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Urgh. When will Apple take battery iPhone life seriously!

iOS 8 will show us which apps are draining battery most, but it's basically them passing the buck going 'not our problem, it's that app', when they really should be giving as much battery capacity as they can.

But no, this Apple is obsessed with making their devices stupidly thin and compromising battery.

Some, at least, of the battery problems on iPhones are a result of iOS bugs and not necessarily just the small battery size.

Sometimes when using location apps, for example, my iPhone 5 will get hot and stay hot for several minutes, even after force-quitting the app in question (e.g. Apple Maps or Google Maps) and putting the phone to sleep.

Meanwhile the remaining battery drops 15% or so in a matter of minutes (I have background app refresh turned off globally).
 
This would be true if the screen remains 4 inches. Wishful thinking.

The display is a relatively small component of a phone's power draw. The increased screen size will increase overall power draw slightly, but not not anything like 20%.
 
Guys, the most battery drain is caused by the display. So even if A8 uses half of the energy of A7 you won't get a huge difference.

I don't understand why nobody invented a phone with huge 4k battery. I would probably prefer it over ultra slim design.
 
Guys, the most battery drain is caused by the display. So even if A8 uses half of the energy of A7 you won't get a huge difference.

I don't understand why nobody invented a phone with huge 4k battery. I would probably prefer it over ultra slim design.

Don't you think that if technology allowed it would have been invented already.

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Same ole same ole then, twice a day charging if you actually use it.

same for android phones. And you know what's worse? Since most Android phones' battery size is so much larger it takes forever to charge the battery.
 
Goodbye iPhone. Hello Moto X2

so you're dropping the iPhone over a rumored battery size, without knowing what sort of real world performance you'll be getting :roll eyes:

Perhaps you'd be better for selecting a phone that better suits your needs over how it works rather then what size the battery is.
 
Excellent news. I'll be very impressed if the battery life ends up being equal or better than my iPhone 5 in that super thin enclosure.
 
Don't you think that if technology allowed it would have been invented already.

There's not enough profit margins in battery solutions to advance tech in that field. It's been covered quite a few times. While it is critical and lagging behind all other elements in our devices, no one wants to invest heavily into R&D for little gain. It's just how it goes...
 
in that super thin enclosure.
That's what I'm worried about - a super thin enclosure. The iPhone 5 has a reputation of easily being bent - how much more will the iPhone 6 deform being even thinner.
 
Awesome battery! At least comparable to lower end Android handsets. Great job, Apple.
 
In general, I'm happy enough to charge overnight. However, if I make reasonably heavy use of the screen - checking maps, email, etc. I don't even make it through the day.

And if the air travel rules of needing to have charged devices carry on, then the need / desire to have devices that can last longer on a single charge is going to increase.

Capacity isn't really an issue - battery life is what's important, which is a function of capacity and drain. But at the size these phones have become, I would prefer a slightly thicker device with higher capacity battery.

It's about time Apple recognized that one size doesn't fit all, and offered a couple of variations - the thinnest, lightest possible with roughly a day's charge, and another with 2-3 times the battery capacity / life.

Let the consumer decide what their priorities are.
 
The display is a relatively small component of a phone's power draw. The increased screen size will increase overall power draw slightly, but not not anything like 20%.

That's really wrong, the screen is the most power drawning component by far. Larger screens mean more drawning, and sometimes a lot. It's happening in Android since a long time ago.
 
It does remain crappish or iOS8 does have magic within?

I thought iOS 8 was meant to shut down things that are not being used. I am not beta testing iOS 8 so I can't really comment. I just remember in the Apple keynote they mentioned how the software is supposed to be more intelligent.
 
iPhone 6 is thinner:

+ People who wanted thinner = happy
+ People who wanted longer battery life = not happy. Solution? Add a battery pack = happy

iPhone 6 is just as thick:

+ People who wanted thinner = not happy. Solution? None = screwed
+ People who wanted longer battery life = happy


Seriously. If you want more battery life buy something else or use one of the may battery packs. The solution is easy, Apple have been clear on their design direction for years.

I'm looking forward to a thinner iPhone, really like the iPod Touch dimensions.

EDIT

Even with the smaller sized iPhone 5s battery it is not too shabby compared to the competitors with much larger batteries: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/5

I imagine the 300 mAh increase will put it on par with the Android flagships. Along with iOS 8 optimisations, A8 optimisations. Other hardware (radios etc.) optimisations. Offset slightly by the rumoured bigger screen. Overall, a nice little boost over what we have currently in slimmer profile.
 
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The display is a relatively small component of a phone's power draw. The increased screen size will increase overall power draw slightly, but not not anything like 20%.

The screen area increases by 38% (http://www.displaywars.com/4-inch-16x9-vs-4,7-inch-16x9) and if the screen is sapphire, it needs more back-lighting to archive the same brightness (sapphire refraction is worse than glass). The power draw for back-lighting is going up alot to reach the same brightness, unless they somehow got some new magic lighting.
 
it needs more back-lighting to archive the same brightness (sapphire refraction is worse than glass).

The current screen is not glass, it is Gorilla glass, which is something entirely different. It was reported elsewhere that Sapphire is actually more transparent than Gorilla Glass and hence less power is necessary to produce the same screen brightness.

edit: I see I was wrong. Actually Sapphire has a higher refractive index. I eat my words on that part. It is though suggested that Sapphire might require a less thick screen which could compensate for the lower transparency.

Gorilla Glass vs Sapphire
 
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I love small capacity battery of my iphone 5S. The battery life is awesome. Around 6-7 hours of usage, and only 1 hour to charge from 20% to 100%. Prefer this than 3000mah battery and really takes a long time to charge to 100%.
 
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