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Just ordered the 17 MBP 2.3/Quad, 8GB Ram, 512 SSD, Anti-Glare.

Can't imagine what the benchmarks will be with the SSD BTO options.

One advice to everyone. Don't be cheap and try to upgrade yourself. Use Apple's BTO because it is covered under warranty. I don't trust SSDs still no matter what people say. Plus the 512gb option is $990 w/ student discount. 512GB SSDs go for about $1500. BTW just pick a random university (lol, I picked Harvard). Trust me they don't check if you are really a student. I saved $200 on the laptop, about $200 on the upgrades, and another $100 or so on the warranty. Still came out to be about $4300 with tax though.
You really pulled a fast one on Steve, dropping $4300 on a laptop. :rolleyes:
 
Agreed. Don't forget, this purchase can really stick around for several years if you want it to. While you are already spending the 2,000 bucks, it would make sense to spend a few more to really prolong the value of your purchase. The high-end 15" is a much better investment... ESP if you can manage an SSD, which really helps get the true power out of these processors.

Thank you for your opinion, matty
Well, in theory this sounds logical and I agree to you. But I am not made of money, sadly. :D
The top-end 13" was nearly as much as I could spend at the moment. But if you really think, the 15" is a way better investment, I will try to get some extra cash.
Of course, I agree to you that a computer is an investement with which you will work and live for a couple of years. Seeing it this way...

Again, my only thoughts go to the portability, which I think are more restricted with the 15" than they are with the 13".
 
Hi together,

my first post here; finally registered. =D

Yesterday I ordered the top-end of the new MacBook Pro 13" with the 2.7 i7. But I'm feeling quite uncomfortable about my decision. Primary, because of the onboard-intel-graphics-thing. I am gonna use it for my study, but I also want to play actual games on it from time to time.
I was wondering if my choice was okay or if I rather should re-invest in the top-end MBA or the low-end 15".

I'd appreciate if you'd find some time to answer my questions. Thank you!


Cheers

If you play games, then yes, you will need more than an integrated INTEL graphics chip. GO for the 15" top with 1GB AMD graphics.
You won't regret it.
 
Alright, so this is what I bought yesterday morning:

15" 2.2 Ghz with 512 gb SSD, anti-glare screen.
Tell me, what do you guys thing about the anti-glare compared with glossy.

When I viewed in-store, the glossy seemed to give a better contrast, deeper blacks, but of course had the glare.

What are the pros/cons to either?
 
Does that mean the integrated graphics on the 13" aren't so bad afterall?

It was never bad. People just jumped to conclusions without checking benchmarks.

Looking forward to my first mac :D (bought the budget 13", but I'm guessing it'll be fine for what I need it for).
 
Thank you for your opinion, matty
Well, in theory this sounds logical and I agree to you. But I am not made of money, sadly. :D
The top-end 13" was nearly as much as I could spend at the moment. But if you really think, the 15" is a way better investment, I will try to get some extra cash.
Of course, I agree to you that a computer is an investement with which you will work and live for a couple of years. Seeing it this way...

Again, my only thoughts go to the portability, which I think are more restricted with the 15" than they are with the 13".

Having kept almost every computer (mac) I've ever had (most still work to this day) I'd say it's always better to wait a little bit if you have to save up/put together some more funds and get the more powerful option because in a couple/few years down the road it will make a huge difference. The 15 really isn't that big if you're carying it in a bag, but if you really want portability over performance you could alway look at an Air ;)
 
I totally agree. I love the 17s I've had over the years but after lugging it around NYC all day I almost regretted the weight. The jump in performance from 13-15 is a much bigger difference than the slight decrease in portability, not to mention if you're going to use it at university the higher res screen will be a great improvement because you can read a paper and write one simultaneously with less effort (and the non-glare screen option is far superior in lecture halls with huge light arrays above and behind you). The SSD would also be incredibly beneficial to you because not only is it much faster but since you said you'll be on the train a lot the vibrations of the moving cars and tracks won't have nearly as high of a likelihood of damaging your comp/drive/data as they would if you had a normal HDD with moving parts and slower performance.

Well, you're arguments are good. Thank you for explaining! Now I am really thinking about sending the 13" back to apple and purchasing a 15" instead. Well, I will talk to my brother. He's the one who has to lend me the extra money. :D

He's using a 2008 13" MBP and from what he told me, I thought the 15" is not portable enough (he is a management consultant and traveling a lot).

Thanks again for all your good answers!


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Having kept almost every computer (mac) I've ever had (most still work to this day) I'd say it's always better to wait a little bit if you have to save up/put together some more funds and get the more powerful option because in a couple/few years down the road it will make a huge difference. The 15 really isn't that big if you're carying it in a bag, but if you really want portability over performance you could alway look at an Air ;)

Uhh, MacBook Air now? :S I thought, the 13" was a nice compromise.



If you play games, then yes, you will need more than an integrated INTEL graphics chip. GO for the 15" top with 1GB AMD graphics.
You won't regret it.
Well, I don't doubt that. But I simply don't have THAT much money. :D
 
Alright, so this is what I bought yesterday morning:

15" 2.2 Ghz with 512 gb SSD, anti-glare screen.
Tell me, what do you guys thing about the anti-glare compared with glossy.

When I viewed in-store, the glossy seemed to give a better contrast, deeper blacks, but of course had the glare.

What are the pros/cons to either?

You made the right choice my friend. The glossy screen is only good if you are watching a movie in a dark room (I am not going to lie in that rare situation, it is far superior). Anti glare is better for your eyes. You won't be smiling at yourself in a mirror all the time and you can actually see the screen outside. Honestly, when they first removed the Anti Glare from Macbook Pros (except 17) I freaked out.
 
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Safari must feel snappier!

Haha, but this time it's probably actually true. :D Although the difference in a web browser can still be pretty minor. :p Actually - a multi-process browser like Chrome should be able to exploit the multiple cores much better, in case of heavy JS (or dare I say it - Flash) web applications.

I wonder if Safari 6 will use WebKit 2. That's the new WebKit architecture for multi-process browsers. So it's coming to Safari too. :)
 
Thank you for your opinion, matty
Well, in theory this sounds logical and I agree to you. But I am not made of money, sadly. :D
The top-end 13" was nearly as much as I could spend at the moment. But if you really think, the 15" is a way better investment, I will try to get some extra cash.
Of course, I agree to you that a computer is an investement with which you will work and live for a couple of years. Seeing it this way...

Again, my only thoughts go to the portability, which I think are more restricted with the 15" than they are with the 13".

I definitely see what you are getting at. I will be using my machine primarily for video editing, some very little gaming, and other graphic-type work. The portability of the 13" is definitely nice and it really is just a matter of what is more important, performance or portability.

If you can sacrifice some of the portability for some substantial gains in performance, I would say, with some patience and a couple more months of saving, you will have a much more rewarding purchase. Just a little delayed gratification can go a long way :)

are you German, or studying abroad?
 
Well now, if the MBP refreshes are that good, I wonder what Apple has in store for the iMac refresh… Can't wait...
 
Well, you're arguments are good. Thank you for explaining! Now I am really thinking about sending the 13" back to apple and purchasing a 15" instead. Well, I will talk to my brother. He's the one who has to lend me the extra money. :D

He's using a 2008 13" MBP and from what he told me, I thought the 15" is not portable enough (he is a management consultant and traveling a lot).

Thanks again for all your good answers!

+1 13 Inch Macbook Pro never really felt like a "Pro", but rather a premium Macbook. Not Pro, but not basic either, something in between. 15-17 are the "real" Pros.
 
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Frak me.

Ok torn up now. Was thinking about the pimped out 11" MBA because portability is important to me and I only play Eve-online in terms of non-console gaming and reliably informed that the maxed out 11" air can handle that with decent settings.

But the base 13" MBP is cheaper..... need to see some GPU benchmarks on that sucker.
 
Does that mean the integrated graphics on the 13" aren't so bad afterall?


Yeah maybe for the most part.


And wow just a few or so hours ago everyone it seemed liked on this forum board where doing what they always do "COMPLAIN, AND THEN COMPLAIN" some more.. Glad they are much faster just to shut people up. The ones you can never make happy.
 
Thank you for your opinion, matty
Well, in theory this sounds logical and I agree to you. But I am not made of money, sadly. :D
The top-end 13" was nearly as much as I could spend at the moment. But if you really think, the 15" is a way better investment, I will try to get some extra cash.
Of course, I agree to you that a computer is an investement with which you will work and live for a couple of years. Seeing it this way...

Again, my only thoughts go to the portability, which I think are more restricted with the 15" than they are with the 13".

Unless you're going to game on the S-/U-/Regiobahn/ICE/IC, I'd go with the 13.3" low-specification model and build a dedicated gaming machine with the extra 300-500€ you'd spend on the 15" MBP. That way you can carry the 13.3" MBP around and game when you want at home. You can always upgrade both machines later as the cost of components decreases.

What field are you in? I know a bunch of professors at Osnabrück.
 
For the first time ever Macbook Pros are beating my 2006 Mac Pro at Geekbench! And it only took them 5 years ;)
 
Problem is, extra processing power is not what most people need anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, or voting negative, it's just that there is more on the wish list these days.

For example, if the 13" had the MBA's screen and discrete graphics I'd be A LOT more interested.

Exactly - I have the base 2.4GHz i5 and never really feel the need for more power. As the 15 and 17 inch 2011 models are quad core they have ca. twice the performance in *this* benchmark compared to the dual core 2010 modelss.

I'd rather have a couple of hundred extra matte pixels in each direction - that would make me more productive than a CPU increase.
 
Problem is, extra processing power is not what most people need anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, or voting negative, it's just that there is more on the wish list these days.

For example, if the 13" had the MBA's screen and discrete graphics I'd be A LOT more interested.

The Macbook Air does not have discrete graphics. The 13" Macbook Pro's graphics (also not discrete), are nothing to write home about, but are a bit faster.
 
Alright, so this is what I bought yesterday morning:

15" 2.2 Ghz with 512 gb SSD, anti-glare screen.
Tell me, what do you guys thing about the anti-glare compared with glossy.

When I viewed in-store, the glossy seemed to give a better contrast, deeper blacks, but of course had the glare.

What are the pros/cons to either?

Matte (anti-glare) all the way. 2010 MBP15 and my colleagues (with glare-tastic screens) are jealous...
 
I definitely see what you are getting at. I will be using my machine primarily for video editing, some very little gaming, and other graphic-type work. The portability of the 13" is definitely nice and it really is just a matter of what is more important, performance or portability.

If you can sacrifice some of the portability for some substantial gains in performance, I would say, with some patience and a couple more months of saving, you will have a much more rewarding purchase. Just a little delayed gratification can go a long way :)

are you German, or studying abroad?

Yeah, you are right. I saved my money for over six month now. It was hard enough to wait for the new MBPs to be honest. :D
I am German. Thought that was pretty obvious regarding to my written English. ;D

Yeah sorry I was being sarcastic.

Didn't get that. Haha. Now that's embarrassing.

Unless you're going to game on the S-/U-/Regiobahn/ICE/IC, I'd go with the 13.3" low-specification model and build a dedicated gaming machine with the extra 300-500€ you'd spend on the 15" MBP. That way you can carry the 13.3" MBP around and game when you want at home. You can always upgrade both machines later as the cost of components decreases.

What field are you in? I know a bunch of professors at Osnabrück.

I am studying economics psychology/occupation psychology at the Hochschule Osnabrück. My professors are Kanning, Kumbruck, Stegmaier, Richter and some others. ;)

Well, your arguments sound pretty logical, too. Probably I could get the low-end 13" and spend the saved money on a pc - which are honestly way cheaper than a comparable Mac. Well. I don't know. Too much input . :D


Thank you all a lot! I will reconsider.



EDIT:
Well, the top-end 15" would cost me around 1900 € (around 2630 $) including taxes. At the moment I got around 1400-1500 € (2000 $) which I could spend. Hmm. Damn.
 
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Just ordered mine, my last MBP is 3 years old so this looks like its going to be a huge step up.

I got 15" BTO with High Res anti-glare screen, 2.2ghz and 128gb Ssd.

I'm wording if you guys think the SSD was a good choice? I do graphic design so I thought the speed would be great since Photoshop has to work off the drive if the files are too large. I heard the diff between SSD and 7200rpm was much greater than between 5400 and 7200. I could only afford 128gb but I figure in a year I can upgrade the SSD once prices drop.

Chris
 
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