New MacBook Pro Finally Features a 1080p Webcam Within a Notch

[dampfnudel]

Very unlikely. The punch hole rumor never made sense, since the iPhone would then just look like any other Android phone and Apple prefers brand recognition. Not to mention, why would they bother shrinking the notch if they planned to fully remove it a year later?

Because they want the iPhone 14 Pro to look different from the iPhone 13 Pro to entice more people to upgrade. I don’t believe there will be a punch hole either because there’s no way Apple could shrink the FaceID components that small, it’s impossible. What they could do is shrink it a little more and integrate it into the top bezel, giving us a “clean” display with no intruding notch. I can definitely see that happening and people would know at first glance it’s not a iPhone 12 Pro or 13 Pro.

The shrink of the notch is so minor that I believe the only reason they did that was to accommodate another component like the enlarged camera system or maybe something else. It’s foolish to think Apple is now committed to the “new” notch for years to come or even next year’s iPhone 14 Pro. It’s possible the iPhone 14 might retain that notch, but I think it would make sense for Apple to change the 14 Pro to further differentiate it from the 14.

 

[firelighter487]

Dead space? I have menubar icons that go entirely across the screen. The notch is REMOVING valuable space for me.

how? i have quite a crowded menu bar and i don't come close.

my display is scaled to 1440x900 btw

 

[MacBH928]

I can be wrong but I think Apple added a notch so you do not install windows or linux on it because it won't work with correctly with the notch.

waiting for an app to create a virtual black bezel on the sides of the notch.

 

[firelighter487]

I can be wrong but I think Apple added a notch so you do not install windows or linux on it because it won't work with correctly with the notch.

waiting for an app to create a virtual black bezel on the sides of the notch.

excuse me? linux can easily be coded to ignore that notch. i could do it in 10 minutes probably

 

[willchris]

Nice job Apple. Killed the PC industry a little more and then kicked the PC laptop corpse.

How's living in your bubble? 9.54% marker share is nowhere near killing the pc...

 

[MacBH928]

excuse me? linux can easily be coded to ignore that notch. i could do it in 10 minutes probably

I actually do not know I am not programmer. How will GNOME work with a notch biting the middle of the screen? how it will affect the themes. full screen? idk

even so, linux can't run right on M1 so far they have like only 3 or so people working on it most of them are depending on a guy called marcan and donations are too low already he only reached 56% of donations to make this his full time job. Sad and shameful on the open source community and linux users from corporates and everyone else...https://www.patreon.com/marcan

How's living in your bubble? 9.54% marker share is nowhere near killing the pc...

cpu performance wise, not sales number wise. Although I wonder about profitability.

 

[firelighter487]

I actually do not know I am not programmer. How will GNOME work with a notch biting the middle of the screen? how it will affect the themes. full screen? idk

there's an app i used to use that allows you to split up one screen into multiple virtual screens. that way you can have one with just the top bar at the top where the notch is and another one on the rest of the display.

 

[Kastellen]

how? i have quite a crowded menu bar and i don't come close.
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my display is scaled to 1440x900 btw

I just counted: I have 42 menu bar icons, not counting any menus my apps put up. That’s how.

 

[firelighter487]

I just counted: I have 42 menu bar icons, not counting any menus my apps put up. That’s how.

you're just weird.

 

[Kastellen]

you're just weird.

You want to tell me which of those menus I should get rid of?

 

[osplo]

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You want to tell me which of those menus I should get rid of?

For starters, you have date and time twice.

CPU can be seen as a total (instead of per core) and that's another space saver.

I never quite looked at the network stats so I could very well live without it. If something fishy is going on with the network you can always temporarily enable it back in a snap.

Then I think that you have to revisit the other apps to see if there is any one that you don't really use much in the toolbar.

Just my two cents.

Good luck!

 

[firelighter487]

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You want to tell me which of those menus I should get rid of?

yeet istat and shrink your clock for a start

 

[Kastellen]

yeet istat and shrink your clock for a start

I use the iStat readings all the time to monitor the system as I never have less than 10 apps running at all times for work. So, no.

 

[Kastellen]

For starters, you have date and time twice.

CPU can be seen as a total (instead of per core) and that's another space saver.

I never quite looked at the network stats so I could very well live without it. If something fishy is going on with the network you can always temporarily enable it back in a snap.

Then I think that you have to revisit the other apps to see if there is any one that you don't really use much in the toolbar.

Just my two cents.

Good luck!

Thanks for the serious answer. I actually have two clocks as the one from iStat brings up my calendar. I can remove the day of the week from the Apple clock, though. I also can probably dump the iStat temperature.

And truth be told, on my laptop (the menu bar I included was my desktop, but they are similar) I do use the “Hide Menu Icons” app from the Parallels Toolbox suite to hide the lesser used ones much of the time, but I was trying to make the point that Apple (and I guess some non-power users) just assumes the middle of the menu bar is wasted space, when it isn’t for everybody. I’m sure most people will not care about the notch, as they don’t have a full menu bar (or so rarely do it doesn’t bother them). But I’d love an option to lower the menu bar below the notch and just ignore the two “ears”, because the menu space is more important to me than the extra vertical height. Sounds like a 3rd party app opportunity!

 

[firelighter487]

I use the iStat readings all the time to monitor the system as I never have less than 10 apps running at all times for work. So, no.

but the system sorts itself out usually.

 

[Kastellen]

but the system sorts itself out usually.

For most people, yes. For me, minutes are dollars. I need to monitor slowdowns, bandwidth shortages, etc. I'm not saying I'm typical, but my needs are my needs. Apple's choice to take out part of the menu bar impacts my needs.

 

[Coolio1234]

Is this webcam any better than the iPad Pro one (minus center stage and all other features)

 

[PHXHow?]

And yet there's a big black bezel at the bottom of the screen. ?‍♂️

That’s probably where the circuitry is to connect to the bottom half.

 

[Kastellen]

For most people, yes. For me, minutes are dollars. I need to monitor slowdowns, bandwidth shortages, etc. I'm not saying I'm typical, but my needs are my needs. Apple's choice to take out part of the menu bar impacts my needs.

Have to follow-up: there is a utility that I already use called RDM, which makes alternate screen resolutions available that the regular Displays control panel does not. My understanding is that this has been updated for the new MacBook Pro models to include a resolution that makes the "ears" and notch area into unusable space, so that the screen starts just below them as if Apple had not added the extra real estate. When my new MBP comes in after Thanksgiving, I'm going to try this out if the notch interferes with my menu items as I fear it will. Third party tools to the rescue!