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New MBP 16" M1 Max- Not impressed.

Final cut pro and Maya....IM VERY IMPRESSED but before i bought the new MBP i look into it if my work app work beautifully with my new machine
People, we are not in the 90 anymore ...you should do some digging before you buy something to see if it fits your needs.
Also, Apple has a perfect return policy ...so if you are not impressed take it back...101 logic
 
Sadly Lightroom was and still is a poorly written program.
This has nothing to do with Apple.
I am using it exclusively on my desktop which is a 32 core threadripper 2 with 64 gb of ram, GTX 1080 TI graphics card and Samsung 970 Pro NVME SSD. Although these resources should far exceed Lightroom's needs, it still works like a dog with very serious lagging, especially when it loads the catalog (50.000 pics = 600GB).
I once tried to put 128gb of ram but have seen 0 difference...
 
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@badsimian

I don't think my problems with the 16 gb ram models was a memory leak. The ram usage does not increase, if i not open additional tabs. It was just taking a lot of ram for opening additional tabs. Something i saw on Windows with far less expensive and self upgradeable (not this soldered modules of m1/m1 pro/max) ram also. Never thought it could be the same on the "magic" macos. Also the just booted up mac os was taking 4-5 gb of ram.

I mean they have released this baseline pros with only 16 gb ram for gpu and cpu. If this is not enough even for basic work like web browsing/office stuff. It's a big fail.
 
smirking said:
Come over to Capture One Pro!
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I'm personally too dependent on LR's ability to sync back and forth with the mobile version of LR. All my images on my computer are automatically sync'd to my iPad, and any edits I make on my iPad are sync'd back to the computer. I understand C1 is coming out with an iPad app next year, but if it's geared strictly toward using the iPad as a standalone device that you import directly into (as opposed to also incorporating syncing edits with the computer version), it won't do any good for me.

Edit: I do have the Sony version of C1, and I play with it every now and then. One thing that I really like about it is that it leverages the GPU a lot more than LR does.
 
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@badsimian
I mean they have released this baseline pros with only 16 gb ram for gpu and cpu. If this is not enough even for basic work like web browsing/office stuff. It's a big fail.
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You’re just boring everyone now.

16gb is more than enough. From experience. I’ve been using Logic Pro, affinity suite, MS office, teams, and others for a week now and haven’t once hit an amber warning on 16gb.

You’ve supposedly found issues with:
Memory usage
Screen refresh rates
Processor speed
Battery life
Build quality
The notch
With a laptop that you ‘apparently’ had to buy and are ‘apparently’ returning because it was damaged out of the box or didn’t meet your needs or any one of a number of excuses. And you’ve repeatedly suggested that any one of a number of windows machines would do a better job, but that for some reason you didn’t buy.
And created a new account here to post hundreds of times about it, without once offering anything constructive or positive. You’ve been called out repeatedly and you never respond, you just post more complaints about a new issue.
 
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@marmiteturkey

I have this windows machine where i talk about, thats why i notice the weaknesses of the M1 chipset so much.

Normal Apple fanboys have not this systems for comparison so they defend Apple endless. Last system they saw is some old budget windows setup a decade ago, without even a ssd. I have one of this types in my own family. He is using a macbook 2014 and was full of enthusiasm about it because his hdd windows pc was not fast :D. He is a strict apple buyer. I call him Mr. apple because of this. He has no knowledge about other products, but is very angry when i showing him how much better other products are. Criticsm about Apple is for him an insult. Crazy people :D.
 
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@marmiteturkey

I have this windows machine where i talk about, thats why i notice the weaknesses of the M1 chipset so much.

Normal Apple fanboys have not this systems for comparison so they defend Apple endless. Last system they saw is some old budget windows setup a decade ago, without even a ssd. I have one of this types in my own family. He is using a macbook 2014 and was full of enthusiasm about it because his hdd windows pc was not fast :D. He is a strict apple buyer. I call him Mr. apple because of this. He has no knowledge about other products, but is very angry when i showing him how much better other products are. Criticsm about Apple is for him an insult. Crazy people :D.
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When I imagine you in front of a Mac...
 

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I wouldn't sit long time in front of a mac because the display is too small, stutters when scrolling, response times are to slow for me and the rubber dome keyboard sucks. And the system is not fast enough for me.

The only cool thing about this machine is watching hdr content on it, from time to time.
 
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Watch this:

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I'm impressed that a 10000$ PC can only pull 20% more on the ******** that's Adobe Premiere
ASX said:
I wouldn't sit long time in front of a mac because the display is too small, stutters when scrolling, response times are to slow for me and the rubber dome keyboard sucks. And the system is not fast enough for me.

The only cool thing about this machine is watching hdr content on it, from time to time.
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lol.
Not for you i guess.
The M1 13" Pro is the best Mac i ever owned bar none, but I use mostly Logic Pro.
If i used adobe ransomware i'd probably feel different - and wouldn't buy any mac to run it. It just doesn't work well with any other chips than Nvidia.
FCPX tho ****ing crushes even his 10k$ rig and anything else he had in that video.

User experience is software and hardware. And if you use **** software you're gonna have a **** experience.
 
Silvestru Hosszu said:
I tried COP a few times in the past but the DAM part (I use LR as a DAM not pixel editor) was lacking.
Did they improve it lately?
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What was lacking in the COP DAM? I largely chose COP because of its DAM. I was an Aperture user and I wanted something that bore some resemblance to Aperture.

I'm quite fond of COP as an image editor too. Earlier versions were limited as an editor, but with more recent versions, I've come to only fire up Photoshop on rare occasion.
 
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My wife runs lightroom classic on my old hand-me-down gaming pc (It has an RX580) no problem. At all. So I don't understand the problem. Of course this is why I never tried to switch her from what was clearly working for her.
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These image editing programs are all touch and go and as quirky as the people who use them. I wouldn't touch anything that's working for someone either. I'm a Capture One Pro user and I moved from an aging 5 year old 2012 MBP to a maxed out 2016 MBP in 2017. Paradoxically, Capture One Pro ran a lot worse after my big upgrade. It took 2 years and 2 major version upgrades before performance got back to the same level for me.
 
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@marmiteturkey

I have this windows machine where i talk about, thats why i notice the weaknesses of the M1 chipset so much.

Normal Apple fanboys have not this systems for comparison so they defend Apple endless. Last system they saw is some old budget windows setup a decade ago, without even a ssd. I have one of this types in my own family. He is using a macbook 2014 and was full of enthusiasm about it because his hdd windows pc was not fast :D. He is a strict apple buyer. I call him Mr. apple because of this. He has no knowledge about other products, but is very angry when i showing him how much better other products are. Criticsm about Apple is for him an insult. Crazy people :D.
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Thanks for letting me know I should educate myself about Windows PCs and how much better those are. Seriously. Thank you.

Being a professor teachin‘ Computer science using mostly Windows workstations and Linux servers I can use some advice from someone like you.

Oh, wait…
 
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Not major editing..... not cutting video.

Just importing images.

I realize that Lightroom is one of the worst written modern programs, but I honestly expected more out of a MBP.... I bought a 32 gig M1 Max EXPECTING it to be able to handle simple things like image import.

#NotImpressed
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Lightroom has a memory bug on the new silicon in Monterey it’s a problem that only adobe can fix with an update. As with all new software and hardware there are bugs that need fixing in the first few months. You go with the latest stuff you accept the teething problems that’s any tech you buy.
Wether it’s a bug like this or windows 11 knocking 25% off of performance across the board on Ryzen machines this is the price you pay for being an early adopter of software or hardware.
 
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booksbooks said:
Stop dude. Stop making excuses for Apple.
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Okay buddy! Of course this has nothing to do with Adobe. Have you tried alternatives to Adobe products which run significantly better with proper memory management? How are you doing with your other posts? :rolleyes:
 
Why should he use another software? Only to run this alpha stadium apple silicon?

He could use a proper workstation for the same price which runs better.
 
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Why should he use another software? Only to run this alpha stadium apple silicon?

He could use a proper workstation for the same price which runs better.
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He should use the hardware and software that suits his workflow, if this is not the apple laptop that is fine, stop moaning send it back and use the set up that works for him. Oh and a workstation grade computer with eec ram and a decent graphics and CPU combo will set him back $10,000 minimum.
 
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How slow this M1 Pro is. Over 3 minutes slower than the 11800H/3080 with oled screen.
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Did it ever occur to you for just one second that Adobe's binary would likely be highly optimised for PC's? The same way Apple's software is optimised specifically for their own hardware....Woah, what a thought!
 
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These image editing programs are all touch and go and as quirky as the people who use them. I wouldn't touch anything that's working for someone either. I'm a Capture One Pro user and I moved from an aging 5 year old 2012 MBP to a maxed out 2016 MBP in 2017. Paradoxically, Capture One Pro ran a lot worse after my big upgrade. It took 2 years and 2 major version upgrades before performance got back to the same level for me.
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Wow! That is crazy!
 
smirking said:
What was lacking in the COP DAM? I largely chose COP because of its DAM. I was an Aperture user and I wanted something that bore some resemblance to Aperture.

I'm quite fond of COP as an image editor too. Earlier versions were limited as an editor, but with more recent versions, I've come to only fire up Photoshop on rare occasion.
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I have to confess that I tried it last time 3 or 4 years ago when a library of 50-60.000 of pics was finicky at best (worse lags than LR). Many on photo oriented forums advised to use sessions instead of catalogue, but that came with it own drawbacks. Furthermore, the printing module in LR was really convenient.
Do you think that now COP is appropriate for such needs as described above?
 
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ASX said:
Yep, i saw also high memory usage if you open a lot of tabs. And is slowing massively down. It's very slow compared with my 5900X desktop and 11800H laptop. If im a regular Apple user with only Apple hardware for years, maybe i hadn't noticed it.
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Please give as much details as you can. I basically Only use my MBP for Safari, but I’m a tab WHORE. Trying to decide on 32 or 64. How many tabs,when do you notice a slow down etc
 
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