The main limitation is that you can't send power over glass, so you wind up needing copper and fiber in an integrated cable which starts to get pretty expensive.
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New MacBook Pro Models Lack Optical Audio Out via Headphone Jack
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You and probably two other people. I think Apple will cope with those three lost sales.
Almost nobody seriously needs optical out anymore.
#Courage is the new jargon for Apple to 'remove' features.
I'd say, a hell of a lot of courage has gone into these new MacBook Pros.
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I'm sure there's some sort of latency and/or feedback issues with external gear, not to mention another device that can go wrong. Well, it is a digital output, but still, there's nothing wrong with the previous implementation of it before.
I'd say, a hell of a lot of courage has gone into these new MacBook Pros.
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I'm sure there's some sort of latency and/or feedback issues with external gear, not to mention another device that can go wrong. Well, it is a digital output, but still, there's nothing wrong with the previous implementation of it before.
People are also over the fanboism in people justifying every stupid descision Apple makes.
No, but I was on the AppleTV. Clearly my set-up was out of date - I should have known that - thanks to apple for letting me know and making me jump through hoops to keep a functional system (hdmi splitter or new receiver). /s
Yeah I get this. I just don't understand how it relates to my comment. Unless you're just adding to it by stating that having integrated HDMI was also fantastic and now thats gone too.
My comment was stating that S/PDIF was an easy way for anyone with a 5.1 COMPUTER speaker system (forget a home entertainment system in your lounge room) to plug it in with a single cable.
Logitech speakers have these and are incredibly popular. In order for me to plug in my 5.1 system, I'd now need to buy an adapter. Which also wastes a USB C port when the Audio Jack port could have previously handled this fine.
802.11ac would not take a half day to do that. It's plenty fast even at its slowest speed rating.
However pros most likely have multiple SD cards and have a card reader (or multiples) that they hook up and batch download. I'm not a pro, shoot RAW on a D750 (30MB+ files) and have NEVER used ANY internal SD reader, PC or Mac. I get an external reader and move that back and for the between machines. It's fast as can bet works with diverse cards - my current is a 7 in one that reads CF, MS, SD, MicroSD, and one more. It runs USB3 and is plenty fast.
The bottleneck in my workflow isn't the SD card, it's Lightroom's generation of Smart and normal previews.
Im surprised Eric Persing would say that (Im familiar with him and some of his awesome sound design work).
Why would a pro care about onboard optical audio when are are a zillion better options out there? You have a 40 Gb/sec external interface, any pro is just going to connect pro audio gear to that and skip the crappy onboard audio altogether.
Another non-issue. The only two legit ones so far are if you need more than 16 GB of RAM, or you just can't accept the price.
Reading some of the posts here in the last month leave me wondering if some of the people here are serious or if they're parodying the stereotypical Apple fan.
Marketing is such a powerful tool sometimes. You know up and till you said that I’d totally forgotten that other laptops had touch ID too. I’d even owned, (company), some of them!!
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If you add up the actual time to take it out of the camera, plug into the Mac and make a transfer, maybe it is?
To still be able to run Windows (because it still uses Intel chips and not ARM) would be a huge relief at this rate.Another bad news story every day.
What next? It secretly runs Windows but not MacOS
I considered that but I use Fcpx & Logic professionally so I'm kinda stuck in the mac ecosystem for now. Hello 2015 MacBook Pro.
Anyone that runs a professional recording studio like I do find the optical ports useful. Not critical but useful. Remember we rely on older gear for its sound and optical connectivity is supported by much gear from the previous gens. As the MBP aren't the center of the studio the optical out also allows a high quality connection to export or master from. It's the nature of which Apple is doing things. Deciding on consumers behalf by dictating and taking away and drawing superfluous roadmaps that veer away from what we want. Simple, powerful portables. In this launch they have shown any support for the pro audio community. They couldn't even manage to get Logic X touch bar suppprt. I really do believe this,in relative terms, will be a flop of a release. Don't buy and wait for the 32gig, 512gb SSD, 500$ cheaper model next year. Stop trying to innovate so hard Apple. If you want to innovate go and make a car and just leave our laptops alone.
I do love this attitude of, 'if you don't like it go with a windows machine'.
Enough people do that and this could be the very last update to "Pro" Macs you will ever see.
Schiller 2019. "our research shows very few professionals using Mac computers anymore so we decided to ditch them".
niun, SurfaceBook - one USB C port away from perfection.
Enough people do that and this could be the very last update to "Pro" Macs you will ever see.
Schiller 2019. "our research shows very few professionals using Mac computers anymore so we decided to ditch them".
niun, SurfaceBook - one USB C port away from perfection.
especially for us developers running any suitable laptop together with elementary OS linux is a very nice alternative to OSX. - it's looking beautiful out of the box, and very similar to OSX. this is not OSX so it won't be for everyone, i'm well aware of that, but it can be a real option for some of us. it gives you linux natively and windows runs very well inside a VM. if you need to do some stuff for OSX too, having a mac mini you can VNC to might be a cheap option.
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You mistake market share for profit share. If the PC market continues to make no profit for OEMs, Windows might go extinct despite all the people using it. The writing has been on the wall.
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Remember when they used to say, 'I like the mobility of a tablet, but the performance simply isn't on par with a laptop'. These days never come back. Thinner and lighter is what sells MacBooks.
Are you forgetting about every company on the planet that uses windows and desktop pcs?
I think it's safe for the foreseeable future. Until everything becomes augmented reality.
Apple had the creative pro market. They're throwing that away for the hipster fashion crowd.
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Ports, power, battery, compatibility and being the fecking gold standard is what sold MacBook Pro's. Not thinner, not lighter.
They are the reason for this race to the bottom. Companies buy their employees the cheapest laptop, not the best. In a way iPads are also cheap limited alternatives to desktop PCs. A lot of companies could replace their expensive and much too powerful Intel boxes with a bunch of iPad minis.
You only foresee a future in which nothing important changes, that's bound to be incorrect.
Audio professionals, who earn a living by selling music, are by definition fashion-oriented.
The new MBPs have the fastest ports, the fastest processors and the longest battery life ever. And for the first time they use the same high end video port as the coming Windows laptops. Apple used to do its own thing with video connectors and now they are promoting the new industry standard. The forward compatibility of these new MBPs is excellent, especially as USB-C and TB3 now use the same shape of plugs. What you wine about is backward compatibility to the boring old stuff you have at home. Professionals don't care about your 'sunk cost fallacy', they simply want the best laptop that's also thinner and lighter. People who prioritize compatibility never bought into the plattform with 5% market share anyway.
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They are the reason for this race to the bottom. Companies buy their employees the cheapest laptop, not the best. In a way iPads are also cheap limited alternatives to desktop PCs. A lot of companies could replace their expensive and much too powerful Intel boxes with a bunch of iPad minis.
You only foresee a future in which nothing important changes, that's bound to be incorrect.
Audio professionals, who earn a living by selling music, are by definition fashion-oriented.
The new MBPs have the fastest ports, the fastest processors and the longest battery life ever. And for the first time they use the same high end video port as the coming Windows laptops. Apple used to do its own thing with video connectors and now they are promoting the new industry standard. The forward compatibility of these new MBPs is excellent, especially as USB-C and TB3 now use the same shape of plugs. What you wine about is backward compatibility to the boring old stuff you have at home. Professionals don't care about your 'sunk cost fallacy', they simply want the best laptop that's also thinner and lighter. People who prioritize compatibility never bought into the plattform with 5% market share anyway.
I only foresee a future in which nothing important changes.. Apart from my mention of augmented reality. Huh...
So I'm imaging the massive backlash to and the back peddling by Apple at the moment?
The new MBPs have the fastest processors compared to the old ones.. Big shock there. Hence why Apple spent the entire keynote looking at the past.. No vision of the future at all.
Time to be honest here. These are plugging the hole solutions. That has been Apple for the last five years.
Phil Schiller said that they kept the headphone jack in because pros use it, then take out a feature that pros use. Apologists respond by saying it doesn't matter because only pros use it.
I for one uses it 70% of the time I use my MBP
(as I use it 70% of the time closed and hooked to my audio amp through optical audio)
What's more, I explicitly asked if it was there before ordering a 13" on the Apple store chat, the answer was yes, asked for a second confirmation as it was not in the specs, the answer was "yes I got it confirmed from someone else" ...
Still have the chat session ...
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Do you work for the company? Or do you like attention?
They have the right to complain because they like Apple products, but they do not like where they are heading.
If you look at the competition they provide much more but unfortunately they do not run Apple OS. I can see the frustration. If they ask you to jump, you would.