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New MacBook Pro with Pixs

glossy, no thanks!

MBX said:
LOL can you imagine doing serious video or photoshop work when using floating point dark areas and then your reflection is covering it?

LOL way to go apple. That's really "pro" of you and your love for glossy.
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I was really looking forward to a new MBP to replace my iMac, but after I saw this.....:mad: Now I hope Apple will realize that not everything is about design and make also matt screens.
Since when is there no choice, but this horrible glossy ?! I see the improvements and I like them in the shape and specs, but it's the screen that turned me away. Maybe WWDC '09 new screens will follow.
 
I Must stop looking at these threads, my MBP is not even 6 Months old, im truly happy with it, but damn the new MBP looks that little bit better.

I'll have to make my self wait until January '10 atleast, its gonna be a struggle though :p
 
uiop. said:
Congrats on the new MBP...looks amazing.

Can I ask what you plan to do with the old one? I want to upgrade to the new one as well but don't know how to get rid of my current one. Grr...
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Going to try Craigslist first. Then I guess Ebay. Usually if your patient they go, Mine has AppleCare and 4gb ram so I'm hoping that will help.
 
ggjstudios said:
Having said that, I may be alone in this, but I prefer the old MBP. I don't like the glossy of the new one, and I don't like the black border around the screen or the black keyboard. I think it cheapens the look. I don't know why they can't offer options for different color keyboards: black, white, silver. Also, I don't know why the wide black border around the screen is necessary. Why not fill the screen to the edge? Or let the color of the border be user-definable? The black just takes away from the sleek futuristic look of the aluminum, in my opinion.
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I feel the same way - I've got an "old" matte MBP and am not fond of the glossy screen or black border & keyboard. I've had a habit of upgrading my MBP's over the years with just about every update and this will be the first time I'm not doing it.

I went into the Apple store tonight to check one out and while I will admit - it does look better in person (as opposed to the pictures everyone online), its definitely still not for me. I might eventually be able to get used to the glossy screen, but I definitely could not get used to the black border and the smudges.. I'm constantly wiping down my cell phone and iPhone screen, even my Matte screen gets cleaned off way too frequently and that barely shows fingerprints. The worst part about that is, there would almost always be one right over the camera lens since thats where you'd put your finger to open it.

I also still can't get used to the look of the black keyboard... I think they might've helped themselves out a little by making the keyboard white instead of Black (although silver would still be ideal) - at least the iMac keyboard which is white on silver looks classy... (then again, with the black border I get why they had to go w/ the black keyboard.

I don't think at all the "old" MBP looks dated - I think the new one looks newer and more modern, but not necessarily better. I do like the outer casing better on the new ones but unfortunately I don't have $2500 to spend on a laptop that I could keep closed all the time. :)
 
You don't have a neoprene case from incase do you? I am trying to figure out if it fits the new MBPs
 
Congrats on the new machine!

I enjoyed seeing your pics and no offense or anything, but to me I think the previous generation one next to it, sure looked not only more modern in design but a bit nicer quality visually as well. The black plastic keys along with the black border bezel around the screen just don't look as good as the older one you have there being all aluminum. But this is just my opinion and I sure hope you enjoy it and have some great service out of it too.
 
Atomic Ed said:
Congrats on the new machine!

I enjoyed seeing your pics and no offense or anything, but to me I think the previous generation one next to it, sure looked not only more modern in design but a bit nicer quality visually as well. The black plastic keys along with the black border bezel around the screen just don't look as good as the older one you have there being all aluminum. But this is just my opinion and I sure hope you enjoy it and have some great service out of it too.
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Thanks I have been enjoying it. It's all so subjective. One person likes it and one doesn't. I think it is that way with cars, and many other things. My wife doesn't like it either and will keep the previous generation. But, I'm thrilled with it. Anyone else thrilled:)?
 
Im thrilled..

Seriously pumped to get my new macbook pro, estimated delivery is Oct. 22nd. I have been reading these forums for a long time just never posted. Im new to Mac's so this is new and exciting for me. Its amazing the amount of complaining I've read about it not having this or that... personally I think people aren't looking at all of its ingenuity, milled out aluminum unibody case, glass multi-touch pad/button, 0.95 inches thick with 5 hours of battery...come again...wow apple just wow Im glad I decided to switch now, this thing is gorgeous, hands down sexy. This beast is an uprgade in everyway compared to the dell Im typing on.

I ordered 2.53/320hd@7200/4gig Ram/added iWork and MobileMe as well.
Genuinely thrilled to get this package in the mail. Only gripe here is i have to take an EXTRA step in shipping. Currently a student at the Art Institute of Seattle, but Im from Oregon. Apple wants to charge like $235 tax, but not for Oregon. Soooo looks like i get to wait a couple extra days while my parents ship it up to me... now I play the waiting game :cool:
 
teerexx52 said:
Thanks I have been enjoying it. It's all so subjective. One person likes it and one doesn't. I think it is that way with cars, and many other things. My wife doesn't like it either and will keep the previous generation. But, I'm thrilled with it. Anyone else thrilled:)?
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I couldn't agree more, its each to their own, everyone has their own tastes. I'm not trying to convince anyone it's looks better then the old MBP, this is just my personal preference.

The one thing i will say is the photos don't really do it full justice, hands on its much better.

Yes - i'm thrilled with mine, especially with it being my first Mac (long time user, first time owner :D). I just wish i had a bit more time to get everything on it and start working on it full time! :(
 
to me, the only really negative thing is the mirror effect of the glass. I'm not quite sure why glass is advantageous compared to regular gloss coating, but the new ones seem too reflective if you can't control your lighting and want to have lower brightness to save battery. I suspect that at full brightness, the screen will be acceptable even in mixed lighting environments.And, of course, it will be beautiful watching DVDs in the dark! Still, given that this is supposed to be a 'pro' laptop, Apple ought to offer an alternative for those who prefer matte.

I think it's just about money. Most manufacturers are producing primarily glossy displays these days and I can imagine that the matte are costing more, or, rather, glossy is becoming cheaper because of scale of production.
 
underattack said:
- the monitor tilts back A LOT more then the old one (Great!)
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That is super awesome news. Can someone with both new and old MBPs post a comparison photo? And tell us what kind of old MBP it is; the LED backlit ones didn't tilt back as far as the "normal" ones.
 
to the owners of the new MBP:

I read in another thread some complains about the screen hinges being a little lose, in such way that if you tilt the MPB a little more the lid shuts close.


Any info on that?
 
teerexx52 said:
But, I'm thrilled with it. Anyone else thrilled:)?
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The new MacBook Pro looks better. The only Mac that might be compared to the new MacBook Pro is the Titanium PowerBook G4 (in my opinion).
Titanium PowerBook G4 and the new MacBook/Pros are the best designed and best looking Mac laptops ever.:)

By the way, congratulations to all the people who bought a MacBook Pro in this thread. :)
 
I've had most models of PowerBooks/MacBook Pros. I got the MBP 2.53GHz yesterday morning. After a day so far I'm loving it. I really really wish they offered a hi-res 1680x1050 screen the same size, but such is life.

The build quality is great. I love the ports and disc arrangement (never really like the front loading drive when using it as a laptop). I gave up on the previous 15" due to screen quality issues and went to the 17" hi-res (matte). But the screen on the new model seems very good. Not perfect but none of the yellowing / banding issues I saw before. I color calibrated it and it seems almost as good as the 17" hi-res. I'm still adapting to the new trackpad. I have a habit of using use fingers on the trackpad button, but that doesn't work too well on the new one if you click on drag (the two fingers seem to trigger it to try to scroll). But this is the real annoyance so far.

There seem to be those inherently opposed to the gloss. But I think it look and works great. Overall I prefer it slightly to the matte displays.

I agree with a previous point. The two best build Mac laptops to me seem to be the PowerBook G4 Titanium (I loved that machine) and the new MBP. I far prefer this to the previous design. I was really concerned about going back to the smaller screen, but I'm loving it so far.
 
PuckDaddy said:
I tell ya what would have been slick
tinting the aluminum black, then the keys and the bezel soak in, but still seem to float. they've got the iPod in a variety of colors, so why can't they make an MBP black (or red or purple or whatever ?)
offer them as options in BTO orders


surely someone with some Photoshop skills can mock up a black one of these
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Colorware PC at colorwarepc.com will color a Macbook Pro. Its really expensive and they warranty the product if you buy it from them for a year or they offer an extended. I don't see the new MBP on there yet but you can play with the old one and get an idea. They charge 450ish to do it but you can change the color of the keyboard, the apple, trackpad, and etc. You can even change the bezel. I think you can have portions of the computer done for cheaper than the whole thing.

Its worth checking out if you have the cash and truly want a custom personalized Mac.
 
bcaslis said:
I've had most models of PowerBooks/MacBook Pros. I got the MBP 2.53GHz yesterday morning. After a day so far I'm loving it. I really really wish they offered a hi-res 1680x1050 screen the same size, but such is life.

The build quality is great. I love the ports and disc arrangement (never really like the front loading drive when using it as a laptop). I gave up on the previous 15" due to screen quality issues and went to the 17" hi-res (matte). But the screen on the new model seems very good. Not perfect but none of the yellowing / banding issues I saw before. I color calibrated it and it seems almost as good as the 17" hi-res. I'm still adapting to the new trackpad. I have a habit of using use fingers on the trackpad button, but that doesn't work too well on the new one if you click on drag (the two fingers seem to trigger it to try to scroll). But this is the real annoyance so far.

There seem to be those inherently opposed to the gloss. But I think it look and works great. Overall I prefer it slightly to the matte displays.

I agree with a previous point. The two best build Mac laptops to me seem to be the PowerBook G4 Titanium (I loved that machine) and the new MBP. I far prefer this to the previous design. I was really concerned about going back to the smaller screen, but I'm loving it so far.
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Good luck with your machine. Gloss is ok with me as well:)
 
To the OP: All I could notice was you use the same igoogle theme as I do. :) And, you have a nice microwave... :)

But seriously, I really love the manufacturing precision and strength of the new MBP frames, but to my eye the previous version just looks more sophisticated and refined, and less like a typical PC I see all the time in Staples or Office Depot. Black keyboard is not new, folks. My old Thinkpad (circa 2000) had black keyboard, and most PCs I've seen had black keyboards until they started copying Apple. Some models of Toshiba had silver keys, and even now I've seen an HP notebook with actual metal keys (very nice) but the Sony's and others with chicklet keys in black just looked cheap, and stamped out, like something you would see on a kiddie computer - sorry, that's just my impression. They don't look expensive or upscale in any way at all. The black bezel around the screen just looks like any other PC notebook, but I guess that's the way Apple's going since there are now so many PC converts. First, Intel, next, the PC look. Too bad.

I have no doubt the new MBPs are well made, and I'm would really appreciate the changes for the better, but am unable to get behind the changes of appearance and function just for the sake of current fashion, which as we all know, only lasts as long as last week. What ever happened to the colorful iMacs? Or the gooseneck iMac? They're all gone. Glossy everything will eventually be replaced when it starts driving people mad, and the trendy folks steer away from it. Then, matte will be back, soft colors, non-shiny textures, etc. Just wait and see. But, the keyboard has basically had time to evolve - the human hands don't change.

What actual improvement (other than looks and cost) have been made to the keyboard. It's not like there hasn't been enough time in history to have figured this out. IBM certainly had keyboards down, at least as far as most serious keyboard users/typists would probably acknowledge, and their experiences go way back to typewriters. It's all about the right shapes, spacing, texture and key weight, responsiveness, and tactile feedback, and durability for some serious pounding. Chicklet keyboards do not address any of these issues, other than being cheaper to make. How does black make a statement, fashion-wise? It's most likely that it's cheaper to make.

[Brainstorm at Apple: "Hey! I've got it! Why don't we make the keys on the keyboards... black! That should generate some excitement, right? Wow! I can't believe after all this pondering I actually came up with this brilliant idea. The consumers will just love it, and it will make us stand out from the crowd. I can't wait to see the look on Steve's face. Maybe he'll give me a mention at MW 2009, in the same breath as he mentions Jon (Ive.)"]
 
The old MBP in the pics has a bluer tint than the new one which really throws the white balance off. White balance is above and beyond THE most critical factor when it comes to accuracy. Yes a glossy screen may make colours slightly more saturated and blacks "blacker", but the truth is, a diplay that shows colours warmer/colour than they actually are is far more of a problem.

Great comparison shots, the new MBP looks great :)
 
Sorry, I am still disgusted by the new look. Glossy screen aside, it looks like a frankenstein laptop.
 
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