Re: Mini DVI - DVI
But the third adapter, mini-DVI to video, is sold separately ($19 on the Apple store)
But the third adapter, mini-DVI to video, is sold separately ($19 on the Apple store)
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New PowerBooks - Finally
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A 25% speed improvement and a new case after 11 months of waiting? At least when it comes to computers, that's not really that big of a deal. It only seems like one because of the extended period of nothing before it.
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Re: wow, 12 inches, really?
The 7457 uses less power so logically it should dissipate less heat.
A lot of the rumors said they were going to try and get the 12" down to 1" thick, and they didn't-- I would guess that the thinner model ran too hot so they left it alone.
The 7457 uses less power so logically it should dissipate less heat.
A lot of the rumors said they were going to try and get the 12" down to 1" thick, and they didn't-- I would guess that the thinner model ran too hot so they left it alone.
Re: Value of backlit keyboard
It also makes it a killer presentation machine. (Connected to a projector.) Then you can be at the podeum without an extra light on the keyboard.
<Sorry for the spelling, on a PC ATM.
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It also makes it a killer presentation machine. (Connected to a projector.) Then you can be at the podeum without an extra light on the keyboard.
<Sorry for the spelling, on a PC ATM.
)I have my 12 in pbook for a month already..after seeing that new 12 in. has DVI out and its compatible (after the 99 dollars adapter) with Apple displays, im wondering:
Can u buy the DVI out cable (im guessing its like the VGA out)? and do u think the old 12 in pbook videocard could support at least a 20" apple display?
Can u buy the DVI out cable (im guessing its like the VGA out)? and do u think the old 12 in pbook videocard could support at least a 20" apple display?
Just ordered mine. Looks great but...
4-6 WEEKS??? WHAT HAPPENED TO 3-4 DAYS?????????????
*sobs uncontrolably*
On the plus sde, my tricked out 1.25 ghz 15 inch with backlight, and 1 gig of ram colst me 2500 thanks to student discount
4-6 WEEKS??? WHAT HAPPENED TO 3-4 DAYS?????????????
*sobs uncontrolably*
On the plus sde, my tricked out 1.25 ghz 15 inch with backlight, and 1 gig of ram colst me 2500 thanks to student discount
Grrrr. On the flipside, I missed out on (1) and (2) because my deadline was the start of school. I had to buy last month. Grrrr.
cache
I am not going to bother reading all the posts....
L2 cache is faster and more important than L3 cache is.
Doubling the L2 far outgains losing the L3. It also makes the hardware slightly less complicated, which is a good thing!
L3 cache was used as a stopgap measure before due to the inadequate amount of L2 cache on previous gen G4's.
I am not going to bother reading all the posts....
L2 cache is faster and more important than L3 cache is.
Doubling the L2 far outgains losing the L3. It also makes the hardware slightly less complicated, which is a good thing!
L3 cache was used as a stopgap measure before due to the inadequate amount of L2 cache on previous gen G4's.
Re: Re: Re: wow, 12 inches, really?
True, but still... less total heat inside the case should help.
True, but still... less total heat inside the case should help.
p4 comparison
I read may benchmark that said that a 1ghz mac (133 bus, sdram) were at least eqal to a 1,5 P4 desktop so a 1,33 ghz (167 bus, ddr ram) should be at least equal to a 2.1 - 2.2 ghz P4 desktop. Not to bad for a portable. Plus, panther is suppose to bring about 15-20 % more speed to your G4
Last year I work on after effect project all day long on a Athlon XP 1,2 ghz (512 ram) and it get the jobs done very well...now we have P4 running at 2.4 ghz (1 gig ram) and the job is not going 2X faster....so these powerbook will be just fine..even for the most demanding PROSUMER
Ad to this FW 800, bluetooht, backlight keyboard and airport extreme and it's a pretty good deal I say.
according to Tom's Hardware, a P4M running at 2.5 ghz is roughly equal to a 2.1-2.2 ghz P4 desktop. SO PLEASE STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT SPEED.
The real thing is the OS and the software.
Sorry for my english I normally speak french (Quebec)
I read may benchmark that said that a 1ghz mac (133 bus, sdram) were at least eqal to a 1,5 P4 desktop so a 1,33 ghz (167 bus, ddr ram) should be at least equal to a 2.1 - 2.2 ghz P4 desktop. Not to bad for a portable. Plus, panther is suppose to bring about 15-20 % more speed to your G4
Last year I work on after effect project all day long on a Athlon XP 1,2 ghz (512 ram) and it get the jobs done very well...now we have P4 running at 2.4 ghz (1 gig ram) and the job is not going 2X faster....so these powerbook will be just fine..even for the most demanding PROSUMER
Ad to this FW 800, bluetooht, backlight keyboard and airport extreme and it's a pretty good deal I say.
according to Tom's Hardware, a P4M running at 2.5 ghz is roughly equal to a 2.1-2.2 ghz P4 desktop. SO PLEASE STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT SPEED.
The real thing is the OS and the software.
Sorry for my english I normally speak french (Quebec)
I have to agree. No one in their right mind would use a laptop for their main 3D modeling machine.. although travelling it can work. Apple is about the feature set. Just because the mobile is a little slower than the PC doesn't mean it's not mch more useful.
I, for one, am seriously looking at the 1.25 Ghz 15".
Re: more p4 showdown
Yes, it does. It's as fast as OS 9 in single processor tasks, and (obviously) much faster when running more than one.
My ovbservations are subjective, but GUI lag was not a concern on an 800 Mhz iMac that I've tested it on (pretty thoroughly I might add.)
I think perceived lag on laptops will be a thing of the past. I am MORE excited for Panther than I was for Jaguar. Since OS X was introduced, I think Panther is going to be the most significant update. I'm VERY impressed with the feature set and performance.
Yes, it does. It's as fast as OS 9 in single processor tasks, and (obviously) much faster when running more than one.
My ovbservations are subjective, but GUI lag was not a concern on an 800 Mhz iMac that I've tested it on (pretty thoroughly I might add.)
I think perceived lag on laptops will be a thing of the past. I am MORE excited for Panther than I was for Jaguar. Since OS X was introduced, I think Panther is going to be the most significant update. I'm VERY impressed with the feature set and performance.
Re: Re: more p4 showdown
Indeed. I was hoping that Panther might have been officially released yesterday, but oh well. I'm so excited for the end of the year so I can get it, it can only be a few months more.
Indeed. I was hoping that Panther might have been officially released yesterday, but oh well. I'm so excited for the end of the year so I can get it, it can only be a few months more.
Yes, indeed. My only concern with a 7200 RPM drive is that, like almost any PC laptop, the battery life would be about an hour and a half. I think with a 5400 you might have a happy medium of performance to battery life. PC users are used to having crappy laptops.
I would like to see some numbers on the drive performance, since the lower RPM drive may be just about as fast but add an hour to the battery life....
Re: p4 comparison
But what's that got to do with a powerbook, which is well behind? It's a perfectly legitimate complaint - Apple computers are, for the most part, less responsive than PCs. When I click on a menu option in OS X (on a 700MHz eMac with 386Mb) it takes a perceptable amount of time for the menu to appear - not so on my Windows machine. This is the sort of thing that really worries me as a potential switcher considering a Powerbook 15" 1.25GHz.
Just how much faster will my (probable) new PB be compared to my work eMac?
Or are you guys basically saying that I should stick to wintel if I want speed? After all, why jump down people's throats the second they suggest that quicker computers would be nice? 25% in 11 months isn't Moore's law, is it?
But what's that got to do with a powerbook, which is well behind? It's a perfectly legitimate complaint - Apple computers are, for the most part, less responsive than PCs. When I click on a menu option in OS X (on a 700MHz eMac with 386Mb) it takes a perceptable amount of time for the menu to appear - not so on my Windows machine. This is the sort of thing that really worries me as a potential switcher considering a Powerbook 15" 1.25GHz.
Just how much faster will my (probable) new PB be compared to my work eMac?
Or are you guys basically saying that I should stick to wintel if I want speed? After all, why jump down people's throats the second they suggest that quicker computers would be nice? 25% in 11 months isn't Moore's law, is it?
Re: Re: Re: more p4 showdown
One other thing I noticed, since we're on the subject, was that animations took less time in Panther. It might be that some of the "speed up" is due to less whiz-bang animation time. For example, the dialog moxes that come down from the titlebar of a window happen in maybe a half second. They used to take over a second... and I don't think that was because of a processor limitation. I think it was a hardcoded timeframe.
A lot of perceived slowness in a GUI can be the "snappiness" factor of elements. The less time you spend animating from point A to point B, the faster the perceived performance. That's why OS 9 windows would seem faster... they wouldn't wait around for a nice animation, etc.
Your thoughts?
One other thing I noticed, since we're on the subject, was that animations took less time in Panther. It might be that some of the "speed up" is due to less whiz-bang animation time. For example, the dialog moxes that come down from the titlebar of a window happen in maybe a half second. They used to take over a second... and I don't think that was because of a processor limitation. I think it was a hardcoded timeframe.
A lot of perceived slowness in a GUI can be the "snappiness" factor of elements. The less time you spend animating from point A to point B, the faster the perceived performance. That's why OS 9 windows would seem faster... they wouldn't wait around for a nice animation, etc.
Your thoughts?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the screenresolution..?
I know. But saying someone should get an iBook just because they mostly do wordprocessing is lame too.
Btw, I don't mean to cause offense. I just mean you shouldn't decide for other people what kind of computer they should get. For me, a good resolution for a 15" screen would be 1024x768 (wider for widescreen obviously), so the current 15" resolution is stretching it a bit already.
I know. But saying someone should get an iBook just because they mostly do wordprocessing is lame too.
Btw, I don't mean to cause offense. I just mean you shouldn't decide for other people what kind of computer they should get. For me, a good resolution for a 15" screen would be 1024x768 (wider for widescreen obviously), so the current 15" resolution is stretching it a bit already.
I agree, it seems like they are fast too, although it might not be less animations, they just are able to change the OS to respond faster. It would be nice to have the "fast windows" from OS 9 into OS X.