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Originally posted by drastik
Sometimes I think you people would complain the our porche burns too much gas.

Actually, back when i had a boxster, i did complain about the gas milage. :-D I was at the gas station twice a week buying premium.

Wish i still had that car - had to sell it to fund an MBA+living expenses. And now I'm stuck in a white collar recession so I can't afford a new one. But thankfully a Powerbook is a lot cheaper that a Porsche so I can still manage that. :-D

Anyway, my point is, if you spend a lot of money on something, you are allowed to complain about it occasionally. :) Apple has enough of my money so I don't feel too bad about criticizing them once in a while, or telling them what they need to do in order to get even more of my money, sooner!
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the screenresolution..?

Originally posted by rjstanford
Ya know, he's got a point. This is supposed to be the pro notebook, aimed at pro users with pro requirements and all that rot.

Maybe the pros should get a dual 2GHz G5 with a huge LCD screen of their liking?
 
Re: Prices out of wack?

Originally posted by gaijinjim
Is it just me or do the new prices of the PowerBook kill any possible sales of iBooks? A 12" PowerBook is $1799 vs. a 14" iBook at $1778. More power and for a $100 more Airport Extreme. Where were the iBook updates?

Exactly, there needs to be either an update or a price reduction on the iBooks.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the screenresolution..?

Originally posted by reflex
Maybe the pros should get a dual 2GHz G5 with a huge LCD screen of their liking?
Unfortunately, packing it up for business trips is inconvenient. Not to mention the inevitable annoyances of trying to use such a system on a plane.

-Richard
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the screenresolution..?

Originally posted by reflex
Maybe the pros should get a dual 2GHz G5 with a huge LCD screen of their liking?
Yeah, bringing a G5 with a 23" HD display on the plane would be great!
 
Ask and ye shall receive

The Apple Store in in Clarendon (Arlington, VA) has the 15" SuperDrive models in stock and on display. Woohoo! I know where I'm dropping by after work!
 
Why does Apple only offer hard drives w/ 4200 RPM for the 15 inch models? A 5100 RPM 80 GB hard drive is offered for an extra $200, but that's too much for storage.
 
Originally posted by Nicky G
And the prices?! Is this the cheapest the lineup's ever been? Best value, definitely -- I can't believe the 17" is $3K, with Superdrive and 512MB! Holy Cow!!!

Lotsa people buyin' Powerbooks today, fo' sho'. :)

Placed my order for a tricked out 17 w 1.5GB RAM, 5400rpm drive and a whole bunch of other goodies:D

5-7 Business days on the PB, so hopefully they have a good supply and it's only the CTO that's going to take that time:rolleyes: (NO repeat of the G5 fiasco, please!)

Seems like a good update, even without a G5 ;)

At least, I'm happy with it!

:cool:

MM
 
Delivery time is terrible!

In the time it took to read this thread the stock appears to have depleted BIG TIME. The shipping date for my 15" is estimated as 4-6 WEEKS! Quite a shock after reading the other posts here...
:confused: :mad:
 
Originally posted by brooklyn
Two-week-old Mac User Here.

I finally saw the light and jump over to the Mac-side two weeks ago. I purchased a 12 PowerBook without knowing that newer models were being released soon. Is it possible (after 2 Weeks) to exchange my two-week old "outdated" model for the current one? I figure I ask here before calling Apple! Thanks


Originally posted by jxyama
No. And your machine is not "outdated."

Actually, yes you can. Here is the quote from the email invoice from the AppleStore:

RETURN & REFUND POLICY If you are not satisfied with your Apple purchase of a
pre-built product, please call 1-800-676-2775 for a Return Material Authorization
(RMA) request within 10 business days of the receipt of the product. If the item
is returned unopened in the original box, we will exchange it or offer you a
refund based on your original method of payment. The product must be returned to
the Apple warehouse within 10 business days of the issuance of the RMA. All
products must be packed in the original, unmarked packaging including any
accessories, manuals, documentation and registration that shipped with the
product. A 10% open box fee will be assessed on any opened hardware or accessory.
If you purchased your order using an Apple Instant Loan or an Apple Business
Lease, you may be asked to provide a major credit card (Visa, MasterCard,
American Express, or Discover) for Apple to assess the 10% open box restocking
fee.

Please note that Apple does not permit the return of or offer refunds for the
following products:

1. Product that is custom configured to your specifications
2. Opened memory
3. Opened software
4. Electronic software downloads

So basically if it's within 10 business days of when you recieved it, and you're willing to get stuck with a 10% restocking fee, then call Apple.
 
I was going to get an iBook, but they really dont seem like good value anymore - a major upgrade or a major price cut is needed.
 
Just one more thing!

Well thats it im getting a PB, but i just need Panther to be released since im not thrilled about ordering a new 15" and then having to purchase panther in a month or so. Well I guess its a good thing I can't buy one till December.
 
Re: Ask and ye shall receive

Originally posted by justytylor
The Apple Store in in Clarendon (Arlington, VA) has the 15" SuperDrive models in stock and on display. Woohoo! I know where I'm dropping by after work!

I think I might just stop by after class... or skip out of class early just to take a peak since I'm in Rosslyn.
 
Re: Discounted upgrade to Panther later?

Originally posted by milksheikh
OK, so if you buy a PB today, will Apple offer a $20 (or less) upgrade to Panther when it is released? Any thoughts (based on previous "Up-to-date" programs)?

No, if the history is any indication.
 
Originally posted by JBracy
Actually, yes you can. Here is the quote from the email invoice from the AppleStore:



So basically if it's within 10 business days of when you recieved it, and you're willing to get stuck with a 10% restocking fee, then call Apple.

look, he's had his for 2 weeks, which is at least 10 business days. with 10% stocking fee, it's not an "upgrade" - it's a return followed by another purchase.

if he's willing to pay $150+ to "upgrade" (not to mention "waiting" for the new 12" PB like others), then be my guest... but as he was originally asking, trading in your recently upgraded computer for the new one, the answer is no, as it is for most other computer vendors, i believe.
 
Holy Crap!!!

Anyone take a look at the apple store for education prices?

$100-$300 discount for those new powerbooks.

Get a 15" superdrive for $2299...Thats pretty good!

I love being married to a teacher :) :)
 
I'm flip flopping between the two; just doing a simple price comparision ignoring the bells and whistles (Bluetooth, USB 2.0, etc.), I get:

"Onboard" stock memory
BTO to 60GB drive
Combo drive
Airport (or Extreme card)
Apple Care

iBook 12" = $1,677
PB 12" = $2,097

Still a $420 difference as far as straight cash goes and will contribute to a new 17-40 F4.0 L lens for my Canon quite nicely...

How much lower "should" the iBook be?

Cheers.

Not to mention out here in Japan, we are seeing some odd price discrepancies for BTO options. Even with the exchange rate inflated, the unit out here is costing at least $150-200 more...

Originally posted by MacSA
I was going to get an iBook, but they really dont seem like good value anymore - a major upgrade or a major price cut is needed.
 
Originally posted by machem
I would call and push them to include the adapter. If you bought today, you 'd get one (according to the spec sheet). The idea here is that it shouldn't cost extra to use the hardware. I think if you squeak they will give it to you to shut you up. ;)

The spec sheet says:
S-video and composite video output using mini-DVI to video adapter (sold separately) (12-inch models)

I guess I could call and complain b/c I'm actually losing a feature from the model I ordered (the old 12" came with this video adapter). However, I am gaining quite a bit :)
 
My second blessing...

I ordered a 15 GB iPod and at 12" PB (60 GB HD, 640 MB Ram, COMBO, and APE Card) on 9/4/03. Both were upgraded to the new products before shipping.

The iPod was upgraded to the 20GB model at no additional charge. It shipped last Thursday.

The new 12" PB is configured with (60 GB HD, 768 MB RAM, COMBO, and APE Card) at the same price as the orginal ($1668). That system would now cost ($1803) at Apple Education Store so I am extrememly blessed. :D

The PB is scheduled to ship 9/25/03.
 
Originally posted by jxyama
look, he's had his for 2 weeks, which is at least 10 business days. with 10% stocking fee, it's not an "upgrade" - it's a return followed by another purchase.

if he's willing to pay $150+ to "upgrade" (not to mention "waiting" for the new 12" PB like others), then be my guest... but as he was originally asking, trading in your recently upgraded computer for the new one, the answer is no, as it is for most other computer vendors, i believe.

Man, chill.

My point was that technically if he really wanted the new one and had had his current one for less than 10 BUSINESS days (2 weeks is exactly 10 business days FYI) then he could return it and buy the new one. If he does not have all of the origional packaging, then he will get stuck with a 10% charge, but if everything is exactly like new then he's OK.

I just got my 17" last week, so I'm debating sending it back and getting the 15", but probably won't as I got it for $2500 through an Apple employee.
 
hmm, i wonder why they didn't use the 1.42 Ghz for the top end? ahh, they'll probably use that for the update 1 year from now and move the 1.33 Ghz for the 12". year of the laptop huh?
 
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