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New PowerBooks - Finally
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Thank you for straightening me out, hattig. I try to spend as little time in the Wintel world as possible.
NONETHELESS, the APPARENT gap has closed significantly. When you are talking <500 Mhz difference, it doesn't sound to Wintel users like a big deal. I will be curious to see how the PB 17 1.33 does against the P4-M du jour in actual application trials. Remember, the P4 folks are being burdened with Windows!
Thank you for straightening me out, hattig. I try to spend as little time in the Wintel world as possible.
NONETHELESS, the APPARENT gap has closed significantly. When you are talking <500 Mhz difference, it doesn't sound to Wintel users like a big deal. I will be curious to see how the PB 17 1.33 does against the P4-M du jour in actual application trials. Remember, the P4 folks are being burdened with Windows!
*yawn*
Its a portable iMac.
No, but seriously... not stellar. Surprised they made the 17" clock faster, especially after the lack of 15" updates.
Its a portable iMac.
No, but seriously... not stellar. Surprised they made the 17" clock faster, especially after the lack of 15" updates.
I want to see some UT2003 benchmarks on these new PowerBooks (mainly the 15in), I will hold off buying a new PB until then. If they are a lot slower than PC laptops, I will wait until January and hope for a PB G5.
$2168 for 15" PB w/AE & Backlit Keyboard!!
Sorry for all the abbreviations and WELCOME ALL YOU SWITCHERS!!
The backlit keyboard is a $69.00 option for the $1,999.00 15" PowerBook.
Add an Airport Extreme card for $99.00 and you get a good system for $2,168 + tax.
Assuming of course that you don't need a SuperDrive [I already have one in my desktop], that you don't mind getting 3rd party RAM [I don't], and that you don't mind "only" 1Ghz [I don't].
After all, this system is just going to tie me over until next summer/fall when I'll sell it and buy a G5 PowerBook.
Me so horn...um, I mean...happy!!
Sorry for all the abbreviations and WELCOME ALL YOU SWITCHERS!!
The backlit keyboard is a $69.00 option for the $1,999.00 15" PowerBook.
Add an Airport Extreme card for $99.00 and you get a good system for $2,168 + tax.
Assuming of course that you don't need a SuperDrive [I already have one in my desktop], that you don't mind getting 3rd party RAM [I don't], and that you don't mind "only" 1Ghz [I don't].
After all, this system is just going to tie me over until next summer/fall when I'll sell it and buy a G5 PowerBook.
Me so horn...um, I mean...happy!!
Well, not in every situation but I can remember benchmarks where a G3 with 512 KB L2 cache was faster than a G4 with 256 KB L2 + L3 cache because of the double L2 cache (no Altivec operations, same Mhz). It depends on the situation but all in all I would agree with you, it's more a step back than forward, but a short one
. But these new chips are said to need less power, so I guess they run cooler. Man, my PB 12" gets really HOT sometimes
Originally posted by MCPeck
Our hope has been realized!
and....
I am now an official SWITCHER !!
...
I don't think I can sleep tonight ! (soo excited
Me, too.Re: Re: Prices out of wack?
I don't really think it would have killed the sale of PowerBooks considering the target market. iBooks being for consumer, PB being for Pros. But for the average consumer looking at it now, I would think that they would seriously question buying an iBook looking at the small price difference and difference in CPUs. I am.
Up until two weeks ago, I was still using my five-year-old WallSt. before it died on me. I'm not going to waste anymore time on it trying to fix it. May give it one last shot but who knows, but that's beside the point. What I'm trying to say is that I really didn't use the PB for intensive stuff, that's why I have a PMG4. But for new buyers.
Also, I read some where that IBM has a new chip based on the G3 with the Velocity Engine, so Apple could market it as a G4. Can't remember which rumor site I saw that on. Sorry.
I don't really think it would have killed the sale of PowerBooks considering the target market. iBooks being for consumer, PB being for Pros. But for the average consumer looking at it now, I would think that they would seriously question buying an iBook looking at the small price difference and difference in CPUs. I am.
Up until two weeks ago, I was still using my five-year-old WallSt. before it died on me. I'm not going to waste anymore time on it trying to fix it. May give it one last shot but who knows, but that's beside the point. What I'm trying to say is that I really didn't use the PB for intensive stuff, that's why I have a PMG4. But for new buyers.
Also, I read some where that IBM has a new chip based on the G3 with the Velocity Engine, so Apple could market it as a G4. Can't remember which rumor site I saw that on. Sorry.
15" with L3 Cache ?
Hi,
if you lookat the apple site
http://www.apple.com/de/powerbook/index15.html
you will see in the description for the 15" that it has L3 Cache ? So what is true ? Has it L3 cache or not ? Is it just a mistake on the german site ?
Cheers
The us apple site says:
Hi,
if you lookat the apple site
http://www.apple.com/de/powerbook/index15.html
you will see in the description for the 15" that it has L3 Cache ? So what is true ? Has it L3 cache or not ? Is it just a mistake on the german site ?
Cheers
The us apple site says:
Originally posted by sacrilicious
Welcome, both of you!
I'm sure I speak for most of us when I say that.
I must say I was abit dissapointed to see only a .33Mhz increase in processor speed, but to be able to have 2 gigs of memory and a 64mb video card.... it's almost like a dream come true. Oh yeah can't forget the USB2 as well. (btw I'm talking about the 17" version )
)
Jeez, what did you expect?
A 3 Ghz G5?
This is a nice update to get Apple gracefully through the months
until they have the PB G5 ready. The new PBs are reasonable choices
for folks who need a PB right now.
That's so they've got something to announce at MWSF next year
G5's? Hmm, next Sept I reckon ;-)
e.
Thank you for everyone welcoming us to the Dark Side, I am happily surprised by the well-wishers.
Mmmmm, only 3-5 Days
......"Pinky! Are you pondering, what I'm pondering?".......
lol, "I think so Brain, but what if the hippos don't want to wear pajamas?"
Mmmmm, only 3-5 Days
......"Pinky! Are you pondering, what I'm pondering?".......
lol, "I think so Brain, but what if the hippos don't want to wear pajamas?"
>CmdrLaForge
I downloaded the new 09/16/2003 15-inch PowerBook pdf
No mention of Level 3 cache, it may take Apple a couple days to clean up the scattered L3 references on the sites.
I downloaded the new 09/16/2003 15-inch PowerBook pdf
No mention of Level 3 cache, it may take Apple a couple days to clean up the scattered L3 references on the sites.