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I know quite a lot of iPhone owners (and ex-iphone-owners). I have never - and I repeat, never - met someone who was complaining that the phone wasn't thin enough: "Man, I love the iPhone, but it just ain't thin enough! What to do?". However, I meet people all the time who are annoyed with the fact that the battery drains too fast.

As for me, I'm getting increasingly annoyed with Apple, and almost resent that I've become so invested in their ecosystem that it's hard to make the switch. How hard can it be to add 1 mm of bulk to the device, and give us a phone that would last well through the day even with medium to heavy usage? This obsession with form over function is getting stupid! I've used apple products since the early days (the 90s), and the reason was that "it just worked". Sadly, that is not the case any more.
 
Can someone with knowledge in the area please provide their opinion on how much of a boost (if any) this will provide taking into account a larger screen?

Does a 1810 mAh sound about right to keep the current battery life with a larger screen? Or is it impossible to tell?

Impossible to tell. At this point its just a number. BMW's current N20 I4 engine is on par with it's previous N52 I6. If one was just looking at how many cyl. an engine had the natural assumption would be more cyl. wins.
 
I love small capacity battery of my iphone 5S. The battery life is awesome. Around 6-7 hours of usage, and only 1 hour to charge from 20% to 100%. Prefer this than 3000mah battery and really takes a long time to charge to 100%.

Let's think about that brainy statement... Of course a larger battery will take longer to charge to 100% than a smaller one, because guess what, it holds more charge. Comparing the time it takes to charge a 1500 mAh battery to 100% with a 3000 mAh to 100% is stupid.

Besides, if your not in a rush to charge your phone, like in most cases, I think people tend to prefer higher capacity than seeing the 100% battery status achieved quickly.
 
No matter how many times you guys complain, whatever apple chugs on you with the launch of 6, i'm pretty sure you'll rush out of your house to be in line first to get the newest flagship from Apple.
 
Since upgrading my iPhone 4s to ios 7, I get 3 hours of usage before running out.

What does this upgrade mean? 4,5 hours? That's still not enough to get through the day.
 
Great, iphone battery will remain crapish unless the A8 has some kind of magic battery saving features.
A9 will be built on a process shrink with the potential of being 30 or more percent effcient over A8 for a given performance level. Beyond that rumor has it that Apple was stressing power improvements in A9 instead of massive performance increases. None of this is really Magic but you do need to be tuned into technology.
 
Great, iphone battery will remain crapish unless the A8 has some kind of magic battery saving features.

I guess A8 will be more power efficient
iPhone doesn't need a huge speed bump, A7 is already very fast and they introduced Metal for increasing games performances, so they can work on power consumption for the A8

Anyway power consumption on a phone is not just about the SoC. Let's see what they can do with the display, it will be bigger but maybe more efficient.
A weak cellular signal can drain the battery fast, so let's see what they'll do with the baseband chip and the antenna.

I don't expect the new iPhone to have a long battery life, maybe a 10% improvement or so. They want to go to the thinner phone, thus having smaller batteries. I suppose Apple is happy with 5S battery life, so they don't feel like compromising on the design to put a lager battery in their phones, they don't care about Samsung ads
 
Well, lets hope that there are some major power efficiency gains in the A8 and iOS 8.

The larger screen will likely increase power draw slightly, but nothing like 15%. So we should see *some* improvement, at least.

The screen is over 15% larger, so why wouldn't we expect it to increase power draw by that much? IPhone users haven't had battery info until iOS 8beta so maybe most are unaware that the screen uses wayyy more battery than anything else. I think this leak is a fake.
 
Apple knows what consumers want and it definitely isn't thicker, uglier iPhones to accommodate a little more battery juice. So Apple takes control of the entire experience like only they can and they give us extraordinary battery performance with none of the bulk you see on Android/HTC/Sony devices. This is our reward for Apple controlling the entire hardware and software experience.
 
Why worry about it?

Seriously this is only a concern when the new iPhones ship!

Can someone with knowledge in the area please provide their opinion on how much of a boost (if any) this will provide taking into account a larger screen?
Boost to what?
Does a 1810 mAh sound about right to keep the current battery life with a larger screen? Or is it impossible to tell?

Well impossible might not be the right word but you can make educated guesses. For example if you make an assumption that Apple will be going after lower power usage in the electronics then a battery that size could dramtically increase run time. If they try to double performance again (doubtful) then you may get similar run times compared to today's iPhone.

In the end you and I don't know what Apple will be focusing on in this model. As such there is little sense getting wrapped up in battery size discussions.
 
Here come the complainers.

True that.

It's so stupid, my 5S consistently gives me 2 days with heavy usage and everything turned on (4G, wifi, Bluetooth, lots of location, etc.) and a good brightness.

Benchmarks on various sites (gsmarena, anandtech, etc...) also give fairly good battery life to the 5S, specially for internet browsing and video watching.

However, the internet is full of this crap "capharge twice a day", how's that even possible? Omly if people use it constantly as a game boy.
 
Hardware is a huge factor here.

So does this not mean you should be concerned with the size of the battery?
Batteries are important but you can't have a rational discussion about them not knowing what the hardware driving them is. Hardware and software march side by side here to deliver low power usage.
I'm guessing we're not going to see radical changes in optimisation of battery life due to the software, so increasing the size is the next logical step?

Yes and no. Battery life will probably be enhanced through improvements to iOS but will just as likely be undermined by new features in iOS. Again though we can't really say anything here until the complete package ships.
 
True that.

It's so stupid, my 5S consistently gives me 2 days with heavy usage and everything turned on (4G, wifi, Bluetooth, lots of location, etc.) and a good brightness.

However, the internet is full of this crap "capharge twice a day", how's that even possible? Omly if people use it constantly as a game boy.

I wonder the same, how is it even possible to get 2 days with heavy usage out of a single charge??? I wonder what your definition of heavy is.
 
Sounds like it'll have similar battery life as the iPhone 5s at best, since any increased lifetime from that minor bump should easily be eaten up by the larger display. Unless iOS 8 does something differently than iOS 7.

You really can't say if the new screen will require more power. There are just way to many variable we don't know about.
 
doing some math, it's a 16% increase for a 17% increase in screen diagonal. what does that mean? probably nothing, just funny to point that out.
they could market it as: we made it xx% thinner and maintained the same screen size vs. battery capacity ratio!

being serious, i highly think that with this review they'll focus just on energy saving, rather than pure performance
 
I wonder the same, how is it even possible to get 2 days with heavy usage out of a single charge??? I wonder what your definition of heavy is.

It's impossible, full stop. For me with light usage (check some mails, facebook, etc) the battery barely lasts one day let alone 2
 
you all gotta relax.

apple isn't actually gonna release a new device and give it less battery life. they know they need more battery to power a bigger screen and the software will use the hardware as best as it can because both the hardware/software is by apple. with android it's different (excluding Nexus) because the os comes from google and the hardware from HTC, Samsung, Motorola etc.

the battery life will be fine for iphone 6. stop worrying/complaining. we all know you're gonna be pre ordering or standing in the line to buy it on release day anyway.
 
This doesn't sound good. The battery capacity increased 20% while the area of the screen (and thus backlight) will increase by about 38%. I don't claim to know the power draw of the screen, but my intuition tells me that you would need 38% more power to power 38% more screen. Anyone have any input on this?

Of course, this ignores the fact that the screen could be more efficient. And yes, I know that the A8 will be more efficient, but I doubt it'll be that good.
 
same for android phones. And you know what's worse? Since most Android phones' battery size is so much larger it takes forever to charge the battery.

I saw someone with a Nexus 5 yesterday. He carries a huge external battery pack (at least twice the size of the phone) and re-charges 2-3 times daily! He would love 16 hours battery life.

I agree with those who place battery life over thinness and weight. Once a device is thin and light enough (e.g. iPhone 4), I'd rather have one that lets me do more in a day.
 
Diffrience is android need a bigger battery as their quad core has as much power as the a7 chip but uses prob twice the power, this is where ios comes on and works wonders to the hardware, it always has always will
 
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