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New MacBook Pro's have bad nVidia chips says Inq

jjahshik32 said:
Good God that charlie guy is annoying to make Nvidia look to be the bad guy again. The inquirer has nothing else better to do or any other stories to cover but to attack Nvidia. I guess you do whatever you can to get more readers by milking the nvidia 8600m gt issues and link them to the other gpu cards.

I think I would trust Nvidia's engineers more than Charlie, especially after the previous gen gpu issue that almost got them bankrupt.
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Why...because it'll make you feel better. Nvidia has a massive PR problem now and people are gonna go after them. Once you lie and are found out...you've just asked for a lot of trouble
 
jjahshik32 said:
Good God that charlie guy is annoying to make Nvidia look to be the bad guy again. The inquirer has nothing else better to do or any other stories to cover but to attack Nvidia. I guess you do whatever you can to get more readers by milking the nvidia 8600m gt issues and link them to the other gpu cards.

I think I would trust Nvidia's engineers more than Charlie, especially after the previous gen gpu issue that almost got them bankrupt.
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Go tell these guys http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1767221
that they are delusional and being part of an Inquirer conspiracy against Nvidia and go tell them to trust Nvidia.
If the Inquirer had nothing to stand on, don't you think they would have been sued or that Nvidia would be screaming at the top of their lungs?
 
eth said:
Go tell these guys http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1767221
that they are delusional and being part of an Inquirer conspiracy against Nvidia and go tell them to trust Nvidia.
If the Inquirer had nothing to stand on, don't you think they would have been sued or that Nvidia would be screaming at the top of their lungs?
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Seriously. I don't care if its underfill, overfill, bad bumps or freak accidents. Whatever the case, the 9600 is currently a "bag of hurt" as Jobs would put it. I've already had my logic board replaced once due to the 9600 and have a horrible feeling its going to be happening frequently until someone fesses up.

After NVIDIA's current reputation of lies about the 8600 cards, being busted for price fixing, etc. I'm not willing to just shrug off any evidence. Neither should apple.
 
ATI is looking better every day.

The fact that all the next rev. Imac's and Mini's are going Nvidia–:eek:

Apple, what is your beef with ATI?

Everyone, why is there not more ATI stuff in Apple computers, and all computers in general, these days?

Sure, ATI is not perfect, but compared to the compounding Nvidia train-wrecks of late....
 
eth said:
Go tell these guys http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1767221
that they are delusional and being part of an Inquirer conspiracy against Nvidia and go tell them to trust Nvidia.
If the Inquirer had nothing to stand on, don't you think they would have been sued or that Nvidia would be screaming at the top of their lungs?
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What does Charlie and the Inquirer know anyway and pulling out a multi million dollar equipment out of their ass all of a sudden and his own set up engineers that cannot be named?? Oh c'mon, you can clearly see that he's milking the story to this generation's chipset.

I know Nvidia has messed up with the 8600m gt cards but they have officially admitted and announced the problems and concluded that they fixed the problems with the 9600m gt cards. I very much rather trust Nvidia's engineers than to trust Charlie's unnamed ones any day.

Also I'm sure Nvidia's engineers know exactly what the problems were that caused them 200+ millions last year and wont make that mistake again.

Just because Charlie saids so doesnt mean that its correct, I'm sure his explanations are not very accurate results or whatever was causing the problems, whether it is the bumps, underfills or a specific material or even the manufacturing process was flawed with the 8600m gt that they fixed with the 9600m gt cards.

So far the only issue and not very many people have it (something like 50-100 people out of thousands and thousands of people that bought the new unibody mbp) have the black screen of death and to me that sounds more like a software issue as hardware failures would permanently die, but people just restart their computers and it works just fine.

Also, only when you read about the people having the black screen of death issues are only coming from games, this could easily be a driver issue and the amount of black screen of death issues that customers are having could be the norm defective % like any other hardware would have.

As for the eutectic vs. high lead, I've also read from other engineers that the 9600m gt benefits much more with the power output coming from the lead based as to the eutectic. I'm pretty damned sure that Nvidia's engineers know what their doing to fix the issues that arose from last year's 8600m gt cards and that they dont want to go bankrupt.

As for me, I've had 0 problems the past 2 months with my unibody mbp. I've played everyday anywhere from 3-7 hours of gaming, fallout 3, gothic III, left 4 dead, call of duty 4, bioshock, counterstrike without any problems and never seen this black screen of death as of thousands of others as well.

It is clearly an isolated issue and of course the Inquirer is going to milk the issue to get more readers on charlie's blog. And one thing to note is that link of apple support forums is probably not even more than 30-50 people that are having this issue, even though it has 330 replies it could be the same people putting their 2 cents over and over again.

And I know what your thinking, your thinking that I have had no problems for only 2 months? But if the Inquirer were right on the money and blaming the black screen of death as the hardware failure, then thousands of people would be arguing about their mbp's having the black screen of death issues as the manufacturing process/materials would all be the same, just like last year's 8600m gt cards.
 
jjahshik32 said:
What does Charlie and the Inquirer know anyway and pulling out a multi million dollar equipment out of their ass all of a sudden and his own set up engineers that cannot be named?? Oh c'mon, you can clearly see that he's milking the story to this generation's chipset.

I know Nvidia has messed up with the 8600m gt cards but they have officially admitted and announced the problems and concluded that they fixed the problems with the 9600m gt cards. I very much rather trust Nvidia's engineers than to trust Charlie's unnamed ones any day.

Also I'm sure Nvidia's engineers know exactly what the problems were that caused them 200+ millions last year and wont make that mistake again.

Just because Charlie saids so doesnt mean that its correct, I'm sure his explanations are not very accurate results or whatever was causing the problems, whether it is the bumps, underfills or a specific material or even the manufacturing process was flawed with the 8600m gt that they fixed with the 9600m gt cards.

So far the only issue and not very many people have it (something like 50-100 people out of thousands and thousands of people that bought the new unibody mbp) have the black screen of death and to me that sounds more like a software issue as hardware failures would permanently die, but people just restart their computers and it works just fine.

Also, only when you read about the people having the black screen of death issues are only coming from games, this could easily be a driver issue and the amount of black screen of death issues that customers are having could be the norm defective % like any other hardware would have.

As for the eutectic vs. high lead, I've also read from other engineers that the 9600m gt benefits much more with the power output coming from the lead based as to the eutectic. I'm pretty damned sure that Nvidia's engineers know what their doing to fix the issues that arose from last year's 8600m gt cards and that they dont want to go bankrupt.

As for me, I've had 0 problems the past 2 months with my unibody mbp. I've played everyday anywhere from 3-7 hours of gaming, fallout 3, gothic III, left 4 dead, call of duty 4, bioshock, counterstrike without any problems and never seen this black screen of death as of thousands of others as well.

It is clearly an isolated issue and of course the Inquirer is going to milk the issue to get more readers on charlie's blog. And one thing to note is that link of apple support forums is probably not even more than 30-50 people that are having this issue, even though it has 330 replies it could be the same people putting their 2 cents over and over again.

And I know what your thinking, your thinking that I have had no problems for only 2 months? But if the Inquirer were right on the money and blaming the black screen of death as the hardware failure, then thousands of people would be arguing about their mbp's having the black screen of death issues as the manufacturing process/materials would all be the same, just like last year's 8600m gt cards.
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Aren't you the guy that keeps flip floping on NVIDIA?
 
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