It’s obvious that it’s all set for FaceID in the next refresh or two. Apple will never give you everything in the first iteration.
M2 Pro/Max will allow them to thin the chassis down in the usual cycle of improvements.
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New MacBook Pro Models Include HDMI 2.0 Port Instead of HDMI 2.1
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M2 Pro/Max will allow them to thin the chassis down in the usual cycle of improvements.
HDMI 2.1 is starting to become common on TVs, that's why Apple TV has it.
DisplayPort is more common on computer monitors; that's what TB4 support; DP 1.4 should support up to 120hz at 4k (non-HDR) or 6K at 60hz. They are starting to come with HDMI 2.1 ports for high-refresh monitors that is gaming-focused.
That's why the M1 Pro can support two Apple Display Pro XDR at 6k at 60hz.
I suspect if XDR comes with ProMotion, we'll need DP 2.0 support to enable 120hz with HDR support.
DisplayPort is more common on computer monitors; that's what TB4 support; DP 1.4 should support up to 120hz at 4k (non-HDR) or 6K at 60hz. They are starting to come with HDMI 2.1 ports for high-refresh monitors that is gaming-focused.
That's why the M1 Pro can support two Apple Display Pro XDR at 6k at 60hz.
I suspect if XDR comes with ProMotion, we'll need DP 2.0 support to enable 120hz with HDR support.
This seems to be a technical limitation as other have mentioned in this thread.
By my educated estimate the update cycle works as such:
iPhone = Annually updated
iPad = Annually to every 18 months updated depending on product line at present.
Apple Silicon Mac = Every 18 months to two years.
So you will be waiting around 2023 for the next big update which makes sense hence we get a big leap in CPU and GPU performance along with other features.
I didn’t realize many projectors or LCD/LED/OLED TV require a 120Hz presentation ability. Actually does AppleTV 2021 unlocked the 120Hz output yet. This is a non-issue tbh and I am not even in the market as I am happy with my M1 MBA.
Along with 3 new ports. It used to not come with any "old" ports and people complained.
…and honestly there isn’t a single need for hdmi 2.1. No one buys a Mac to game on. Seriously you think those Apple Arcade games need to be run on an HDMI 2.1 LG OLED tv? 😂
I am not sure if you understand bandwidth channels or not, but this is not quite as easy of a solution as you guys are implying. I am not saying they couldn't have done it if they were hell bent on doing it, but it is no where as easy as a "$0.30" changeout. Others have mentioned the TB4/PCIe4 channels have limitations and since there are more ports, those bandwidths have to be split amongst the ports. "Just add more TB4/PCIe4 channels" is easy to say but not as simply to implement. Again, not saying it COULDN'T be done, but the complexity of it is certainly higher than you are indicating.
Also, from a different perspective, given most professional video workflows I am aware of and participate in, I am not really sure many professionals will care. If I am going to connect my laptop to my high end video display it won't be through the HDMI port!! xD
That you could defend a dongle is beyond me. And who's to say a third thunderbolt port couldn't haven't been added on the left side of the case where there's plenty of real estate? This isn't a bandwidth issue; this is a cost issue.
somehow, i doubt a macbook pro will cannibalize an apple tv sale. im not even sure you know what an apple tv is given this response.
Oof. Deal breaker. Add this to the list of excuses of why I don't need a new MBP lol
If it sharing PCIe channel With the SD slot, I guess that means the SD slot is not SD express either.
Man that's a chonky boy; reminds me of the Powerbook G4.
It seems like you’re trying to solve a bandwidth issue with a physical space solution?
Eh, I’m guessing it’s less that and more a bandwidth deal. Plus, are people using the HDMI for anything other than that rare PPT presentation on that random office projector? Assumed most “pros” were using Thunderbolt.
While 2021 Apple TV 4K does have HDMI 2.1 port, Apple stripped just about every 2.1 features from the port.
A freaking $6k laptop with a downgraded HDMI. That is Tim Cook Apple.
Two months ago I showed up to a big presentation and discovered my HDMI dongle was broken
. It was not a fun time. I look forward to having a built-in HDMI slot that will work with most every projector out there.
. It was not a fun time. I look forward to having a built-in HDMI slot that will work with most every projector out there.
It’s also not very universal. Most of the time if you show up at the conference room and want to plug in your laptop they’re gonna hand you a standard size HDMI plug
Most Video & Photo Pros will not use the HDMI port even if it were 2.1
I'm personally disappointed that they even added the HDMI Port... it probably contributed to the thickness of these new machines.
I'm personally disappointed that they even added the HDMI Port... it probably contributed to the thickness of these new machines.
Sure we lost that flexibility on the fourth TB port, but how many people realistically needs all 4 TB ports at once? On the other hand, the number of people who can finally go without an adapter if only the MacBook had HDMI and SD card reader is massive. I'd say this is a net increase in flexibility, not the other way around.
The PCIe lanes that could have driven a fourth Thunderbolt port were instead used to drive the HDMI 2.0 and SD card ports.
Weird that they'd go to the trouble of putting HDMI back but not use the latest standard. I'm still happy it's there though, much better than rat nest of dongles.