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New MacBook Pro Reviews: Scary Fast, But M3 Pro Chip Has a Catch

nathan_reilly said:
Yeah, exactly. Give me an apple silicon chip I can render with, and I will use it. Up until this point there is still nothing that compelling for my use case.
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It mostly went down to Blender devs not willing to move. Apple even had to step in and submit their own code to Blender around the time M2 came out. But still it's all in the hands of Blender devs.

I've heard Redshift is more stable on M chips though. Idk how credible it is, just a talk from reddit.
 
Malus120 said:
Fully enabled M3 Max is actually looking pretty good, even
Monstrous in some tests.

Apple doesn’t seem to have widely sampled the M3 Pro (or binned M3 Max although that’s to be expected) which is worrying to say the least and honestly kinda ****** since they go on sale tomorrow…

Obviously more data is needed to draw firm conclusions but a good start at least for the max (and M3 which is about where expected)
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To be fair, headlines and reviews about Intel and AMD's latest chips invariably focused on top spec i9 chips, as opposed to the more consumer focused i5 and i7 variants (and their AMD equivalents).
 
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One thing I've curious about is the 'anodisation seal' which prevents fingerprints. It's great to hear it actually works but is this just olephobic coating that we see on phone screens and will rub off over time, or something different that will be lasting.

I guess we'll have to wait to find out but I'm curious about what it actually is.
 
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eropko said:
It mostly went down to Blender devs not willing to move. Apple even had to step in and submit their own code to Blender around the time M2 came out. But still it's all in the hands of Blender devs.

I've heard Redshift is more stable on M chips though. Idk how credible it is, just a talk from reddit.
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I'm in the Keyshot camp and the performance is just not there compared to AMD threadripper.
 
Yeah not a fan of the M3 Pro being 1.5x the M3. They're really trying to push people to the M3 Max which is greedy.

The full M3 Pro should be 2x the M3. 8P cores and 8 E cores and 20 GPU cores. The binned one should be 6P and 6E and 16 GPU Cores which would be 1.5x the M3.
 
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VisceralRealist said:
M3 and M3 Max are significant leaps forward.

M3 Pro is a disappointment. The "middle option" doesn't seem as appealing anymore. If they can get a 20% CPU performance improvement out of M3 and 50% out of the Max, then only 6% for the Pro is inexcusable. The Pro shouldn't be the "ugly stepchild" that makes you go for the Max. Prior to M3, it was a significant improvement over the base chip and was a true "middle of the road" option. It doesn't seem to be anymore.
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Keep in mind those are multicore scores, and probably due to the change in the P/E-core allotments. Single-threaded performance did see a bigger improvement. I’d guess the motivation here was to lower power consumption for the M3 Pro, and further speculate that the next iPad Pro might adopt it to differentiate from the Air. (And of course, yes, nudging more self-gauged users to shell out for the M3 Max isn’t an unwanted side effect for Tim!)
 
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adamw said:
Scary fast indeed, especially for the M3 Max Macs. I look forward to a M3 Max Mac Studio, that should be about as fast or faster than a M2 Ultra Mac Studio in CPU operations, with a more powerful GPU than M1 Max or M2 Max also!

The best review of the M3 Max MacBook Pro I have seen so far (with extensive comparison Benchmarks) is the Tech Chap one here:

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So the M3 Pro is only 6% faster than the M2 Pro? Guess I don't need to wait on the M3 Pro Mac mini...The current M2 Pro will do just fine.
 
Unami said:
really, that's what pros use the GPU for nowadays? In my days, the GPU was rather used for modelling/real time 3D preview.

Anyway, nearly every professional I know who needs a really beefy GPU is using them for computing/machine learning/AI Stuff.
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Okay well I was a bit overly all-encompassing with my statement. Yes, ML/Ai are other big areas. The 3D rendering/animation scene has been jamming in the GPU rendering area, especially for "the person at home" for quite a while now. It's been a game changer.
 
Sir_Macs_A_Lot said:
So the M3 Pro is only 6% faster than the M2 Pro? Guess I don't need to wait on the M3 Pro Mac mini...The current M2 Pro will do just fine.
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gains are certainly in the max versions.

I can see the max models being the ones to get big gains going forward as well.
 
Apple sent a "base" MacBook Pro 14" to The Verge for review (and sent a CTO 16gb ram and 1TB storage) If the measly base storage and ram are sufficient why are they sending media the specced up version? Even apple knows that 8gb is not enough ram!
 
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eropko said:
Imagine sleeping in a cave for a year and still not knowing about game porting toolkit.
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I bought into the hype and tried Diablo 4 and CP2077, both were horrible, stuttery, and unstable messes on my M1Max MBP 16. I'm still waiting for AAA game studios announcing new ports being made with the toolkit, but it's been crickets since the release.
 
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