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Wow, three times more powerful than my mid-2009 model. I am perfectly happy with what I have though, can't get too worked up over updates, you know?

Yep! And take the benchmarks with a grain of salt--it's a very specific and limited measure.

I don't think I've hit the processing limits of any of the Macs I've owned, except for the last generation Powerbook--the 1.67 hi-res version would choke on some of what I did with iMovie and the like.
 
I purchased iStat Menus a month ago or so, and have since been embarrassed by the amount of use I get out of my machine. Despite being two or three generations old, it is still a very powerful computer, and I should really take advantage of that.
 
hi, I just had to register and ask your opinion guys,
i'm indecisive because i don't know if I should buy the new 13'' 2.7 i7 MBP. I do own a late 2009 white macbook (2.26 C2D) but I can't get those new MBPs out of my mind:rolleyes:. The thing is that if I'd order the MBP within 1 week from now (i could place the order with my university by then) I could get it for around $1650 including apple care. I'm in Europe (Switzerland) and the regular price for the 13'' 2.7 with apple care is 2'100$, so I'd save around $400. I would sell my white MB to my brother for around $450 so that leaves me with around $1200 to spend, but I'm still kinda not sure if I should buy it or not. Would I notice a big difference while working on the new MBP? I'm doing basic office, internet stuff and some Photoshop Express and GarageBand work, maybe one or two (older) games from time to time...

so yeah...convince me please!:D:apple:
 
Any Team Fortress 2 benchmarks on the new macbook pro 15"? That game is the only thing that's keeping me back from making the jump.
 
Updated:

Reran Geekbench 32 bit and got 6031.

Ran Cinebench and got the following:
OpenGL: 6416
Render (single): 4077
Render (multiple): 8666
MP Speedup: 2.13

Yikes.
 
I've got an early 2010 mbp 13" with 2.26 Ghz core 2 duo and (upgraded) 8gb memory and a 1tb hard drive

The only intensive programs I run are Traktor and Ableton which run fine but, would I see a significant improvement in these programs?

Thunderbolt also interests me (when the peripherals come out) and I'm also thinking of buying a cinema dislplay is it worth making the jump to the basic 13" ( i could probably sell mine for £900)
 
Impressive benchmarks, but i need advice and clarification

I have been considering buying my first mac 15" laptop for about 2 months. I am looking at the antiglare high res screen. I also have been combing apple's refurbished page at the 2010 I5s and I7s. The I5 would likely be more than adequate. and the I7 overpowered for ms word, web, vpn and some games like WOW with my son. (I dont do high end photo shop or video editing). The price for the 2010 I7 with the upgraded screen dropped from 1999 to 1730 this past thursday.

So here is the situation, A unit that was too overpowered for my uses 4 days ago now has about half the performance of the replacement.-- Now underpowered (relatively speaking).

Thunderbolt, in theory sounds nice but not too practical for me. I never touched my firewire port.

what to buy, what to buy?
 
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Unless you can get strong re-sale money for your late model MacBooks,
patience may work in your favor in the long run.

Thunderbolt is absolutely a HUGE leap in bandwidth, but those MacBooks
pretty much have your portable needs covered for now.

I'm coming up from Tiger 10.4.11 and all the new software upgrades were starting to leave me in the dust, since PPC's are no longer supported.

You might want to think about your real portable uses and needs
and weight that against maybe waiting for a Thunderbolt equipped
iMac or Mac Pro for heavy use once they come out.
 
So here is the situation, A unit that was too overpowered for my uses 4 days ago now has about half the performance of the replacement.-- Now underpowered (relatively speaking).

what to buy, what to buy?

Get the new one. First, it's new and the fastest you can get. Second, it will hold its value far better than the refurbished prior generation ones. Third, you won't have that nagging "I should have bought new" feeling.

This is the time to buy them--when they are brand new and have just been introduced, because it gives you the longest time possible to use and depreciate them.
 
Get the new one. First, it's new and the fastest you can get. Second, it will hold its value far better than the refurbished prior generation ones. Third, you won't have that nagging "I should have bought new" feeling.

This is the time to buy them--when they are brand new and have just been introduced, because it gives you the longest time possible to use and depreciate them.

That was totally my thoughts on this. I was complacent with the 13" Core2 MBP I got and was just fortunate that I picked it up last Saturday and someone pointed out that the new ones were going to be out in a week.

I asked around and found out I could exchange it within 14 days. Waited till the 24th and went and exchanged it at lunch that day at Best Buy for the new i5 model.

One thing that I did was to purchase the Seagate Momentus XT Hard drive to swap into it.

This drive makes a HUGE difference. Its a hybrid HD+SSD disk
32mb Cache @ 7200rpm 500GB Disk with a 4GB SSD chip built in. I simply used Carbon Copy Cloner and had it up and running inside 2 hours.
 
Get the new one. First, it's new and the fastest you can get. Second, it will hold its value far better than the refurbished prior generation ones. Third, you won't have that nagging "I should have bought new" feeling.

This is the time to buy them--when they are brand new and have just been introduced, because it gives you the longest time possible to use and depreciate them.

On the other hand, sometimes the "brand new" have some early problems (yellow screens, spots on screens, graphics glitches) that soon get ironed out with hardware revisions or software upgrades. Waiting a few weeks to watch for reports of early adopters' problems can save some headaches.

This is good advice whether you're buying a notebook, a car, a television receiver or most anything else. Being first to get a new model can give you headaches.
 
On the other hand, sometimes the "brand new" have some early problems
(Emphasis added.)

The key word: "sometimes." And usually in the past. Given Apple's recent history with unibody Macbook Pros, it's unlikely to be an issue. And even if it is, it's under warranty for a year.
 
Why are there 27 negatives????? The only conclusion I can come to as to why people would find this as a negative thing is because their upset that their 2010 macbook pros now look like netbooks. Those damn Apple folks always making their products faster! Well I think this is amazing I remember when we where all speculating and allot of people where saying quads where no way going to make it into the new Macbook Pros. I'm so excited for my 17in to get here, I can't believe that I'll have a laptop thats more powerful than my hexacore Mac Pro!
 
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Anyone have any experience with how the new 2.2ghz 15" runs StarCraft 2 in bootcamp? What graphics setting can you play it smoothly at? I'd like to start doing some casts and streaming also so I'd need a bit of processing power left over for that.
 
Why are there 27 negatives????? The only conclusion I can come to as to why people would find this as a negative thing is because their upset that their 2010 macbook pros now look like netbooks.

no, actually it doesn't matter what the news item is, there will be negative votes, some people only come on here with just that purpose... sad I know but....
 
I know yeah :(. But i was surprised at the Airs ability to game so maybe i will be shocked by these too

Someone made a claim that the GPU included with the 13inch model is close to the 9400M - the reality is anything but that. Benchmarks that were leaked a while ago showed that at the worse case scenario it was equal to the 320/330. The only thing that will let down the GPU isn't the hardware but whether the driver and OpenGL stack are properly optimised. Given how close Lion is to being released (in the next 6 months) I wonder whether the focus has been more on getting Lion optimised than spending a tonne of time on optimising Snow Leopard.
 
QUOTE - "they are also all defective, take a look at the forums with people complaining about data loss on those SSD/HDD hybrids, even worse if you run OSX on it"

I purchased one of these HDD-SSD Hybrid drives - the seagate momentus XT 500GB - based on the reviews of the device, the 2 Apple "Genius" employees who highly recommended it, and my own understanding of the technology. It thus far has shown a massive improvement in booting and application launch as well as overall speed in the use of the MBP.

This is in the new i5 13" MBP that I installed it in. I do own a Crucial C-300 SSD drive that is fast, but the cost of getting anything over 128GB is not yet worth waiting on average of 4 to 8 seconds longer for something to complete.

I paid $99 plus shipping from NewEgg for the drive. Well worth the upgrade and I also got a HDD enclosure for the drive I took out of the MAC to use as my time machine drive.

Your "defective" may apply to some but not all and is probably not singled out to a particular drive.
 
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Anyone have any experience with how the new 2.2ghz 15" runs StarCraft 2 in bootcamp? What graphics setting can you play it smoothly at? I'd like to start doing some casts and streaming also so I'd need a bit of processing power left over for that.

Why Run it in Bootcamp when there is a Mac OS X Client? Because of Streaming?

But I'm sure it will be plenty fast. Oblivion runs amazing on this machine compared to my 2.53 MBP 2009 15"
 
Why Run it in Bootcamp when there is a Mac OS X Client? Because of Streaming?

Game performance is just far superior on windows. My mid-2007 macbook pro handles StarCraft 2 just fine in bootcamp, but in OS X it is almost unplayable. The same has been true for most games I've tried that have been on the fringe of what my computer is capable of running.
 
Yep! And take the benchmarks with a grain of salt--it's a very specific and limited measure.

I don't think I've hit the processing limits of any of the Macs I've owned, except for the last generation Powerbook--the 1.67 hi-res version would choke on some of what I did with iMovie and the like.

I hit my processor limit all day everyday using 3d animation software... I've just ordered the top spec 17" - it will be fun to see how it goes when I'm working away from my office.
 
its both very sad and embarrassing for last years macbook pros i dont think apple has ever had that big of a performance change without changing from duo core to i7 and i5 before
 
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