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Well that's great news. I do miss my time estimated though, even if it was inaccurate. If I saw I had 90% battery life and only have it say I have 2 hours left, I knew I was doing something that was eating the battery FAST.

Sigh, oh well.
 
This article is stupid. It's a subjective matter. Battery life determines what and how you use it. What apps are being used? If it was editing, you would expect the mac to die with 4-5 hrs.
 
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CoconutBattery app is susceptible to the placebo effect? What amazing AI!
If people are getting better battery life then that's fantastic. But if power-saving features were added, this would have been mentioned in the release notes. :)
 
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I often wonder how many of these "poor battery life" complaints are due to Spotlight indexing all the new stuff that just got dumped onto the machine when people upgrade to a new laptop, and then when spotlight is done doing its thing, battery life goes back to normal.. which may coincidentally coincide with a minor OS update. :)
 
Lol, how would they know? I mean unless they are sitting their with a stopwatch it is all subjective. And now that Apple removed any time related battery life information, its even more subjective.

If you say that a laptop will last 3 hours but it dies after 1.5 then users will feel that the battery life doesn't last that long.

If you no longer show the laptop will last 3 hours and a user does 1.5 hours of work in blissful ignorance then it feels like it is lasting longer.

Time is all relative, especially when you don't know what time it is.

This was Apple's plan all along. Without any real evidence its all just circumstantial and the warped reality field Apple creates around its products is extended a little further.

Because they're using apps which tell them how much battery life is left and its changed.

More importantly, at idle, half the wattage is being used - so something has been fixed.
 
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I don't know why Apple can't just admit there was a problem. They are so secretive about issues with their products.

NO ONE IS PERFECT. It's okay to admit there is a problem and fix it. It's even better to tell users "We are aware of this issue and a fix is coming." Heck, that would reduce anxiety, knowing your problem will be fixed soon, instead of lingering for months.
 
I don't know why Apple can't just admit there was a problem. They are so secretive about issues with their products.

NO ONE IS PERFECT. It's okay to admit there is a problem and fix it. It's even better to tell users "We are aware of this issue and a fix is coming." Heck, that would reduce anxiety, knowing your problem will be fixed soon, instead of lingering for months.

How can Apple fix having smaller batteries? o_O
 
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I often wonder how many of these "poor battery life" complaints are due to Spotlight indexing all the new stuff that just got dumped onto the machine when people upgrade to a new laptop, and then when spotlight is done doing its thing, battery life goes back to normal.. which may coincidentally coincide with a minor OS update. :)

Not just spotlight these days either, migration assistant for transferring, iCloud drive for downloading and syncing documents, icloud for all the contacts/bookmarks/settings, Photos does it's facial and object recognition on a per machine basis so there's also that - and probably 3rd party tools like Dropbox etc syncing for the first time at the start (even if its just to check its got all the files it needs on the new system)
 
See! Removing time remaining does help battery life.

It's the same on my Apple Watch. I had the battery showing in the complications and it ran the battery down faster then when it was not visible.
 
It's just not an accurate estimate. You used to be able to set it to show that number all the time in the top bar, but Apple got rid of that a while ago.
Funny thing is, Apple thought that estimate was accurate enough for the longest time to keep that feature, even after App Nap and whatever energy saving features were introduced.

Only after users began (rightfully, as I might notice) complain that Apple's claims regarding the new rMBPs battery life were plain and simply wrong, they suddenly decide to remove it. Strange coincidence.
 
I guess removing "time remaining" did the trick. And I bet Tim and Phil are laughing their a$$e$ off right about now.

Never mind, right about now, Tim is sitting next to Peter Thiel at Trump Tower with a sad Pepe the Frog face on.
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you'll be amazed at how removing the time estimate creates a placebo for improved battery life
Really?
 
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I hate to be right! but I did say its was software related.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...t-limited-battery-life.2019376/#post-24015820
Great news for a change, maybe apple are finally 'turning the corner'.

Warren Buffett doesn't panic as per usual.
Haha, yep. Now everyone who flipped their lid and returned it in an angry storm are like...humm, may have over-reacted a bit. Damn, that was a really nice machine. Ugh....then they return to posting all things skeptical and negative to balance their emotions out and make them feel better.
 
Stop ******** on Apple all the time MR posters. Apple employees are not stupid. Get some balance on how you view things..Gain some self control before you post

If this battery issue was in the Windows world, you'd be completely on your own. To those threatening to make the jump - go and good luck
Smartest post all week. We have some wackos commenting on the front page here
 
Stop ******** on Apple all the time MR posters. Apple employees are not stupid. Get some balance on how you view things..Gain some self control before you post

If this battery issue was in the Windows world, you'd be completely on your own. To those threatening to make the jump - go and good luck

What's wrong with posting the truth? If you're a true customer of a company, and not an EMPLOYEE of Apple, you probably wont even say something like this.
 
Could be that the time estimating algorithm was a very poorly optimized piece of software, because the engineers at Apple had thought "why would anybody check this every 5 minutes?" and so it was left by itself to drain all the battery.
 
Funny thing is, Apple thought that estimate was accurate enough for the longest time to keep that feature, even after App Nap and whatever energy saving features were introduced.

Only after users began (rightfully, as I might notice) complain that Apple's claims regarding the new rMBPs battery life were plain and simply wrong, they suddenly decide to remove it. Strange coincidence.

That's really not true though. Apple removed it from the prominent battery icon display in OS X 10.9 Mavericks, 3 years ago. They buried it in the battery menu at that time. Back then, people noted it wasn't accurate. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-battery-icon-cant-show-time-remaining-anymore.1660335/

This time they got of it entirely, even from the buried battery menu.
 
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