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New MacBook Pro Benchmarks Show Massive Improvement
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Sorry, did they even read any of the negative comments here today? 
Everyone knows this MacBook Pro refresh was totally underwhelming.
Everyone knows this MacBook Pro refresh was totally underwhelming.
I know yeah
. But i was surprised at the Airs ability to game so maybe i will be shocked by these tooOf course!
Yesterday refresh was by far the best Mac related news in months (years!?)
Why it got so many negative votes is beyond puzzling
Getting MBP 15" + 6750 in couple of months time
Yesterday refresh was by far the best Mac related news in months (years!?)
Why it got so many negative votes is beyond puzzling
Getting MBP 15" + 6750 in couple of months time
I now am confused on what to buy. I was waiting for this refresh really thinking they would take the MBA screen to the 13 pros. Although I am stoked with the speed I am tossing up high end 13pro or high end 13 air. I wonder how smooth the 13 pro would be with a SSD hard drive.
What are your thoughts if you had to choose?
Keep in mind I will be carrying it around a lot.
What are your thoughts if you had to choose?
Keep in mind I will be carrying it around a lot.
The new macbook pro refresh wasn't actually that bad.
Sure, it was not as great as everybody was expecting - but it still has the newest sandy bridge core range (which is AMAZING), and it has decent graphics (even the 13" actually - CNET did a review on it).
The 13" will suit people (like me) who already have a desktop, and want something that will cater for their needs when they are not at home with their iMac.
In my opinion, the refresh delivered.
Sure, it was not as great as everybody was expecting - but it still has the newest sandy bridge core range (which is AMAZING), and it has decent graphics (even the 13" actually - CNET did a review on it).
The 13" will suit people (like me) who already have a desktop, and want something that will cater for their needs when they are not at home with their iMac.
In my opinion, the refresh delivered.
Anandtech had stated in their review of mobile quad core sandy bridge something like it was the first time they had seen real desktop performance coming from a laptop.
They said we would see up to 50% (I think that's what it was?) improvement over last years offerings.
The quad cores were a real nice surprise. I figured there was a possibility of them ending up in the 17", but the 15" makes it exciting. I'm pretty happy: good quad-core performance, a better GPU in the top MBPs, and an option for 750GB HD. My only disappointments are that the screen resolution was not bumped up and the games Apple plays with the graphics cards (oh, you want the good graphics card or more vram? Then you have to upgrade to the more powerful machine, gotchaa!!)
I will definitely be picking up the 15", it was worth waiting all the time I did for this refresh.
They said we would see up to 50% (I think that's what it was?) improvement over last years offerings.
The quad cores were a real nice surprise. I figured there was a possibility of them ending up in the 17", but the 15" makes it exciting. I'm pretty happy: good quad-core performance, a better GPU in the top MBPs, and an option for 750GB HD. My only disappointments are that the screen resolution was not bumped up and the games Apple plays with the graphics cards (oh, you want the good graphics card or more vram? Then you have to upgrade to the more powerful machine, gotchaa!!)
I will definitely be picking up the 15", it was worth waiting all the time I did for this refresh.
Nice boost.
I'm disappointed that the rumoured dedicated SSD drive for the OS didn't come this time. That was my biggest wish.
And I really wish they would promote and leverage Xgrid more. With households, schools and businesses have increased Macs connected to their local networks, Xgrid could be a huge benefit for anyone doing processor-intensive tasks. Has such potential and a big differentiator to the Windows side of things.
I'm disappointed that the rumoured dedicated SSD drive for the OS didn't come this time. That was my biggest wish.
And I really wish they would promote and leverage Xgrid more. With households, schools and businesses have increased Macs connected to their local networks, Xgrid could be a huge benefit for anyone doing processor-intensive tasks. Has such potential and a big differentiator to the Windows side of things.
Only one thing missing
If the 13" had the higher screen res I'd have ordered it today. Now I'm going to really think about whether to get the 15" for the power and res or the 13" MBA for the weight. I really wish I didn't have to make that choice.
Benchmarks are higher than I expected. Anandtech's review of a Sandy Bridge notebook prototype showed 50-100% performance increase. There's a good chance battery life for these new MBP models will be better able to hold up to Apple's claims than last gen.
If the 13" had the higher screen res I'd have ordered it today. Now I'm going to really think about whether to get the 15" for the power and res or the 13" MBA for the weight. I really wish I didn't have to make that choice.
Benchmarks are higher than I expected. Anandtech's review of a Sandy Bridge notebook prototype showed 50-100% performance increase. There's a good chance battery life for these new MBP models will be better able to hold up to Apple's claims than last gen.
I'm keen to see what performance boosts the new iMac will get before I part with my hard earned cash... I must admit I'm very torn at the moment as the new MBP looks great, but want to get the most bang for my buck when buying a Mac.
If we are speaking from a CPU point of view, DUH.
Those sandy bridge i3/5/7 are top of the line, its basically leak proof of last generation i3/5/7 and crunches alot of power whatever it can grab.
I can't wait to see it GPU wise, but already the intel hd 3000 is better than nvidias gt 320
Those sandy bridge i3/5/7 are top of the line, its basically leak proof of last generation i3/5/7 and crunches alot of power whatever it can grab.
I can't wait to see it GPU wise, but already the intel hd 3000 is better than nvidias gt 320
Why is th 17" i7-2820QM 2.3 Ghz faster than the 15" i7-2820QM 2.3 Ghz
Seems strange if this is just a processor test?
Seems strange if this is just a processor test?
I like this new upgrade.
I'm thinking about getting it.... should I? (Over a 2007 Santa Rosa MBP C2D)
but I'm kinda sad about no 16GB SSD for loading the OSX.
should I jump the gun and get the 512GB SSD? LOL
I'm thinking about getting it.... should I? (Over a 2007 Santa Rosa MBP C2D)
but I'm kinda sad about no 16GB SSD for loading the OSX.
should I jump the gun and get the 512GB SSD? LOL
THe sandy bridge architecture is basically generation 2 for these CPUS, it is shown to be 30 percent faster than the previous generation along with a newer intergrated graphics. Anandtech has a more robust review about it, but basically these sandy bridge based cpus have so many internal improvements that is too much to list.
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What is the difference in speed between an SSD in the MBA and one in the new MBP ?? If I am not mistaken, the SSD is built on the motherboard on the MBA and is not on the MBP.
Won't this have an influence on the speed of the MBP SSD since it is simply a HDD replacement and not built on the board?
ladeer said:I was torn between MBA and MBP13 this morning when I learned the disappointing specs especially the lack of SSD and better graphic card. I was about to buy a MBA 13inch, then I thought oh well I might as well upgrade the MBP13 to a SSD and would get something close to what I need without a killer graphic card. It turned out, as it seems, it's not a bad idea at all! I think I will be happy w/ this MBP13 w/ 128GB SSD.
What is the difference in speed between an SSD in the MBA and one in the new MBP ?? If I am not mistaken, the SSD is built on the motherboard on the MBA and is not on the MBP.
Won't this have an influence on the speed of the MBP SSD since it is simply a HDD replacement and not built on the board?
Wow, the new MBP 15 in with 2.3 ghz quad core is x3 faster as regards the CPU speed when comparing my late 2008 MBP with 2.8 ghz dual core.
Im seriously thinking of selling my 2008 and upgrading. Seems like a lot of upgrades when comparing to the late 2008 15 in model. Seems like a decent upgrade after less than 3 years. My original 2008 model cost around the same price.
2008: 2.8 ghz Dual core vs 2.2 Quad core in 2011, x3 speed improvement
2008: less battery life vs 7 hours in 2011
2008 expand memory to 6gb vs 8GB in 2011
2008: No Thunderbolt
2008: lower resolution vs 1690 hi res in 2011
2008 250 gb 7200 rpm hd vs 500gb 72000 rpm HD in 2011
2008 low res isight vs hi-res isight for 2011
2008: no SD slot vs one sd slot in 2011
2008 512MB NVIDIA card vs 1GB AMD in 2011
Seems like a good time to upgrade.
Im seriously thinking of selling my 2008 and upgrading. Seems like a lot of upgrades when comparing to the late 2008 15 in model. Seems like a decent upgrade after less than 3 years. My original 2008 model cost around the same price.
2008: 2.8 ghz Dual core vs 2.2 Quad core in 2011, x3 speed improvement
2008: less battery life vs 7 hours in 2011
2008 expand memory to 6gb vs 8GB in 2011
2008: No Thunderbolt
2008: lower resolution vs 1690 hi res in 2011
2008 250 gb 7200 rpm hd vs 500gb 72000 rpm HD in 2011
2008 low res isight vs hi-res isight for 2011
2008: no SD slot vs one sd slot in 2011
2008 512MB NVIDIA card vs 1GB AMD in 2011
Seems like a good time to upgrade.
Viva MacBolt Pros! This is great news.
By the way: the very one MBP I am interested in is not listed, the 15'' 2.2.
By the way: the very one MBP I am interested in is not listed, the 15'' 2.2.
To everybody complaining about the 16GB SSD -- just wait 1-2 years. SSD drives will drop in price, and swap in a 256GB SSD in for cheap. Problem solved.
So this makes it even more clear. If you want an MBP for speed, you also need nothing else but an SSD to accompany it. It'll be hard to exploit all this punch with an 5400 rpm drive. But a Quad Core i7, Thunderbolt, and an SSD. Wow, that would be a monster unlike any other laptop on the market that I can think of right now.