Timers don't lie though, beta 6 didn't give me more than 5 hours, ok it's a beta, but there was definitely a difference. Also beta 6 didn't have a estimated time either, so it's nothing to do with that. Now the same timer and some use gives me near 10 hours. That's not a placebo effect.If people are getting better battery life then that's fantastic. But if power-saving features were added, this would have been mentioned in the release notes.
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New MacBook Pro Users Report Improved Battery Life on macOS 10.12.2
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This is pretty stupid.
Subjective? If I'm working for 10 hours with the laptop and it hasn't died, it means it last for at least 10 hours. See? It wasn't that hard.
"Time is all relative, especially when you don't know what time it is."
No, time is not all relative, 1 hour is 1 hour, in the USA, in Europe, in Asia.... And we know what time it is, Apple just deleted the info of battery time remaining, they didn't delete all the space-time system that rules our Universe. At least not yet, wait for next update and we'll see, maybe Tim decides to erease the ozone layer to improve macbook's performance.
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strange thing : on my rMBP 15" mid-2014, max out specs (except 512Gb SSD drive), i've had all the sierra beta's, lastely the stable 10.12.2 release, and the battery % is still very much visible (and "Show percentage" still available in the battery menulet).
Still don't understand why Apple didn't just 'fudge' the Time Remaining.
If the MacBook Pro is advertised as 12hr battery.
Then 100% = 12hrs Remaining
50% = 6hrs Remaining
25% = 3hrs Remaining etc...
Whether the battery lasts that long or not is down to what apps people use anyway.
But every time you charge your MacBook Pro to 100% the time remaining is alway 12hrs.
Problem solved.
If the MacBook Pro is advertised as 12hr battery.
Then 100% = 12hrs Remaining
50% = 6hrs Remaining
25% = 3hrs Remaining etc...
Whether the battery lasts that long or not is down to what apps people use anyway.
But every time you charge your MacBook Pro to 100% the time remaining is alway 12hrs.
Problem solved.
Oh really? but if a small subset of users as you say have poor battery life then it is not anecdotal.
Please educate yourself.
Welcome to Mac Rumors! haha.
To answer your questions though.
1. No graphics glitches for me what so ever in this version of 10.12.1 - I have the Radeon 460, in stark constast my friend who ordered the same spec with 2TB ssd and arrived on the same day is featured in most of the videos on here with the weird liquid like graphics glitch that goes away as soon as he clicks the "color profile" tab in settings still has the same issue - though it only happens after he installs Adobe products.
2. Haven't tested battery life properly before or after to be honest, at least i've not timed it or kept an eye on it, i'm nearly always on power - i've been quite happy with battery life the times I have unplugged it though.
3. Performance been consistent for me - this computer handles everything much better than my 2015 model did, its silent even when running Windows under VM and a bunch of other things, as soon as I wanted VMWare my 2015 model sounded like a vacuum cleaner.
To be fair 2015 is basically just as silent. The fans don't start spinning until it's ~70 degrees.
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When i had 2014 model with El Capitan i could squeeze 8 hours out of it (browsing and video watching) with Sierra it went down to 5 hours, but the battery was at around 300 cycles at that time.
Now i have 2015 model for a month and with Sierra browsing and watching videos gets me no more than 6 hours.
Rubbish! Utter rubbish!
Averaging out over a longer period will average out these power spikes and give you the mean power drain over time. There is no reason this won't work accurately. And be useful.
Ironic that you commented in the same box about someone else not having a sense of humour. Did you THINK about that? LOL. Here's another word for you - hypocrite.
That estimate was very accurate for me as well. Give or take 30 minutes.
One thing that is inaccurate also is the battery cycle count. For at least, I can't believe I'm sitting at 45 cycles already, thus already spent ~ 5*45 = 225 hours with this machine since november 23th.
Denial? Nope. My POS TB MBP is still shutting down after ~4 hours of regular surfing and emailing with no other apps running besides iMessage and screen set at 70%. Again, not sure who these magical people are who are managing "up to ten hours," but I apparently am not one of them.It seems like people are only here to hate.. they shut up when its good news, or in denial.
MR has turned into a kindergarten imho.
On topic: Great news, now i might not wait until revision 2 of this macbook
Yes, I'm mad, because all of the earlier posts got my hopes up that 12.2 would fix this ridiculous battery life, only to let me down. So now I'm mad and feel duped. Merry Christmas.
I'm currently getting 43 hours on battery life!
Ok, well actually this was after waking up from up sleep mode with a mere 0.4W usage. - It already downgraded to 43 minutes with 23% charge left. However, Spotlight is indexing which consumes a lot of energy.
By the way: In activity monitor you can still see the remaining battery life. They only removed it from the menu bar item.
Ok, well actually this was after waking up from up sleep mode with a mere 0.4W usage.
- It already downgraded to 43 minutes with 23% charge left. However, Spotlight is indexing which consumes a lot of energy.By the way: In activity monitor you can still see the remaining battery life. They only removed it from the menu bar item.
Could this be another ruse like the iPhone signal issue where they changed the algorithm to show more bars while not actually helping in any way to boost the reception of the phone, just more dropped calls with more bars.
Apple forgot to mention that CPU and GPU performance were cut by 50% in order to get longer battery life. 10.12.3 will remove the activity monitor so people won't be able to tell...
Yeah I just heard manufacturers are doing this to maximise battery life, while its smart when doing simpler stuff, this is should be false advertising when you pay for a specific GPU specs and its only limited to 70% of performance just to maximise battery life.
I think you are confused. The 7 pages of comments are in response to a news article posted on MR. It's up for public opinion so people will do so.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you're looking in the wrong place if you wanted a place to share your experiences with others. Instead, you might want to start a post in the correct forum, namely the Macbook Pro or possibly the macOS forums. Lots of techie's there to "share your experience" with.
Trust me, it's no where near as silent - I have both. The 2015 model also has terrible cooling and throttling - it runs much slower on CPU intensive tasks as it has to keep throttling back to prevent overheating.
My 2015 is a dog with the fans too, they're always on, i've reset PRAM, had them replaced, nothing, its much louder than my 2013 was. But both are blown away by the thermal cooling and ahh TOTAL SILENCE of the 2016 model. It's a joy.
Isn't that how the world works? When people are unhappy with an issue, they make noise. When things are going great, you don't hear a word. Right now, people are unhappy with Apple. Makes sense to me.It seems like people are only here to hate.. they shut up when its good news, or in denial.
MR has turned into a kindergarten imho.
On topic: Great news, now i might not wait until revision 2 of this macbook
