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New Microsoft Ad Campaign Targets Mac Prices
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Secure or non secure, doesn't change the fact that there are millions of Windows viruses, increasing by thousands every day, while there are few Mac viruses, and they're increasing much more slowly.
The article is from 2 years ago, and it talks about vulnerabilities, and not malware.
Still Simple
This ad has people really upset. It's very simple the people in Redmond have something to worry about now. These ads are not a response to the "I'm a Mac" Ads, it a response to Apple (and Google) Starting to stop Microsoft from moving around unabated. They have a huge PR problem due to Vista not being great. Microsoft has never had a much competition as it does now (albeit still not alot of competition) They can't dominate search, browsers, MP3 players as of late. They were embarrassed by the Ipod, IE8 is losing ground, and google won't let them in to search (actually they are in bed with Apple). So Steve ( the other Steve) is coming out swinging. Everybody is wrapped around Viruses, Generic PC parts etc. .... It's about the Software.......Apple is writing really good software and Microsoft is not. Every-time you turn around Apple is dropping some new software and it usually pretty slick. Ask yourself this what's the last really slick piece of software Microsoft dropped?
This ad has people really upset. It's very simple the people in Redmond have something to worry about now. These ads are not a response to the "I'm a Mac" Ads, it a response to Apple (and Google) Starting to stop Microsoft from moving around unabated. They have a huge PR problem due to Vista not being great. Microsoft has never had a much competition as it does now (albeit still not alot of competition) They can't dominate search, browsers, MP3 players as of late. They were embarrassed by the Ipod, IE8 is losing ground, and google won't let them in to search (actually they are in bed with Apple). So Steve ( the other Steve) is coming out swinging. Everybody is wrapped around Viruses, Generic PC parts etc. .... It's about the Software.......Apple is writing really good software and Microsoft is not. Every-time you turn around Apple is dropping some new software and it usually pretty slick. Ask yourself this what's the last really slick piece of software Microsoft dropped?
Symantec? Seriously? The only thing they produced that was worth something was Ghost, which I did use religiously back in my win admin days. Their virus offerings are a joke, and anything that comes out of that lame-factory smells of new grad. Symantec installs onto your system and gives an allure of being protected. After about a 70% overall machine slowdown, hundreds of little alerts and popups and six new tray icons your machine will become swiss cheese, and whats worse is people fall for that garbage because its generally preinstalled on machines ~.~
I'd trust McAfee over symantec. I'm a Nod32 man myself.
I've said it before and i'll say it again. Apple/OS X have achieved celebrity status. There are an ubserd amount of high profile clients that could be affected by an outbreak. A state governing board placed a large order for Macbook Airs a few months ago, i've seen numerous newscasters have the unibody macbooks live at their desks, etc etc. 10% market share means nothing. The virus writer who creates a truely debilitating attack on OS X will also achieve celebrity status. A USER INSTALLED trojan is not a virus, yet look at all the attention in gleaned on the net, and the numerous wintrolls who came out of the woodwork to get a 'look-see' and tell mac users that they are 'no longer safe'.
And how do you know that you don't have any of these things if you have no software that detects them? Install spybot, have it do a search. Do you still not have spyware? Just because it doesn't visibly effect your machine, doesn't mean it isn't present.
Microsoft Office 2007 is a great piece of software, very well done indeed. Windows 7 also looks promising. Windows Vista is not great, but not bad either; it's good, just a little annoying sometimes.
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Either way, let's stick to what we were talking about - profit margins and PCs vs Macs. Last time I checked, profit margin was revenue minus production costs and it would be peculiar if OS X is somehow an addition to the total production cost tally. OS X most certainly didn't come out of an EZ-bake oven but are you really suggesting that they somehow had a harder job than the guys over in Redmond? How many internal hardware components does OS X have to support, they've used, what, 150-200 internal thingamabobs across the product line since the Intel switch? Given that they generally give legacy support a big fat middle finger, and don't have to make the system work with some 50,000 different components in a billion combinations like the Windows team does, it doesn't exactly sound like a trial of fire.
Certainly, but as an end user I really don't care what excuses the producer has. If it's between gasoline from Exxon, or gas from someone who just started a small refinery in his backyard and has to charge $2,000/gallon to pay for his startup investments, sorry but I'm gonna go with Exxon.
I never suggested that Lenovo or Dell/HP professional machines (Dell Precision etc) are cheap, they're in the $2000+ ballpark, but I still get more bang for buck than with an MBP. Especially since Apple recently jacked up their prices in Sweden when nobody else did. It's funny, when the dollar was in the toilet and went from 12 SEK in Clinton's days to 5 SEK last year, Apple never once adjusted the prices down, claiming it was some sort of buffer for "currency fluctuations", but as soon as the dollar gained back a little and went up to 8 SEK, *BOOM* up went Apple's prices. Guess the fluctuation buffer only works one way, huh.
It's also a "study" regarding safety protection from a company that sells safety protection. Go figure.
I'm curious why the MS guys are so supportive. What other company with a 90% share of the market do you support? Do you truly believe that MS has been innovative and good for all of us. Personally, I'd like to see Linux up their share to 30% and OSX to 30%, then we could have some real competition.
As a case in point, I bought the 1999 version of Links Golf by Access Software, great playability. MS was trying to get MS Golf going and couldn't so they bought Access Software. The playability and just about everything else degraded, but fortunately my old version still runs. What do you think they would have done to Intuit?
As a case in point, I bought the 1999 version of Links Golf by Access Software, great playability. MS was trying to get MS Golf going and couldn't so they bought Access Software. The playability and just about everything else degraded, but fortunately my old version still runs. What do you think they would have done to Intuit?
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Office is a nice piece of software (probably their best), Vista is ok ( it sort of has a bad rap), Window 7 should be good. My point is none of that software is "slick" or "exciting". People actually are excited about Iphone 3.0, Snow Leopard, the things they can do in Imovie. I'm sorry, I'm not excited about the Zune update, or Windows media player or Window 7. I don't know nobody who is. To be frank, I really can't see Window 7 being nothing more than a windows version of Leopard. Microsoft lost it creativity when it got rid of it's competition and that was a long, long time ago. Apple has always had both.
Office is a nice piece of software (probably their best), Vista is ok ( it sort of has a bad rap), Window 7 should be good. My point is none of that software is "slick" or "exciting". People actually are excited about Iphone 3.0, Snow Leopard, the things they can do in Imovie. I'm sorry, I'm not excited about the Zune update, or Windows media player or Window 7. I don't know nobody who is. To be frank, I really can't see Window 7 being nothing more than a windows version of Leopard. Microsoft lost it creativity when it got rid of it's competition and that was a long, long time ago. Apple has always had both.
you get what you pay for
Everybody can not drive a Cadillac! Some people actually like driving a Yugo, a Moped or some other entry level machine that will get you from point A to point B. Myself I am enjoying watching Micro$oft sweat. And SWEAT they are! Now Chevy makes a car called the Cobalt, sells for around 10 grand. It will get you where you are going just fine. But Chevy is not comparing their Cobalt to an entry level BMW saying theirs is cheaper. No because they are not stupid. As we all know steve balmer is. Yes dumb as a box of rocks. And he is sweating, his company is finally being seen for what it is. Cheap crappy entry level operating system. The machines themselves may have some similarities under the hood, but that is where it stops. windoze, winbloze or what ever name it deserves or you call it by is the pits of an OS. 20 years from now winbloze will only be in a tech museum and will get 5 people a year to stop and say, Oh I remember that.
Everybody can not drive a Cadillac! Some people actually like driving a Yugo, a Moped or some other entry level machine that will get you from point A to point B. Myself I am enjoying watching Micro$oft sweat. And SWEAT they are! Now Chevy makes a car called the Cobalt, sells for around 10 grand. It will get you where you are going just fine. But Chevy is not comparing their Cobalt to an entry level BMW saying theirs is cheaper. No because they are not stupid. As we all know steve balmer is. Yes dumb as a box of rocks. And he is sweating, his company is finally being seen for what it is. Cheap crappy entry level operating system. The machines themselves may have some similarities under the hood, but that is where it stops. windoze, winbloze or what ever name it deserves or you call it by is the pits of an OS. 20 years from now winbloze will only be in a tech museum and will get 5 people a year to stop and say, Oh I remember that.
I like what they did with the Office interface in 2007, but to be honest it's a little more buggy than it should be after a Service Pack has been released. And they really need to to something about the Outlook data file structure, a bloated .PST file is one of the most unweildy things you could possibly keep your mail in.
Their Office for Mac is really ugly and outdated though, looks like a Jaguar application. iWork is nicer, but the Office document translation is a joke.
Well, Microsoft isn't really exciting. Microsoft tried to make Vista exciting with that "wow" campaign, but it failed miserably. Was not for that, Vista would probably have a better reputation these days...
Microsoft has some good ideas. I liked the ribbon in Office 2007 and in Windows 7, I think it's nice.
Which strikes me as the chiefs at Microsoft are scared because they can see their hegemony starting to unravel around the edges. Between Apple and the Linux movement, we've been doing a pretty darn good job letting the world know there are actual, honest-to-God legitimately viable alternatives to Microsoft's OS and other software products.
Though I hate the new trilogy, there was something said by Palpatine to Anakin that bears repeating: Those who have power are afraid of losing it.
Never, ever forget that.
Office 2008 for Mac is a joke, a bad piece of software, and a memory hog. I've never had a single crash with Office 2007, which I found to be the best piece of software I've ever run on Windows. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same thing about Office 2008...
Of course it is. Microsoft is more aware of the competition than ever. And that's a good thing. Microsoft products seem to be better than ever these days.
hey guys i just came back from my 5 day suspension so i wasnt able to post before. but this is what i have to say. I'm extremely glad microsoft finally started advertisements with some points in them, in this economy money talks. so if they advertise as the cheaper alternative that performs the same, thats great. of course many of us know they dont perform the same, but many people watching the commercial won't know that. And i dont know about you guys, but i LIKE being in the minority of computer users. I dont want everyone to own a mac because then they might start developing the problems that plague windows operating systems, such as viruses and a lot of other things. I didnt buy a mac to be cool, i wanted it because i wanted to leave an operating system that caused many problems for me personally. as long as my family and friends have macs, then im all good because i dont have to sit on the phone with them trying to fix their windows issues. so if this commercial keeps even a few people from buying macs, im all for it.
But if you're running a business on that machine, you'd better get some virus protection quick.
Thats funny
That's funny I forgot all about the WoW campaign. LMAO!!!! If Window 7 has an outing like Vista Ballmer will lose more of his hair. Personally I don't think Apple can keep up this Momentum, it would be nice, but Microsoft is to big. Speak of the Devil that darn commercial is on again.
That's funny I forgot all about the WoW campaign. LMAO!!!! If Window 7 has an outing like Vista Ballmer will lose more of his hair. Personally I don't think Apple can keep up this Momentum, it would be nice, but Microsoft is to big. Speak of the Devil that darn commercial is on again.
And with a Mac you simply learn to LOVE the spinning beach ball. Makes waiting a lot more fun!
Lets do some research:
HP - Pavilion Laptop with AMD Turion X2 RM-72 Dual-Core Mobile Processor - Bronze/Chrome::::
AMD Turion X2 RM-72 = 2.1GHZ
17" WXGA =1440 x 900 resolution
RADEON HD 3200 (the card itself) 256mb
Quick Launch buttons
Built-in 10/100Base-T Ethernet LAN
Ethernet Expansion port 3 (to connect to its dock)
Weighs 7.8 lbs. and measures just 1.7" thin
thin 2 hours and 30 minutes of battery
Macbook Pro 17":::
Intel Core 2 Duo = 2.66
MacBook Pro = 1920x1200
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256MB
NVIDIA 9600M GT 512MB
****, I don't have those
Built-in 10/100/1000 BASE-T Gigabit
****, I don't have a special port, the dock just connects on the sides where all my ports are anyways
6.6 lbs. and measures just 0.98"
7 hours of battery
The battery life is the only thing I can see that is debatable but it's all in how you treat the computer. My Macbook Black still gets 4 hours of battery with my wireless on, screen all the way bright and music playing.
Gigabit Ethernet is a big deal for me being as I transfer gigs of data everyday.
That's where you're missing it, it's not features, it's usable features. Long live KISS. (I wanted Bucky Fuller to design my software.)
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