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This man came asking for advice and you lecture him with all this? STAY on topic, if you can't DON'T post.
xxBURT0Nxx
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I actually have been helping him with recommendations... when he said that the reason he needs a large hard drive at all times because he pirates material, i also commented on that.
Why don't you actually try recommending a solution that would remedy his problem rather than tell him to buy a new machine which is going to have minimal impact.
if you can't DON'T post.... 🙄
Of course multi-tasking is processor intensive. What are you blabbering on about. Try decoding a video, while watching a movie on your MBP. Still quick? Then zip a folder or something. Point is, if your processor is being USED, then of course it's going to play a big part. And when you run Windows in PARALLEL, what does that imply?
This world isn't perfect, and Americans certainly aren't. We're not in a position to lecture anyone. You're no saint either.
This world isn't perfect, and Americans certainly aren't. We're not in a position to lecture anyone. You're no saint either.
Advice is welcome, at the end is he's choice to take. I advice what I think is the best.
I'm totally with you on this, but for countries like yours to work, needs countries like ours. Its not possible to have all 1st world countries, the planet doesnt work that way... Where do you think all telemarketers or phone support that you call everyday live? here in Argentina, India and other 3rd world countries.
Where do you think our MBP are made? China, where people earns cents per hour.
Its the way the world works...unfortunately...
xxBURT0Nxx
macrumors 68020
that would be cool if the OP said he was encoding movies and watching them while unzipping a folder... maybe you should read the original post where he said he uses skype, the internet, and mail... really processor intensive 🙄
And how is anti-piracy claiming to be a saint? Get over yourself.
i understand that that's where you live and that's how things are. I'm saying, if you really wanted to pay for movies, or cared about not pirating them, you can buy things off of ebay and have them shipped, talk to people on forums.... international shipping happens all of the time, and you could get movies for normal prices instead of stealing them. That was my only point. If you want to steal, you're going to do it, doesn't mean i can't voice my opinion about it. Anyways, i don't care, i'm not trying to talk about the piracy anymore.
I used to run parallels because the live mail from windows works 100% better for hotmail, and turbo lister for ebay (which has no mac app), no i'm no longer using it, i'm probably adding a boot camp partition to play some online games (like need for speed online, LOTR online, or the new Age Of Empires online, which none of them have a mac app) not sure if with the 8gb and faster HDD will be needed, or if parallels will handle it...
Just make sure you're torrenting the games. Don't want you paying for it with 7 hours of legitimate work.
Don't pay any attention to posts bleeding with ignorance.
Don't pay any attention to posts bleeding with ignorance.
Some laws are really stupid. It is legal to save some movies in your DVR, but is illegal to show that movies to anyone who doesn't live with you. Technically you could be arrested if you have some friends over to watch a movie/game which is saved in your DVR.
Online distribution is the way to go. Is amazing how I can get games all over the world via Steam or App Store at really low prices. But when I want a movie I have a ton of restrictions regarding location.
Piracy is not a reason, is the consequence of something. NATO can fight pirates all they want in Africa, but as long as the poverty in Somalia is not fought, pirates will spawn endlessly.
Same applies with multimedia content at some degree. Why do I have to pay 600% of the original price, only because I live in another country which in some cases is only a hundred miles from where stuff are sold at retail prices???
I'm not defending piracy, I'm just saying that we need to understand realities, and based on that make a judgment.
Thats true, if you buy an item lets say in the UK, you wait at home for the item to arrive happily... well, thats not our case, if we buy something outside our country, we must wait until a notification arrives, and then we must go customs to pick up the item...a customs officer open the package in front of you to verify the content, and then...you pay the 50% of the cost of the item plus shipping, for custom duties... nothing like living here my friend!!
xxBURT0Nxx
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don't game in parallels... VM's are not good for things like that. Use bootcamp to boot directly into windows and you will have much better gaming performance.
yeah but who is to determine at what point piracy should be allowed. $50 a movie? $100? $5? There has to be a line drawn, and that's that piracy is illegal no matter what. If you look at the link I posted earlier, you will see that they are successfully combating piracy in Argentina.
Piracy Rate
1995 - 80%
1996 - 71%
1997 - 65%
1998 - 62%
1999 - 62%
2000 - 58%
My point is that you cannot make exceptions for some people to be allowed to pirate, because then what stops my neighbor from saying, well people in Argentina are allowed to pirate, why shouldn't I? I understand that not everyone is in the most ideal situations, but just because you are in a 3rd world country does not give you the right to be a thief.
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those numbers are ********...
right now, blockbusters are dead like here, basically because a rental cost $3 per day per dvd, and a pirated copy costs $1,5...
look how these numbers stopped in 2000, and if im not wrong, my first cd burner (cd not dvd) was purchased on 1997, and the first dvd burner on 2000
So those numbers right now should be around 300% at minimal pace, if not more. There are very few rental places right now because of this, so our only options are getting ripped off when we buy the original, buying piracy or downloading it...
xxBURT0Nxx
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Yes, piracy has gone back up since then, but the fact that your country was below 60% and has since increased to 72% shows that you guys are moving in the wrong direction. I will recommend reading this report: http://www.iipa.com/rbc/2011/2011SPEC301ARGENTINA.pdf
The Economic Benefits of Reducing PC Software Piracy, the information technology sector’s contribution to the Argentine economy could be even bigger if Argentina’s PC software piracy rate were to be lowered 10 percentage points over four years. This would create an additional 4,420 jobs, US$949 million in local industry revenues and US$202 million in additional tax revenues for federal, regional, and local governments.
There was no positive news to report on any progress made by the government to legalize its software last year. It is still easy to find hardware dealers selling computers with illegal original equipment manufacturers (“OEM”) versions or simply illegal copies pre-installed on computer hard disks. Based on preliminary data, PC software piracy in Argentina increased by one percentage point to 72% in 2010. This represented a commercial value of US$438 million worth of pirated U.S.-vendor software
In all actuality, you are justifying pirating software because it's not affordable, and everyone does it. If your country were to help combat piracy instead, many jobs and a lot of revenue for not only your country, but also ours would be generated. Piracy is a big deal, costs billions of dollars in revenue, and is not benefitting anyone.
The Economic Benefits of Reducing PC Software Piracy, the information technology sector’s contribution to the Argentine economy could be even bigger if Argentina’s PC software piracy rate were to be lowered 10 percentage points over four years. This would create an additional 4,420 jobs, US$949 million in local industry revenues and US$202 million in additional tax revenues for federal, regional, and local governments.
There was no positive news to report on any progress made by the government to legalize its software last year. It is still easy to find hardware dealers selling computers with illegal original equipment manufacturers (“OEM”) versions or simply illegal copies pre-installed on computer hard disks. Based on preliminary data, PC software piracy in Argentina increased by one percentage point to 72% in 2010. This represented a commercial value of US$438 million worth of pirated U.S.-vendor software
In all actuality, you are justifying pirating software because it's not affordable, and everyone does it. If your country were to help combat piracy instead, many jobs and a lot of revenue for not only your country, but also ours would be generated. Piracy is a big deal, costs billions of dollars in revenue, and is not benefitting anyone.
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Basic economics dictate what you should ultimately spend on anything is dictated by "opportunity cost". If I were on 80k salary, which works out to about $40 an hour, purchasing a $20-40 game/DVD legally is not a problem. It's "fair trade". Now, I'm only going to assume you/your family are fairly well off with this 80k assumption, but truth is, the national average is less than half that. So if you're in the mindset of "well I'll make this back in an hour", well, change that hour to two and a half. That's still not too bad. About a 1:1 ratio between the work/enjoyment.
Now, Argentinians aren't that bad off on the grander scheme of things, at about a fifth the salary. That would push the game to about $100-$200 range. Yeah, no thanks. Maybe Black Friday, once a year, or something. But even that's a stretch. That's a day's wages for most people.
And what about the Chinese? They're making 1/40 what we are. So at "retail" prices, that's equivalent to $800 - $1600, a MBP's worth. For a game/DVD. Yeah, **** it. So that's why "just buy from ebay for retail and have them ship it" is not really an option, is it?
And India? $1600-$3200. **** it.
Now, Argentinians aren't that bad off on the grander scheme of things, at about a fifth the salary. That would push the game to about $100-$200 range. Yeah, no thanks. Maybe Black Friday, once a year, or something. But even that's a stretch. That's a day's wages for most people.
And what about the Chinese? They're making 1/40 what we are. So at "retail" prices, that's equivalent to $800 - $1600, a MBP's worth. For a game/DVD. Yeah, **** it. So that's why "just buy from ebay for retail and have them ship it" is not really an option, is it?
And India? $1600-$3200. **** it.
Finally someone is getting my point here...
We are not a producing country, not on technology, so buying an original will not make any effect on the economy, only to the fat bastards who ripped our salaries...
We produce mostly food, luckily there is no way to piracy on food...lol
xxBURT0Nxx
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@2hvy4grvty not arguing, just discussing....
imo, you can't justify it in that way. Just because people in other countries don't have money doesn't mean they should be allowed to steal. You're basically saying that it's cool because you are poor. Reading through the report I posted, and looking at the figures, if they would make a stand to combat piracy, all countries involoved would benefit, and perhaps those 3rd world countries could move up and become 2nd, or 1st world. Obviously it's not going to happen overnight, but corruption is a common theme of all countries the world over. That does not mean that we should sit back and ignore it or allow it because those people are poor so it's cool. The fact that cops are making more money by not busting pirates is similar to when cops would turn a blind eye to organized crime in return for money here. We certainly don't allow that today, but it was common practice less than 50 years ago. Turning our back to the situation is not the answer, progress, no matter how slow IS the answer.
imo, you can't justify it in that way. Just because people in other countries don't have money doesn't mean they should be allowed to steal. You're basically saying that it's cool because you are poor. Reading through the report I posted, and looking at the figures, if they would make a stand to combat piracy, all countries involoved would benefit, and perhaps those 3rd world countries could move up and become 2nd, or 1st world. Obviously it's not going to happen overnight, but corruption is a common theme of all countries the world over. That does not mean that we should sit back and ignore it or allow it because those people are poor so it's cool. The fact that cops are making more money by not busting pirates is similar to when cops would turn a blind eye to organized crime in return for money here. We certainly don't allow that today, but it was common practice less than 50 years ago. Turning our back to the situation is not the answer, progress, no matter how slow IS the answer.
xxBURT0Nxx
macrumors 68020
and that copy is a lost sale..... 🙄
just because a physical item wasn't removed from a store doesn't mean it's not stolen property.
just because a physical item wasn't removed from a store doesn't mean it's not stolen property.
That argument makes NO sense.
Take a brand new Ferrari. Would you buy it? Probably not, you can't afford it. What if hypothetically it were free, maybe with missing seats or something (analogy for pirated games lacking features/support). "Well I might as well..." is your thinking. Is that a lost sale? Hardly. You were never going to buy it in the first place. So in this sense, if the dealer were to keep the original Ferrari, and you had a copy... how would you define that? It certainly isn't theft. They still have the Ferrari to sell to the next customer who want the ferrari.
Piracy != stealing. That's the problem with digital things. Laws everywhere have to be redefined in every sense. Hell, I'm being "robbed" every time I send I text. The nerve of them even THINKING about charging consumers $0.10 a text is "theft".
EDIT: Before I come off sounding like an absolute criminal; all my iPhone apps are legit. I support developers whenever possible (but truth be told, I can't pay EA for a copy of Porsche Unleashed if I wanted to; hopefully I've made up for it with purchases of SHIFT and SHIFT 2).
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I'm probably robbing my cell company, because i'm using Whats App, instead of texting... so they will be less rich by each message i send and it should be illegal... lol
xxBURT0Nxx
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so if everyone who pirates software wouldn't use it if they couldn't get it for free... why are they using it. They don't have product licenses and charge for software for no reason.
I understand that not every piece of pirated software would equal a sale, but if you aren't willing to buy it, don't pirate it.... you are stealing from a software developer/company.
You don't understand, but it IS stealing because, for example, every app i could want i can get for free from jailbreaking, every movie I want i could find on torrents, every song, etc, etc.... so why should i pay for it when it's free right?
SMS has long been a rip off. Consider that you are paying $1,310.72 per Megabyte......
What am I stealing though? With physical commodity, that's easy to quantify. But digital items? Much tougher. Even now.
Ever been on Youtube? "Hey, you're not allow to enjoy that background music! That's mine!" Wait what? Who's the perpetrator here? Who's at fault? You, the viewer, or the one putting up the video/music? Hint: trick question.
The only form of piracy that's 100% illegal is the redistribution of said items for profit. That's taking away profits from the developer. THAT'S stealing.
Ever been on Youtube? "Hey, you're not allow to enjoy that background music! That's mine!" Wait what? Who's the perpetrator here? Who's at fault? You, the viewer, or the one putting up the video/music? Hint: trick question.
The only form of piracy that's 100% illegal is the redistribution of said items for profit. That's taking away profits from the developer. THAT'S stealing.
It's not about right or wrong. It is about being smart. You can't fight piracy that is a fact, and instead of wasting millions and millions developing technology like vintage regions on DVDs. Spend that money in researching new ways of making money.
In developing countries, people seem to have a problem paying 15dlls for the latest U2 CD. But they don't seem to have problems paying 120dlls for a single ticket for their show.
Im sorry but this is a harsh world, if you do things the wrong way in business your going to go into bankruptcy, but talented people will always find new ways of making money.
Dont you worry for them. Let them worry, this is a capitalist world, they'll always find a way to get your money.
xxBURT0Nxx
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If I'm a developer, and you pirate my app, you are taking money away from me, that is a physical commodity.
And if you are going to say that you wouldn't pay for the software if you couldn't get it for free.... then don't take my software. I made it, and I am charging to make money off of it. The fact that EVERYONE can technically get it for free, does not mean it's ok to take it for free.
The problem, is that it does end up affecting some people. Independent devs, music artists, film makers, etc suffer. Who is to say that one day you or I won't be one of those people. The reason most people don't care is because they don't see the affect that it has.
A lot of people also don't feel guilty stealing from billion dollar companies and record labels. The thing you don't think about is the indie community.
At any rate... I really don't care to argue piracy any more. It is illegal, it is wrong, and the only people who are not anti-piracy is because they are pirates themselves. You are all free to do what you want, but don't get upset when people tell you that you shouldn't download copyrighted material from a torrent site.
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