battery life or the power (or a bit of both). However, in 2018, Cannon Lake will only release in 5 W and low end 15 W versions.

To the wider point about waiting to buy - there is never a perfect time to buy, but there are sweet spots. Examples are the late MB 2008 models (introduction of multitouch pad, upgradable/replaceable battery) and the 2013 models (AC wifi, decent retina performance, super-long battery life, increased SSD speeds). I have a feeling that the next gen Coffee Lake models will be the next sweet spot as it will be on a mature platform (3rd iteration of the 2016 design) and the first to include extra cores on the CPU, HDR displays and HDMI 2.0 (via dongle, of course!).
 
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I checked the store availablity on higher end CPU and 1 TB SSD on the MBP 15" and looks like anything out of stock config is an order or avail later in June.
 
PSA to anyone who is looking to get it in store. Custom configuration are also in stores in limited stock. It doesn't show up on the online store, but I just bought the 3.1ghz/1tb option for the 15" MBP.
 
I have a late 2012 iMac 2.9 i5 21.5". Use it now mainly for Photos for the organisation, have my iTunes as well but now mainly use steaming.

It's nice to have, but for our use seem to use less and less.

We have iPads and I have a 7 plus that I use a lot now to for general browsing.

Don't think I'd ever not have one but wondering if it'd time to upgrade. Seems to be a little slow on Photos now.

I was surprised when I checked my model that it was a late 2012 actually.

Or maybe I should get a refurbished or 2nd hand more recent? Or do you think this is still fast enough?

Thanks
 
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Coffee Lake is a further process tweak of Kaby Lake (itself a process tweak to Skylake). Cannon Lake will be on a 10 nm platform meaning Intel can either boost the battery life or the power (or a bit of both). However, in 2018, Cannon Lake will only release in 5 W and low end 15 W versions.

To the wider point about waiting to buy - there is never a perfect time to buy, but there are sweet spots. Examples are the late MB 2008 models (introduction of multitouch pad, upgradable/replaceable battery) and the 2013 models (AC wifi, decent retina performance, super-long battery life, increased SSD speeds). I have a feeling that the next gen Coffee Lake models will be the next sweet spot as it will be on a mature platform (3rd iteration of the 2016 design) and the first to include extra cores on the CPU, HDR displays and HDMI 2.0 (via dongle, of course!).
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I'm starting to wonder if now is actually the sweet spot. Do you think MBP will get a full redesign too? That would make it the sweet spot, IMO.
 
Brookzy said:
The choice of base model configurations in the iMacs is completely bizarre in my opinion: there isn't a stock model with more than 8GB of RAM.
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For many people not doing pro graphics, pro audio or running multiple virtual machines, 8GB is actually plenty.

Plus, the 5k iMac (which is the one pros are going to go for) has (easily) user upgradeable RAM, via a little hatch in the back, and comes with 2 empty sockets. Buy the 8GB model, then add a pair of 8GB modules from Crucial/Kingston/OWC etc. and end up with 24GB for less than Apple charges for the upgrade to 16GB.
 
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djjaes said:
I think about buying a new computer like buying a new car...at the time when you need, or want, a new car, you get what is available. As with computers, there will be newer models that are likely to be better next year. Yet when next year arrives, the newer ones are on the horizon. It's a paradox. Best to get what you want/need now, car or computer withstanding.
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So true. Like not spending ALL your money there ;-)
 
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djjaes said:
I think about buying a new computer like buying a new car...at the time when you need, or want, a new car, you get what is available. As with computers, there will be newer models that are likely to be better next year. Yet when next year arrives, the newer ones are on the horizon. It's a paradox. Best to get what you want/need now, car or computer withstanding.
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Yup, everyone always bitches & moans about "I just bought ______ an now a new version just came out."

Yes, because they're designing the new one before you ever bought the old one. But I always try to check the Buyer's Guide ^ and rumors and adjust my purchases accordingly. Get what you need at the time and if you don't need it, hold off, something new is coming...
 
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Can anyone quantify the differences in GPU between the 3 iMac 27" models?
 
ZipZap said:
Can anyone quantify the differences in GPU between the 3 iMac 27" models?
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I normally go to NotebookCheck website to see the quantified difference between GPU's. However the new ones probably haven't got any benchmarks in yet. Better to be patient and wait for the stats to show up.
 
djjaes said:
I think about buying a new computer like buying a new car...at the time when you need, or want, a new car, you get what is available. As with computers, there will be newer models that are likely to be better next year. Yet when next year arrives, the newer ones are on the horizon. It's a paradox. Best to get what you want/need now, car or computer withstanding.
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Ehhh not really. Using the iMac as an example, when the new MacBook Pros with TouchBar came out I was like "wow I deff need my next iMac to have TB3".

So if this iMac didn't have it I would've for the next one (which wouldn't be too far off).

With computers there's not a whole lot of innovation depending on when you buy. It's safe to say the next iMac will probably have a redesign though.

I would buy a new iMac today and in my head be like "ok I'm gonna get this, but know that the remodel is probably not too far off. if they don't remodel all they'll change in the new ones are a couple specs."
 
djjaes said:
I think about buying a new computer like buying a new car...at the time when you need, or want, a new car, you get what is available. As with computers, there will be newer models that are likely to be better next year. Yet when next year arrives, the newer ones are on the horizon. It's a paradox. Best to get what you want/need now, car or computer withstanding.
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ya, but u upgrade your computer more times than u get a new car.
 
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