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But that screwed up so I'm back to the place order page. This is traumatizing. I wish I weren't drunk.

PowerBook 1.25GHz (15.2" TFT) Z07E 3-5 bus.days 1 $2,771.00 $2,771.00
1.25GHz PowerPC G4 065-4116
80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400 rpm 065-4544
SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) 065-4119
Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English 065-4495
1GB DDR333 SDRAM - 2x512 SO-DIMMs 065-4140
AirPort Extreme Card 065-4496
 
Is the new 15" the same thickness as the previous 15"? or did they trim some fat from the 12"? They have the same thickness now according to the specs.

Honestly, does the additional .25Ghz make a lot of difference? I am deciding between the 12" superdrive and the 15" superdrive.

Thanks for your input.
 
Originally posted by chazmox
So... does anyone know if increasing the L2 and dropping the L3 is an improvement???

Is this the 7457 or the 7447...

What was relayed on the macrumors IRC was that it is the 7457.
 
Re: New P-Books

Originally posted by gloftis
So far, nobody seems to have noticed that the WiFi Ghz gap has closed.

The Wintel notebooks with the "New Technology" Centrino processor comes in about 1.4 Ghz, with the bogus hyperthreading system to "accelerate" its effective clock speed.

There are Centrino laptops at 1.7GHz and (I may be mistaken) at 1.9GHz.
 
One more thing to say about the 12" PB: There's finally no more useless 128 MB module, the 256 MB are integrated into the mainboard, which means you can upgrade to 768 MB (instead of 640 MB) for the same money. Yeah! :)
 
Originally posted by crees!
What was relayed on the macrumors IRC was that it is the 7457.

I think L3 is a diff between the 2 proc.

7457 has it/7447 does not...
 
Originally posted by sacrilicious
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Definitely quote of the day... :)
 
Originally posted by cybermat
Is the new 15" the same thickness as the previous 15"? or did they trim some fat from the 12"? They have the same thickness now according to the specs.


The new 15" is 1.1" thick, up from 1".
The 12" is 1.18".

I'm still not sure if the 12" has the new 7457, too, as the architecture seems to be different from the 15" 1 Ghz?
 
Prices out of wack?

Is it just me or do the new prices of the PowerBook kill any possible sales of iBooks? A 12" PowerBook is $1799 vs. a 14" iBook at $1778. More power and for a $100 more Airport Extreme. Where were the iBook updates?
 
Finally PB arrived

Now finally the new PB arrived. But I must say that looking on the 15" specs I am a little bit disappointed. Why did it take nearly a year of development ? The backlit keyboard ? Surely not.
Maybe just the supply - but still some disappointment.

On the other hand it is just great that they finally arrived and all that endless (really endless) discussions and speculations can stop now (how about new iBooks BTW :)
 
Well, i finally ordered my 17inch powerbook for university. Can't wait till it comes. Luckily i ordered by phone as the website wasnt working and it turned out i qualified for an extra £200 off the price i thought it was. Woohoo. Also did anyone else notice they let you pick what rpm hd you want, 4200 or 5400.
 
Re: New P-Books

Originally posted by gloftis
So far, nobody seems to have noticed that the WiFi Ghz gap has closed.

The Wintel notebooks with the "New Technology" Centrino processor comes in about 1.4 Ghz, with the bogus hyperthreading system to "accelerate" its effective clock speed.

The PB 17 is now nominally just .67Ghz off that figure with a proven ability to blow the doors off a P4 at 1 Ghz.

I doubt we'll see a PB G5 because of the heat issue, but alll you whiners do a search on the IBM PPC 750VX, which, by some estimations, could reach clock speeds of 3Ghz+

Okay, point by misinformed point:

1) The Pentium-M is available at up to 1.7GHz

2) A 1.6 GHz Pentium-M is faster than a 2.4GHz P4-M, sometimes as fast as a 3 GHz P4-M. In fact, the P-M is actaully a good processor design from Intel, for once.

3) The P4 has HyperThreading. The P-M doesn't.

4) That means that the top-of-the-range PowerBook is 366MHz off the speed of the fastest P-M, with 1.8GHz P-M's available soon.

5) The P-M is competitive with the G4 clock-for-clock, and possibly faster given its faster bus and extra cache.

Centrino wireless LAN adaptors are a joke though - high power consumption, only 11mbps ... Intel are holding back the entire market.
 
no L3 cache???

poof! there goes the gains from a faster CPU/RAM combo... I can't imagine the boosted L2 will entirely make up for it...

oh well, will have to wait to see benchmarks. I will be using it for music/video 'field' production and live stuff... popular sentiment is that DAWs in particular drop in performance without the L3 in there....

hmmm, might have to stick with tracking down a 1Ghz TiBook after all.......

but otherwise, MAN, is it pretty :)

*sigh* to L3, or not to L3, that is the question....

tribalogical
 
Re: Prices out of wack?

Originally posted by gaijinjim
Is it just me or do the new prices of the PowerBook kill any possible sales of iBooks?

Well, at least now they finally *could* safely bring the iBook up to 1Ghz without killing any possible sales of Powerbooks!

IBM is probably sitting on much faster G3 processors right now that Apple just can't put in IBooks until the PBs go G5 in order not to hurt PB sales.
 
Originally posted by true777
how come everyone just so happens to be up so late tonight ? :)

Too much homework, over excited and couldn't sleep. You know I am an ex-PC user (Not anymore, just ordered my new 15" powerbook) and I've never been so excited about a computer release. If Apple doesn't update its powerbooks anytime soon, I don't think my heart can take it anymore. Thank goodness.. I must say part of this thrill converted me to apple :) These rumor sites also played a major role.

Anyway,

Cheers to all..
 
1.33GHz PowerPC G4, 512K L2 Cache
Yes it's a 7457 ...

Now I'm just waiting for the "but it's overclocked" spiel to start again.

Even though it's a 1300MHz part. :rolleyes:

Lack of L3 cache is a suprise.
 
Re: NOTHING GREAT on 12"

Originally posted by elkoreano
well, let's see what the 12" powerbook got..

1) alittle teeny bit of speed
2) more memory expandability, but we could have upgraded to over 640 with the previous model anyway
3) dvi output (HOORAY!!)
4) diff 32mb video card

i was hoping for:
1. pcmcia card slot to expand to firewire 800 or other things later
2. the same monitor they use on the 15" and 17".. it doesn't look like they used the same once again for the 12".. if someone can dispute this, please make me happy and tell me otherwise.. i'm talking about the quality.
3. 5200 rpms please..
4. speed up the combo drive will ya?
5. L3 no? come on..
6. backlit keyboard? don't discriminate!!

wow, i think that'd be the perfect 12" with those mods.

If you look at the xlr8yourmac.com site, some 4800 drives run faster than 5400 ones. often by a lot. higher numbers do not always mean faster speeds - look at Intel! ;) ;)
 
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