New MacPro already

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by rawdawg, Oct 8, 2016.

  1. rawdawg macrumors 6502

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    It's been a few years since I've been active here. I remember there used to be the "waiting for ..." threads. Have we gotten so used to Apple neglecting their Macs that we no longer badger them? Or am I missing some threads. Does anyone have an opinion on if the new Mac Pro's may be announced? Or should we just finally give up on Mac? I am not going to buy a 3 year old machine.
     
  2. Floris macrumors 68020

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    November. And otherwise just consider it discontinued.
     
  3. Ph.D., Oct 8, 2016
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    Ph.D. macrumors 6502

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    I already consider it discontinued. How long should anyone hold out hope? And for what? If one does finally come out, it's almost certain to be perceived as more of the same - a few updated ports and a disappointing graphics boost, and little else.

    There's a limit to human endurance and patience during such an unnecessary, miserable, interminable, grinding wait, and I've passed mine.
     
  4. DeltaMac macrumors G3

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    I think the upcoming "iMac Pro" will replace the MacPro (which will be dropped.)

    Of course, no one knows what the "iMac Pro" will be, or even if those folks who refer to themselves as Pros will have anything from Apple that would continue to draw those pros to Apple for new purchases.
    Time will tell, eh?
     
  5. Ph.D. macrumors 6502

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    If an "iMac Pro" comes into existence (remember, folks, that's just speculation), then to differentiate it in any obvious way it will have a larger screen (e.g., 8k or ultra-wide). However, it will remain anorexic and hence any additional graphics power installed in it will still barely suffice to drive the additional pixels. That's not "pro" in my view, just "bigger." In other words, just marketing.
     
  6. Floris macrumors 68020

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    It is such a shame that if they make a "pro" iMac, that the Pro means "more normal computer parts rather than custom mobile solutions that actually perform under-par, considering how much money we put down". There will be nothing pro about it. I am a huge fanboi, big enough to buy a new mac and not a new pc. But I am disappointed at how they bully us when it comes to prosumer products.
     
  7. Ph.D., Oct 8, 2016
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    They are not "bullying" us. They are disinterested in us since we are too small a market, and the wrong market, for a behemoth consumer product and services company. But rather than folding up the "pro" tent as we are familiar with it, they are:
    • Saving face in the Pro market as long as possible by leaving a single semi-pro product to linger.
    • Slowly redefining what "pro" means (in market-speak) to that of "prosumer" products.
    • Not admitting any of this publicly and letting "pros" give up one by one due to years of neglect.
    Oh, and just wait until Apple's real cash cow kicks in - services of various sorts - in a bigger and bigger way. Then even the newly-rebranded "pro" products will fade away as virtual products take over (as in M$ and Google, etc.). Hardware will then take a back seat as a mere substrate for those services, much as generic Android phones are to Google.
     
  8. krazirob macrumors regular

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    The iMac Pro will come with a screen through right? I like my MacPro cause I can attach whatever kind of screens. I just need a solid desktop computer, not too concerned with the screen apple offers.
     
  9. iMcLovin, Oct 8, 2016
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    I don't think you will see a iMac Pro. Apple aims at the mass market, everything else is just clutter in their way. I expect apple to release a new macbook pro, which will be fancy redesign with "hip" features for the casual market (nothing that will matter much for professionals) iMac will just get a effortless GPU upgrade (if they wouldn't do that, they would be beyond lazy) The Mac Pro most likely wont be upgraded, maybe its discontinued and will die out like the Thunderbolt Display (thats what I think). ..Something I'm sure Apple has wanted for a long time, but only now have the "courage" (phun intended) to go through with, without the fear of it affecting their device sales. ...IF they upgrade the Mac Pro in the future, it will be as soldered design as the current and only upgrading the internals to stay remotely in the game. But, then expect that machine to be their current for the next 4-5 years before they bother upgrading or kill it entirely. Letting a company like Apple dictate when I should get a new computer (apparently never) and what internals I can choose from (basically controlled by their own sugarcoated deals with vendors like AMD) no way!...Ive happily switched to pic and windows and I'm never going to solely stick with one brand ever again. I miss the ability to send SMS from OSX, thats the ONLY thing I miss. Apart from that I got so much more with windows, and a machine I can finetune and upgrade every year as I see fit and so many great softwares (and games) to choose from. This is a good time for every professional, that are not completely tied to OSX to leave, IMO. Ofc, some are dependent on OSX, ProRes codecs, FCPX and such, and I pity them for that. Apple should let windows use ProRes and program FCPX to WIndows, continue to support Quicktime on PC and let people have a choice. Because these are not good enough reasons over time to just stick with apple, and it just proves you never know when you can trust apple or they will just leave you in the gutter. Happily everyone have a certain amount of patience and at a point people will find other solutions. Soon ProRes and Quicktime will be replaced with other more open source softwares that TV companies and such can rely on. Apple is doing the same to customers that Steve Jobs badgered Adobe for with Flash a few years back, and we all see how well it went with Flash....slow death.
    And I hope this will at some point sting hard for Apple, when their iDevices are loosing the cool factor and hysteria and Apples ecosystem is falling apart - no one can stay on top forever - And Apple with their arrogance deserves to be whipped off the throne.

    Is that good enough badger for you? ;)
     
  10. krazirob macrumors regular

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    Wow so are you with or against MAC? Quite confused on your response here.
     
  11. iMcLovin macrumors 68000

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    Hmm was that irony? Maybe I didn't make it clear enough that when I mention that I happily switch I mean I switched to windows and a pc. I have very little positive to say about apple and how they treat people using mac for professional work. It seems apple think every professional either use iWork or FCPX.
     
  12. krazirob macrumors regular

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    It was quite comical nonetheless.......good on ya for the switch....to each his own and as long as you are getting what you need to get done accomplished i guess it really doesn't matter what system you are using
     
  13. iMcLovin macrumors 68000

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    :) I agree. If OS X and apples current machines serve all your needs no need to make an effort to get something else. OS X is a great os.
     
  14. Ph.D. macrumors 6502

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    It's "Mac" not "MAC." And it's "the Fed," not "the FED," etc. These are abbreviations for Macintosh and Federal Reserve, etc., not acronyms.

    Drives me crazy! Hehe.
     
  15. krazirob macrumors regular

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    hmmmm....ok....didnt know i was posting in a my english grammar class.......apologies!
     
  16. Ph.D., Oct 8, 2016
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    The language is called "English," with a capital E. And you are an "I," not an "i" (unless you have really tiny hands or something). Now get off my lawn! (I'm just teasing. Sorry. I'm no better than anyone else at spelling, etc., though I really do roll my eyes and sigh every time I see "MAC.")
     
  17. crescentmoon macrumors member

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    Still waiting .... I fear that my present mid 2010 mac pro will be my last apple computer......
     

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  18. Floris macrumors 68020

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    You're correct, it is a better word for it.
     
  19. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    macOS coming to PC, but only if you run a new AMD mobo. It is happening.
     
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    Licensing or a partnership with an oem?
    What would happen to Mac sales if you could get a super fast MacOS Pc for a lot less?
     
  21. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    Nothing will happen to their notebook or iMac sales. The mini and pro will likely be abandoned in favour of letting anyone build their own AMD system including OEMs who adhere to some design guidelines.
     
  22. enc0re macrumors regular

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    Return of the clones? I don't think so. Apple sells integrated products only.
     
  23. fastlanephil macrumors 65816

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    And Apple will never develope an app for Windows or use the evil Intel processors.
     
  24. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    Yeah...whenever I read a naysayer on an Apple forum the next year or two they're eating their words. Happened so many times that you can just sit back and count on it.

    iPod for Windows? Will never happen.
    Preemptive multitasking on Mac OS? Nah...cooperative much better!
    OS X on Intel? No way in hell.
    OS X for free? Get lost.
    An Apple stylus for the iPad? Cmon, be real.
    Of course macOS will still support the cMP 4,1 (popular comment on this forum the day before Sierra specs released)

    I can keep going on.
     

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