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I cannot begin to fathom why people cover their MacBook webcams with tape, for so many reasons.

1) The camera cannot physically activate without turning on the LED. It just can’t. If the camera has power, the LED has power.

2) If someone has so thoroughly owned your computer that they can spy on you through your webcam, then they already have total access to your system and you’re screwed anyway, so worrying that they’re going to catch you picking your nose while they riffle through every file on your system seems a bit hysterical to me.

3) How do you disable the microphones? Or do you just take extra care to never say anything sensitive within earshot of your MacBook?

It’s all quite silly, isn’t it?
I guess that’s fine if you’re staring at your computer all day and notice the led on. But let’s say you’re a student in your dorm room going about your business, and someone has managed to take control and start recording video and sound.

Still think physical camera barriers are silly?
 
Apple have basically sacrificed the screen on their most professional laptops for the sake of a webcam.

If you think this isn't an issue, stick some black tape on the top of your existing MacBook screen and see if you find it distracting at all.
How’s the notch on your phone doing for you? Distraction?
 
How’s the notch on your phone doing for you? Distraction?
I don't do graphic design/photo/video editing on my phone... (my phone doesn't actually have a notch either).

Notches are an acceptable (but still bad) compromise on consumer products. I could even live with it on the cheaper MacBooks, but after the CPU power, the main point of a MacBook Pro is the screen.

People who just want to use FaceTime don't need a MacBook Pro. Professionals need a seamless high-quality display without distractions.
 
How’s the notch on your phone doing for you? Distraction?
Indeed: If I want to see the battery percentage or the status or non-disturb mode on my iPhone12 Mini, I need to bring the control panel screen just because there's a notch. Poor design, Samsung-worthy, not Apple-worthy.
 
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Apple should add a new "Baby mode" for all the petulant infants crying about "losing screen real estate to the notch." It'll just permanently black out the notch row and you can have your 16:10 MacBook Pro display with enough bezel to house a camera.

Seriously though - look at the MacBook Air. There is 2x the height of the notch in bezel alone for just a webcam. Dell has laptops with smaller top bezels, but you also get a beautiful grainy "1080p" webcam image because the sensor is as small as the original iPhone. Or do like other manufacturers and just ditch the camera entirely.

Look at your Mac, and look at the menubar. Are you really going to miss those blank pixels? For any sane person, no.

Also in the article - compatibility mode refers to the backwards compatible part where the display becomes a 16:10 rectangle. There is no "mode" for putting content around the notch, that is just the default if the developer supports it - enabling compatibility mode would turn it off.
 
They put a notch... on a laptop. Still can’t get over that. LOL.

Yeah. As many have pointed out, it is a very clever design decision, taking into account they can control how macOS uses this extra space. And it also gives it a unique look that everyone is already talking about, so - good job Apple. I like that they are willing to try new things.

And it starts at $2,000 US.

Yes, with a 1600 nit 120hz display, fastest performance, ultrafast SSDs, amazing battery life…. It’s very competitively priced when you think about it.
 
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So now that Apple has proven they understand the concept of "rabbit ears" extending up vs a "notch" cutting into part of the display, will they fix iOS so it behaves the same way and fullscreen video and games aren't obscured any more?
 
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While users and developers come to terms with the fact that the last-minute notch rumor for the new MacBook Pros was true, Apple has released new Human Interface Guidelines explaining how developers can make best use of the extended screen areas around the camera housing if they think their app would benefit from it.

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These images highlight one of the interface ”improvements” of the past half decade that I hate the most, i.e., intentionally letting the controls appear to blend in with the content instead of keeping them as standing out.

Upon the release of ios7 and Yosemite, and even Windows with the introduction of transparency effects, there were some made-up excuses by either Apple or users that allowing the controls to blend in with the content was “less distracting” to the user. 🤮 I.e., color-blending the tool bar, text instead of clear button/activation indications, and flat design monochomatic homogeneity instead of using colors smartly (like before). I find the complete opposite to be true…I find that keeping controls more obvious lends to increased intuitivity of design and efficiency of workflow, and any transparency by windows below the active window, and bleed-in into the controls of the active window is very distracting.

I can live with the notch as long as the screen space remains “the same“ as before, as @Prabas showed in their post, but I’m hoping for the option to keep the top bar black always but without having to be in Dark Mode. :)
 
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Yeah. As many have pointed out, it is a very clever design decision, taking into account they can control how macOS uses this extra space. And it also gives it a unique look that everyone is already talking about, so - good job Apple. I like that they are willing to try new things.



Yes, with a 1600 nit 120hz display, fastest performance, ultrafast SSDs, amazing battery life…. It’s very competitively priced when you think about it.
It’s kind of hard to say whether it’s competitively priced, seeing as how it has no actual competition. There’s nothing else like It on the market.

Given that, the prices they’re asking certainly seem fair.
 


While users and developers come to terms with the fact that the last-minute notch rumor for the new MacBook Pros was true, Apple has released new Human Interface Guidelines explaining how developers can make best use of the extended screen areas around the camera housing if they think their app would benefit from it.

macbook-pro-2021-notch.jpeg

According to the new documentation, the fullscreen mode in macOS Monterey automatically accounts for the camera housing by placing a black bar across the top of the screen to hide the notch and prevent app content from being placed there.

However, macOS also includes a new app "compatibility mode" for MacBooks that include a notched camera housing in the screen bezel. Essentially, the new mode prevents apps from locating content in the notch area when in fullscreen mode, while also allowing them to make use of the screen areas on either side.
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On Macs that have a notch, the Finder automatically adds a checkbox to an app's Get Info panel that can be used to manually enable or disable this new compatibility mode. Alternately, developers can force compatibility mode using new code properties that define the safe area of the screen and allow them to make use the areas on either side of the notch for active content.

The inclusion of a notch allowed Apple to make the bezels on the new 14-and 16-inch MacBook Pros considerably thinner compared to the previous 13-inch and 16-inch models. The new Liquid Retina XDR displays also feature ProMotion technology, which allows the screen to run at as high as 120Hz, and as low as 24Hz, similar to the iPad Pro.

The new MacBook Pros are available to order now and begin shipping next week, but delivery dates for various MacBook Pro configurations have already slipped, with some of the 16-inch MacBook Pro models now listing delivery dates ranging from November 2 to November 16, up from the original October 26 delivery date.

Article Link: New macOS 'Compatibility Mode' Lets Fullscreen Apps Use Area Around Notch
Yes, the notch adds extra screen space but it ruins the whole purpose of the borderless screen. It makes you more aware the border then the old screen with border. The notch is the worst feature of the iPhone and it is a stupid decision to include it here. It cannot be without the wit of the developers to come up with a one way graphics solution such that when not using the camera the notch disappears. They are talking about doing it for facial recognition. Apple normally gives great importance to look and user experience and coolness. The notch is pure engineering and ugly and for those of us for whom the camera is a necessary evil it ruins a good product.I would rather have a pop up camera from the top of the screen.
 
I don't agree with the "extra space" excuse... it is ugly, plain and simple, just like Face ID on iPhones.

It is a product with great value for the creatives, no doubt, but it is also appallingly ugly, which is a big compromise, because creative persons also like beautiful designs. I had plans to purchase a pro model but now I I have to settle with M1 version for another 10 5 years when Apple correct this huge mistake.

I wish they had just kept using the 16inch MacBook Pro design, since it is an update compared with traditional models and it is still beautiful, nobody would have any problem with that at all. WHY? APPLE? WHO DESIGNED THIS MONSTER OF A SCREEN?
 
What Apple did was logical and useful - moving up View attachment 1870966the two used sections of the menu bar to the unused space of the bezel, freeing up precious screen space. Instead of Apple, I would update the OS so that the background of the menu bar can be only black, and then the "notch" would be a none issue.
The example above is when the menu bar is not too overcrowded with icons stuff like dropbox vpn google drive time wifi search, time machine etc etc and on the left an app with many menu items. I guess they'll put an arrow to expand or they'll be obstructed by the notch.
 
I cannot begin to fathom why people cover their MacBook webcams with tape, for so many reasons.

1) The camera cannot physically activate without turning on the LED. It just can’t. If the camera has power, the LED has power.

2) If someone has so thoroughly owned your computer that they can spy on you through your webcam, then they already have total access to your system and you’re screwed anyway, so worrying that they’re going to catch you picking your nose while they riffle through every file on your system seems a bit hysterical to me.

3) How do you disable the microphones? Or do you just take extra care to never say anything sensitive within earshot of your MacBook?

It’s all quite silly, isn’t it?
I would like to hear Edward Snowden's opinion.
 
Plain and simple hideous. And as I normally cover it up with gaffatape it will look even worse.

But what do I care, I can switch to an ARM based computer as I need to be bale to run virtual machines (x86) which is not possible on these things.
You care a lot. Otherwise you wouldn’t be willingly clicking on an article about it
 
I would like to hear Edward Snowden's opinion.
First off, if they have so thoroughly compromised your machine that they can turn the camera on at will, they own you already.

Second, I suppose it is technically in the bounds of theoretical possibility that some state-level hacking group could get into my machine and take it over, just as it’s theoretically possible that I could be hit by falling airplane parts while I’m outside walking my dog … but I’m not gonna wear a helmet every time I step out the front door “just in case.”
 
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But what an horribly looking menu bar!
The menu bar is higher than before, the font size is the same as before, and as a result the menu bar looks terribly wrong. 😞
 
I’m genuinely curious how the ‘notch’ it’s going to affect menu heavy software like After Effects. My tool bar as it is is pretty tight. I’m assuming it will just wrap around the other side, but what happens if there’s not enough room?
 
Because the camera quality is poop on that machine and it also wouldn't have a space ready for Face ID which likely comes next year.
What's the quality of the Macbook camera?

Having space ready for Face ID that might appear in some theoretical future model is purely conjecture at this point. And if it is true, then it was a pretty silly design decision for Apple (who prides itself in aesthetics). This year's MBP isn't magically going to get Face ID in the future. Sure, it keeps costs down for Apple, but does nothing for the customer.

Again, if this is true, then it is tacky... tacky in a Ford Focus with blank knock-outs on the dash on the entry level trim models sort of way.
 
I cannot begin to fathom why people cover their MacBook webcams with tape, for so many reasons.

1) The camera cannot physically activate without turning on the LED. It just can’t. If the camera has power, the LED has power.

2) If someone has so thoroughly owned your computer that they can spy on you through your webcam, then they already have total access to your system and you’re screwed anyway, so worrying that they’re going to catch you picking your nose while they riffle through every file on your system seems a bit hysterical to me.

3) How do you disable the microphones? Or do you just take extra care to never say anything sensitive within earshot of your MacBook?

It’s all quite silly, isn’t it?
I use a camera blocking slider, all of my webcams come with them these days too. It's not about being hacked so much as accidentally turning on the camera in a web conference when I didn't intend to.
 
I use a camera blocking slider, all of my webcams come with them these days too. It's not about being hacked so much as accidentally turning on the camera in a web conference when I didn't intend to.
That makes perfect sense to me, because it sounds like exactly the kind of stupid thing I would do at the worst possible time, but I was specifically talking about people who do it out of hacker paranoia. The fear is way, way overblown in that case.
 
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