New Magic Keyboard/Trackpad/Mouse

Discussion in 'Mac Accessories' started by MattZani, Oct 13, 2015.

  1. MattZani macrumors 68030

    MattZani

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2008
    Location:
    UK
    #1
    So, Apple have released the new accessories, rechargeable via a lightning cable, force touch on the trackpad etc, but the price, are they having a laugh? £80 for the Keyboard seems a bit steep but fair enough, but £110 for the trackpad! Fairly sure that's nigh on twice the price of the old one.
     
  2. peerman macrumors newbie

    peerman

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2015
    #2
    And I'm losing productivity because instead of just inserting new batteries in the mouse, I have to wait until it is charged...
    Not so smart I think. They should have made the lightning port on the front so you could use it as a wired mouse when charging...
     
  3. Traverse macrumors 603

    Traverse

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2013
    Location:
    Here
    #3
    That's an excellent thought
     
  4. jgelin macrumors 6502a

    jgelin

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    Location:
    St Petersburg, FL
    #4
    That's how I always envisioned it. A bit disappointed
     
  5. Anuba macrumors 68040

    Anuba

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2005
    #5
    I like the designs, and I'm happy they finally went internal rechargeable some 13 years after Logitech did, but... 1) the prices are completely bonkers. 2) The lightning port on the bottom of the mouse is the most glaring example of form over function since the buttonless iPod Shuffle gen 3. And 3) fans of the full sized keyboard w/ numpad who have waited for a wireless version for aeons get shafted once again (the numpad is essential for most pro music apps since it works as a transport panel, and I'm sure musicians aren't the only users who need it).
     
  6. m.x macrumors member

    m.x

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2014
    #6
    To be honest, I'm quite shocked. I wanted to buy the new keyboard for my iPad but I can't support that. I always defended apple for their prices, but this is just ridiculous. The old one was € 79, and they already raised the price from € 69 to adjust the weak €, but the new one is € 119. I can't think of any reason that makes it so expensive. The battery or the new design? I don't think so. Maybe they desperately want to get away from the iPhone as the (nearly) only source of revenue?
    Maybe I'm just a bit disappointed, but also doubling the price for the trackpad makes me think that they don't want to encourage their costumers to adapt alwaysthe newest technology (here: force touch). They simply want more money. But I'm quite happy that it doesn't come in gold (although a space grey one with black keys would look nice)
     
  7. kryten42 macrumors 6502

    kryten42

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Location:
    In a little world of my own
    #7
    Too expensive for me right now. Will wait until order next Mac I think (probably new 27" iMac at some point).
     
  8. Anuba macrumors 68040

    Anuba

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2005
    #8
    That's how Logitech MX Master and the older (from 2010 I think) Performance MX work. Micro USB port at the front, just plug in and keep working. The tiny Ultrathin T630/T631 does however have the charging port in approximately the same unfortunate location as the MM2.
     
  9. Sound214 macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Location:
    Sweden
    #9
    I'm a bit disappointed, really. No backlit keyboard, no Force Touch on the Magic Mouse 2. And on top of that, all of the new peripherals are quite expensive. And yet, I will buy all of them... I'm a sucker.
     
  10. the8thark macrumors 68040

    the8thark

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2011
    #10
    The Australian website does not seem to have prices yet. I wonder how expemsive they will all be for me :/

    • Mouse - This I want. Then I can ditch the mighty mouse I am using now. I do have a magic 1 but the whole battery thing just got to me. The magic 2 looks to be just want I need.
    • Trackpad - This is something I really want also. No more batteries and force touch. A total win-win for me.
    • Keyboard - This is slightly disappointing. No extended version. I use the home/page up and page down keys a lot as well as the numberpad. Also it's not wired. That would free up a USB slot. Not that I will use that extra slot for much. I'm more worried about the fact there is only a compact keyboard version released. It might jsut turn me off getting the keyboard.
     
  11. jennysgotagun macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2009
    #11
    Magic Trackpad 2 is sexy. I hope there will be some trackpad gesture support for Windows 10 in BootCamp as well. My old Magic Trackpad was almost useless in BC until this year I found the third-party gesture enabler called Extramagic. This way the three and four finger gestures are working in BC, and they're now even offering the M$-signed drivers, but honestly I'd prefer the proper drivers to be originated from Apple. Yep, even for Windows :)
    Could somebody who's the first to try the new Magic Trackpad confirm are there any gestures in Boot Camp? Thanks in advance!
     
  12. the1payday macrumors 6502

    the1payday

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2007
    Location:
    Amarillo, TX
    #12
    May not be that big of a deal. Apparently the mouse can reach a 9 hour life, on a 2 MINUTE charge. Pretty awesome.
     
  13. sequential macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2015
    #13
    Fire Tim C(r)ook immediately. He's a disgrace for the apple brand.
     
  14. the8thark macrumors 68040

    the8thark

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2011
    #14
    Add in the fact you get a 20% and 10% power left warning and it's not an issue.
     
  15. MarkieMark92 macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2013
    Location:
    London, UK
    #15
    Damn until I read the force touch piece of the Trackpad it was a no no, now its a yes yes -_- :oops::rolleyes:
     
  16. Smeaton1724 macrumors 6502a

    Smeaton1724

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2011
    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    #16
    Crazy UK accessory prices, will wait for the grey imports. One major omission for me is no Touch ID key on the keyboard, that would bring Apple Pay front and centre to the Mac.
     
  17. the8thark macrumors 68040

    the8thark

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2011
    #17
    Just remember it all needs bluetooth 4.0 That does mean my iMac 2011 is too old. It only has Bluetooth 2.1+EDR. So it's a bluetooth 4.0 dongle for me or I wait till I get a new iMac one day.
     
  18. DynamicSausage macrumors 6502

    DynamicSausage

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Location:
    Leicestershire, UK
    #18
    I'm massively disappointed. I was looking forward to a backlit keyboard and force touch magic mouse, Apple have delivered neither and charged waayyyy over the odds for all of it. The trackpad is the only one that has lived up to any expectation but I never use the one I've got and the price is double what I paid for this one. Unfortunately, it's a no from me.

    On the other hand, the 4K iMac seems like a bit of a bargain. Now THAT is tempting :/
     
  19. sunapple macrumors 6502a

    sunapple

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2013
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    #19
    Disappointed, but luckily I don't actually need them.

    My Magic Trackpad works perfectly fine. It's large enough, I don't hard-click it and with the Apple AA batteries I get decent battery life. Also, I bought it new for 40 euros which is 110 euros less than this new version. That much money for Force Touch and charging via USB doesn't sound compelling at all to me.

    I've also got the Apple Wireless Keyboard which has been around for some time now. Features I would've liked to see like backlit, black keys or numeric pad are not there. The batteries I have work fine, just like with the Trackpad, and I don't really want to plug it in to my laptop or wall adapter to charge it. Keys seem to have less travel too. And there's the price.

    Not sure what Apple was thinking here, although I would probably love to use them if I got them with an iMac. There mostly the same, no reason to upgrade your old gear unless you absolutely have to Force Click everything all the time.

    BTW I have owned a Magic Mouse before, but the wireless mouse with two buttons and a scroll wheel I got for 10 euros works a hundred times better with that one program I use it for (CAD). New version also doesn't sound that different.
     
  20. iamMacPerson macrumors 68030

    iamMacPerson

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2011
    Location:
    AZ/10.0.1.1
    #20
    To me the trackpad is the only one worth buying since it now has Force Touch. I use my trackpad for editing video (I know people will gawk at that, but I've used trackpads almost my entire life) and I'm sure FCPX will get updated for it soon enough.

    The keyboard is a bit of a disappointment, especially if it uses the new butterfly switches. I'd like to know if the trackpad and keyboard can be used while charging. The port is in the right place, but obviously the Magic Mouse can't.
     
  21. DesertSilver macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    #21
    I was in the market for a Magic Trackpad last week and saw the leaks that there would most likely be an update released today but I literally opened my mouth in shock when I saw the price of the new one.

    One big thing (to me) that nobody has mentioned here yet is that there doesn't seem to be any haptic feedback, just Force Touch. Hopefully there's some feedback but it's most likely a physical click, if anything. I can't see Apple designing the trackpad without any feedback since that would be a horrible experience.

    ...the inside holds four pressure-sensitive sensors. It would probably be too much to hope for haptic feedback in a trackpad at this point, given both power consumption and the potential to rattle on a flat surface, so it’s no shock that Apple Watch- and iPhone 6s-like feedback isn’t included here.
    (http://9to5mac.com/2015/10/13/opini...2-trackpad-2-pricey-steps-in-right-direction/)
    That being said, I wonder how the new Magic Trackpad 2 looks together, in design, with the old Wireless Keyboard. It seems to have been designed to match the design of the new Magic Keyboard, which seemingly has a different profile than the Wireless Keyboard.
     
  22. Sound214 macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Location:
    Sweden
    #22
    How is Force Touch different to using a three finger tap? Serious question.
     
  23. DesertSilver macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    #23
    Arguably, Force Touch (or 3D Touch on the iPhone 6s) can be replicated by different gestures and/or taps. But physically, Force Touch has sensors on each corner of the trackpad, versus having 2 physical buttons at the lower part of the old trackpad. This changes the experience since the old one required a little bit more force if you're clicking on the upper part of the trackpad (since the buttons are on the opposite end). And it can sense pressure so it can have different "force" for different actions. Force Touch probably improves durability, too.
     
  24. h9826790, Oct 13, 2015
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2015

    h9826790 macrumors 604

    h9826790

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2014
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    #24
    On the Magic mouse, I think it's only possible to introduce "force click" but not "force touch". It's almost impossible to force touch the mouse but not clicking it (practically).

    I guess this is why there is no force touch on the Magic mouse 2.

    I was hoping there is something really impressive, however, most likely I will buy nothing but just keep using my Magic mouse 1 + the Mobee charger now. I already has virtual internal battery now, and it's a downgrade for me from wireless to wire charge.

    Keyboard, no backlight, and TBO, I can't see any "magic". It's just a keyboard. I expect it has limited touchpad function like this one (when I see the word"magic").

    Or at least has the touch ID, then it's "unique" (to the trackpad / mouse), do more than an ordinary keyboard, and make typing loooooooong password become history.

    Touchpad, far too expensive for a track pad. Unless it can pair up with the Apple pencil as a drawing board, I really can't see why I want it at this moment.
     
  25. BSben macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    May 16, 2012
    Location:
    UK
    #25
    I don't think Tim is sitting there with his calculator himself.
    You can also get the lovely trackpad items much cheaper, if you buy it with a new iMac.
    Apple has done pretty well with Tim Cook so far, why fire him?
     

Share This Page