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Sweet. Of course, this was to be expected. All this gnashing of teeth and predicting/hoping for the demise of Apple is just stupidity.
 
Amazing how much trouble they could have saved themselves and customers if they just worked to fix the major issues like this before release, it's only a few weeks more. Makes more sense to me than releasing an under-baked product and having hell to pay with bad press, returns, complaints...
 
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Funny thing is, Apple thought that estimate was accurate enough for the longest time to keep that feature, even after App Nap and whatever energy saving features were introduced.

Only after users began (rightfully, as I might notice) complain that Apple's claims regarding the new rMBPs battery life were plain and simply wrong, they suddenly decide to remove it. Strange coincidence.

I should add that Apple may have kept it in, buried in that battery menu, for users who have Macbooks that don't support the power saving features. I believe anyone using a Sandy-Bridge or earlier CPU doesn't support some of those, and for them the battery time remaining estimates might be a bit more accurate.
 
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Pure PLACEBO! You remove the way to measure something and then people overestimate it. Devious psychological tricks 101. Well done Timmy!
 
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My, there are a lot of insulting people in this post.

How many times do people have to post that while the time remaining has been removed from the task bar, it still exists in activity monitor and other battery monitor apps.

My results, while antecdotal, are not from a stupid person. I've been in tech for 30 years as a software engineer. I've run the tools that give me the numbers I base my posts on, and while I'm not running a formal script so I've got exact numbers I'm doing the exact same thing each time I test. Yes, I do use a stopwatch, or an app that runs as my stopwatch. I look at the wattage used, the % of battery, the activity monitor, the energy consumption and lots of different 'time remaining' statistics, and while that only shows the surface of what affects the battery (duh), for whatever reason, my battery performance is better than it was in 10.12.2. Knowing how software is developed, it's most likely that battery issues are mainly software driven by 'sloppy' programming code that runs the processor unneccessarily.And yes I understand small battery size and usage variables and how you can't put 10 pounds of ### in a 5 pound bag. Others here can do that just fine on their own.
 
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Stop ******** on Apple all the time MR posters. Apple employees are not stupid. Get some balance on how you view things..Gain some self control before you post

If this battery issue was in the Windows world, you'd be completely on your own. To those threatening to make the jump - go and good luck

It is getting progressively more tiring to read every single article on this site get clogged up with the same repetitive whinges about Tim Cook and Apple. I've hardly logged on here all day - it feels like the enthusiasts are being chased away.
 
The MacBook Pro bad news train has pulled into the station! Seriously glad to see some good news for a change. I'm happy for the early adopters who got hosed while beta testing things. With the graphics issue also being resolved (hopefully) things are looking a little better. Still crappy that they removed that battery indicator.
 
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probably due to the GPU being throttled down
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If this battery issue was in the Windows world, you'd be completely on your own. To those threatening to make the jump - go and good luck
yes because Lenovo, Dell, HP, Sony and every other PC maker does this. This is how they keep customers and stay in business, by leaving their customers "on their own" over and over again.:rolleyes:
 
It totally fixed mine, at least over the last few days. Consistently getting twice the battery time as before the update using Beta/Deb build 6
 
Woah ...

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Lol, how would they know? I mean unless they are sitting their with a stopwatch it is all subjective. And now that Apple removed any time related battery life information, its even more subjective.

If you say that a laptop will last 3 hours but it dies after 1.5 then users will feel that the battery life doesn't last that long.

If you no longer show the laptop will last 3 hours and a user does 1.5 hours of work in blissful ignorance then it feels like it is lasting longer.

Time is all relative, especially when you don't know what time it is.

This was Apple's plan all along. Without any real evidence its all just circumstantial and the warped reality field Apple creates around its products is extended a little further.

You could actually still look at the estimated time within the Activity Monitor.
 
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Having a good role model

Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me.10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
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I admire the way the haters are making up a placebo effect. You guys were perfectly okay with jumping on the 'Apple is Doomed' train immediately when people started having battery problems, now you can't be satisfied by an fix for it.
Unnoted or not in the release notes, it makes no sense that the removal of a stupid time indicator would cause people to think battery life is automatically better. Logically, the battery life would be worst if the problem was not resolved because of the update and reindexing that come after it.
Just immaturity and stupidity throughout this forum.
 
I wish their was a "down vote" choice for all the negative responses from the anti-Apple trolls on this forum. So it's anecdotal, placebo effect when something is improved but it's fact if it's negative?
I have been plenty critical of Apple at times but some of you are ridiculous. You should go play in traffic with Google maps clutching Surface 4's.
 
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