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New MacBook Pro Users Report Improved Battery Life on macOS 10.12.2

Red Oak said:
Stop ******** on Apple all the time MR posters. Apple employees are not stupid. Get some balance on how you view things..Gain some self control before you post

If this battery issue was in the Windows world, you'd be completely on your own. To those threatening to make the jump - go and good luck
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Leave Britney aloneeeeee
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pat500000 said:
This article is stupid. It's a subjective matter. Battery life determines what and how you use it. What apps are being used? If it was editing, you would expect the mac to die with 4-5 hrs.
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No. There were just...an incredible amount of people who only used safari lightly and were still getting crap battery life. So get out of here with that apologist nonsense. There were real issues.
 
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smoledman said:
Thank god Surface exists to make Apple up their game!
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Yes! Surface Pro 4 with much slower cpus, significantly slower SSD, dimmer display with old-tech narrow sRGB color gamut, slower graphics, 5-6 hour battery, slower Bluetooth 4.0 (instead of 4.2), slower last generation USB 3.0 I/O, and...Windows 10 for the ultimate win!
 
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Ghost31 said:
Leave Britney aloneeeeee
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No. There were just...an incredible amount of people who only used safari lightly and were still getting crap battery life. So get out of here with that apologist nonsense. There were real issues.
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What the hell are you talking about? It's your imagination that battery life would end quick. Different usage drain battery different rate.
 
va1984 said:
I'm sorry to say that for me at least the update did not fix the graphics issue. This was taken this morning, after the update was installed, on a non-TouchBar MacBook Pro.

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Yikes. If you have not done so, try resetting the SMC, PRAM and NVRAM. If the resets don't work, then perhaps a full OS X reinstall. And failing that, you may have a defective MBP. :(

A colleage of mine received a 15" w/ 455 GPU that had some screwy on-screen issues with crazy colors and such. I didn't see it for myself, this was just before I got mine. After talking with Apple and sending them a couple pictures they had him ship it to them -- "captured" the system, rather than letting it simply get returned to store. They were going to order him a replacement, but he opted to take a refund and see how this all sorts itself out. He also had a few other issues like some scratches right from the factory and the Touch ID / power button sat about 1mm higher than it should, not flush with the Touch Bar, and it was very wiggly.

I think there are still some optimizations that need to be made for the GPU drivers on these notebooks. When the GPU kicks in, it burns battery fast, even when not being heavily used. And as some others have reported, the system does not always switch away from the AMD GPU as it should. I've had mine do that here and there. Although, this has been a problem on the MBP's off and on in the past. The graphics switching does not always behave as intended. Goes the other way too, have had it not engage the discreet GPU when needed on some past MBP systems. I think it was OSX 10.9, forced me to keep the graphics switching turned off to where I was always using the high power GPU since the switching was problematic.

Given that this is a new product launch and there were obviously some manufacturing issues early on, many of the complaints or issue reports don't surprise me. Seems like a typical new MBP launch to me. Ultimately I think all the kinks will be worked out. The 2012 to 2015 retina MBP has become a solid workhorse of a system after a little bit of a rocky start. Odd thing was the 2011 15" that launched prior to the retina model had it far worse -- constant GPU issues and even an out of warranty logic board replacement program. I had one of those and replaced the screen once and the logic board twice (for graphics issues eerily similar to what we see in your video). All under warranty/AppleCare for me, but I know there were reports of people paying to fix and then Apple subsequently refunding costs.
 
Cwolk said:
What's the best free battery monitor app for Mac?
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The OS X Activity Monitor does a respectable job, even gives you an estimated time remaining, tells you how much power each app or process is using. And is of course included as part of OS X. The battery meter and % are still available on the OS X top bar as always.
 
EDIT: half of you make this forum just gross. To those offering enjoyment and insights - thanks.
  • The battery life is better with this update but it was also fine before.
  • The previous 'percentage left' was so unbelievably flaky that Apple should have never released it
  • Those on the fence you've got nothing to worry about - these machines easily blow away the 2015 models in every way
To everyone else, stop complaining about every little thing - these new MacBook pros are incredible.
 
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Ghost31 said:
Leave Britney aloneeeeee
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No. There were just...an incredible amount of people who only used safari lightly and were still getting crap battery life. So get out of here with that apologist nonsense. There were real issues.
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Where did that quote come from again?

Also, you're quoting a guy that previous bashed on Apple in the previous thread about Battery life. This is considered hate-on-hate crime.
 
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I haven't had the update long enough to confirm, but a number of stability issues I've been dealing with (Spotify refusing to quit when music was playing, Chrome not quitting on shut down, some general instability) have not been an issue for a day. Could be a coincidence. I should run on battery this weekend and see if things improve.
 
Buying and selling on Ebay, and I'm seeing the resale value of MBP's dropping for the first time since 2008. This is happening quite suddenly. These overpriced 2016 models will be getting their asses handed to them in short order, issues or not. It's the economy stupid... the REAL economy, that is.
 
KiwiAdventure said:
My iPhone & iPad only has battery % so whats the problem with laptops having the same. Get over yourselves and move on.
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erutan said:
Hmm. Still getting ~4 hours of actual use on my 2016 15" - I do have a few things running in the background / menu bar, but nothing on activity monitor seems to jump out. 460 but it switches to integrated fine. My idle draw is 8-11w. :/ Wifi on, bluetooth off, no apps open in foreground, screen dimmed. Any suggestions? It's better than the ~2 with my early 2011 (ssd + platter drives via owc, upgraded RAM)

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Everything works fine aside from headphones while bootcamped in Windows 10 (and bootcamp assistant didn't copy over files to internal partition, had to do some jiggling with downloading drivers for my machine on top of an install made from a USB drive on someone else's).
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Duet and Pathfinder? Those are known energy burners, and it does show there. What's your power draw without those?
 
Red Oak said:
Stop ******** on Apple all the time MR posters. Apple employees are not stupid. Get some balance on how you view things..Gain some self control before you post

If this battery issue was in the Windows world, you'd be completely on your own. To those threatening to make the jump - go and good luck
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Your shepherd has misplaced you. Time to go back home.
 
Red Oak said:
Stop ******** on Apple all the time MR posters. Apple employees are not stupid. Get some balance on how you view things..Gain some self control before you post

If this battery issue was in the Windows world, you'd be completely on your own. To those threatening to make the jump - go and good luck
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We are completely on our own, apple removed the tool that showed the problem, it's actually worse than being ignored .....
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dannys1 said:
Turns out the time estimate process was using a constant 5% of an Intel i7 processor just to continually update...
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Across all the macs.....heck remove a bunch of other stuff from OS X and battery improvements will keep coming . :)
 
I just read 7 pages of comments and I found that not even half of those contain useful information. Most are either hate comments to Apple or insulting posts towards each other. Big thanks to users who are providing insights and useful information based on their actual usage of the new OS.

Guys who are using MBPs on this new version of OS, can you please share your experience, so it sheds some light on the topic of this very thread?
  1. Are you still experiencing the graphic issue?
  2. Are you experiencing any improvements on battery life?
  3. If you are using 2015 MBPs, did the new OS seem to improve batter life even better?
 
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Red Oak said:
Stop ******** on Apple all the time MR posters. Apple employees are not stupid. Get some balance on how you view things..Gain some self control before you post

If this battery issue was in the Windows world, you'd be completely on your own. To those threatening to make the jump - go and good luck
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In the Windows world I'd exchange the OEM and keep using my OS and ecosystem of choice without stepping into unsupported territory (hackingtosh).

You should use a Windows PC once in a while, if you don't pick the cheapest **** you'll get proper support and often times without being asked to pay a markup to get more than the little warranty time period poor Apple for example is forced to provide... Oh poor them, 2 years in the EU really is a lot to ask!

Glassed Silver:ios
 
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"While the user reports are worth acknowledging, they remain anecdotal and reflect only a small subset of new MacBook Pro users"

Funny that you weren't saying that when a small subset of new MacBook Pro users were complaining about battery
 
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