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New PowerMac G4 Enclosure (new)

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Have to discount the PDF

The PDF draws the ports on the back very close together (non-proportional maybe).

On the red eBay motherboard there was a mystery port between FireWire and the Ethernet port and a gap between the audio ports again.

So unless the drawing is not to scale/proprortion of what really is, there should be some gaps between ports AND either a mystery port or a gap where one USED TO BE.

Its unfortunate that Apple, if this is all accurate, constantly witholds technology for various reasons. Apple created FireWire for pete's sake, why not add the next gen of it and let it be adopted like they did for USB?

At some point I must justify the higher costs of buying a Mac using 3-4 year old technology. If Apple doesn't move forward on 50% of what its selling technology-wise what is the point in upgradin to get simply a fast CPU?

The new G4 should AT LEAST have ATA/133, DDR RAM, new bus/controller and a newer design of G4 not just a speed bumped 7455. This new G4 looks like a rehashing of the current QuickSilver. Whoopee.

AirPort can be upgraded and should have been by now both in the underlying hardware and speed/features.

FireWire 2 should definately be possible, Apple should know above all else how to implement it.

Apple actually increased its cash to 4.3 billion - BILLION - even after buying a dozen companies the past year plus. Innovate on the hardware AND software Apple. I cant download a new FireWire port or faster ATA!
 
Originally posted by Backtothemac
Damn, groove, can you not have a normal conversation with people! Do you have access to the private forums? No, then don't assume you know everything that goes on around here. You can debate the rumor without offending the person.
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Oh yes, I can... if you maybe would also read other threads I posted at, you wouldn't say something stupid like that.

At the moment I am just in a very bad mood towards everything labeled "Apple" and when on top there is a little freak telliing me that he knows something but he can't tell me for not to uncover his identity after he supposevily posted a already a PDF that spills a lot of beans about the coming up PowerMacs... it is enough!

Also... why is it your concern anyway?

If I would take everything personal what people already told me without any reason on this forum, I would have committed suicide already!

groovebuster
 
Originally posted by Backtothemac
There is no doubt that this is real. The case is not photoshoped, but we are looking at a prototype that did not make the cut. That is all.
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It may be the real deal, but i dont know about no photoshop job on this image, look:

red: the edge of the case has been heavily blurred, plus the handle (bottom in the red circle that is) looks out of place, it seems to be sticking outwards rather then under the case.

green: the case has been cut (poorly i might add) out from another image, but maybe that is because he/she wanted to conceal it original identity.

i think this its a prototype cos it looks a bit **** and Apple dont do sh#t, after all there is 6 or was it 10 case prototype out there right

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Attachment removed at the request of Apple Legal

arn]
 
Originally posted by Mr Jobs
i think this its a prototype cos it looks a bit **** and Apple dont do sh#t, after all there is 6 or was it 10 case prototype out there right
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Remember all those rumors about 10 different case designs going into MWNY? This could be one.
 
Originally posted by iH8Quark
groove, you f*cked it up for everyone.

If you can't control your bad moods, they make a pill for that. it's called prozac. :rolleyes:
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Yep, he sure did didn't he. He had to go and keep questioning APPLEP58 about everything. Come on groove, take everything with a grain of salt. It's sort of hard to prove things over an online forum.
 
APPLEP58's posts, looking back, were usually pretty good. I think he probably did know at least something more than any of the rest of us do.

geez...i hope the chap comes back.
 
not to double post, but does anyone know:

If the board has RapidIO, could it get away with only having SDRAM? Any chance those diagrams meant DDR SDRAM?
 
Originally posted by iH8Quark
not to double post, but does anyone know:

If the board has RapidIO, could it get away with only having SDRAM?
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Double Data Rate SDRAM is able to provide twice the bandwidth of Single Data Rate by transferring data both on the rising and the falling edge of the clock signal. This means we could be seeing DDR on the motherboard, it would make sense. Rapid I/O would be worthless without DDR or RDRAM anyway, RDRAM being 2 channels of DDR joined together to form a quad pumped memory path.

I'm quite impressed with the case apart from the totally out of place metal drive bays on the front.

I just hope this means we're getting faster G4s with DDR and all the extra expansion options this case would offer and for no more than the current range of G4s cost.
 
For all you people worrying about the fact that it might be sdram:

sekrit.jpg


Those slots are DDR, you people have nothing to worry about...
 
Re: Have to discount the PDF

Originally posted by Sayer
The PDF draws the ports on the back very close together (non-proportional maybe).

On the red eBay motherboard there was a mystery port between FireWire and the Ethernet port and a gap between the audio ports again.

So unless the drawing is not to scale/proprortion of what really is, there should be some gaps between ports AND either a mystery port or a gap where one USED TO BE.

Its unfortunate that Apple, if this is all accurate, constantly witholds technology for various reasons. Apple created FireWire for pete's sake, why not add the next gen of it and let it be adopted like they did for USB?

At some point I must justify the higher costs of buying a Mac using 3-4 year old technology. If Apple doesn't move forward on 50% of what its selling technology-wise what is the point in upgradin to get simply a fast CPU?

The new G4 should AT LEAST have ATA/133, DDR RAM, new bus/controller and a newer design of G4 not just a speed bumped 7455. This new G4 looks like a rehashing of the current QuickSilver. Whoopee.

AirPort can be upgraded and should have been by now both in the underlying hardware and speed/features.

FireWire 2 should definately be possible, Apple should know above all else how to implement it.

Apple actually increased its cash to 4.3 billion - BILLION - even after buying a dozen companies the past year plus. Innovate on the hardware AND software Apple. I cant download a new FireWire port or faster ATA!
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

Well... actually, I have. I've been saying this stuff for awhile. But anyway, point being I WANT A BETTER COMPUTER.

I am about to buy a new computer. I don't want another Wintel. AMD notwithstanding, WINDOWS SUX. I have a cheapy with Win98, but having played with XP, don't get me started. I want OS X.

But I want current technology. DDR-Ram is nice. If it can speed up a Celeron (we tested a MotherBoard with both DDR and SD-Ram. Trust me, DDR is better, and not that much more expensive for what you get), it can give the G4 the speed it needs. Look at the xServe, even if the DDR is bastardized, it still gives it a boost.

And ATA/133 is a must, even though I know we'll be lucky to get ATA/100. Don't give me that tired old argument that ATA/66 is all you'll ever need. ATA/100 is faster enough to justify. Do they even make ATA/66 Drives anymore? Besides, how am I supposed to access newer drives over 128-137 GB? You have to have ATA/133.

I want one of those Western Digital 200 GB Drive that they just announced. ATA/133 only. I'll have to buy a PCI card, but that proves they could implement it on the MotherBoard. How many ATA/133 Cards do they have out there now? I guess they just want you to buy new computers every year (well, they are a business).

I do digital video, so I need all the speed I can get. But if I'm spending $3000+ for a computer, I expect it to have today's technology. I shouldn't have to spend more to fill up precious PCI slots for TODAY's technology, most of it standard. It's not like I'm asking for onboard SCSI or anything (can't afford thousands of $$$ just for the drives). I'm not even asking for RAID implementation, just a better IDE. Sheesh!

So who cares about what it looks like on the outside. Make it biege for all I care (no, wait... don't do that after all), but make it state-of-the-art INSIDE. FW 2 not being in there yet I can see, and no USB 2 to compete with FW 1, but at least use TODAY's stuff. Case, shmase, WHAT'S INSIDE? You want us to pay PRO prices, give us PRO machines.

P.S. groove, don't worry about it. If this is the real deal, he didn't have much to tell us that we couldn't have seen somewhere else anyway. And that comment about never posting again reminded me of that whole "well, if you don't do things my way, I'm taking my ball and going home" thing. If he had anything good to say, he wouldn't have been so offended so easily. "Put up, or shut up" I say. Like he was doing us a favor or anything (okay, well, he might have been, but still).

The guy doesn't even know how to attach an image (sorry, but the more I think about it, what the guy said really pisses me off. To get so mad over something that wasn't even that rude). He hasn't even proven himself yet (I've checked his other posts, nothing much). You want to prove yourself to be real, stand up for yourself and post something good for pete's sake. Don't just p*ssy out and blame someone who hurt your "wittle feewings" (sic - BTW).

There, now I've really pissed him off.

But I hope the cases don't look like this (and I don't think they will). We'll see in a few weeks.

[Sorry, but I'm in a bad mood, my parents came up this weekend]
 
Ugly...

Personally I don't like that particualar case. It's really ugly. Although it would work with the prototype mobo seen on ebay, with the PCI and AGP ports on the top etc. I think it's just one of the many prototype cases that apple's testing.

PS: Why can't I post replys to the headline rumor threads, why can't I post attachments, and why can't I make new threads! Maybe I should email arn to ask.
 
I'm not sold on the white plastic and shiney metal combination on the front of the tower but it's a hell of lot more stylish than the B & W G3 was with it's puke blue/green colour, the huge G3 on the side and that nasty little iMac yo yo mouse and keyboard. That thing looked like a cool bag, I was suprised it didn't come full of lager or pepsi when I first used one and that eject door was a joke, saying that, at least you COULD eject from the case!

Basically they could put it in whatever case they want as far as I'm concerned, it just makes a lot of sense that they're design is going all smokey white now, it's very stylish, minimal and futuristic looking, the metal area on the front of the case has got to go though, it just look out of place.
 
SDRAM can mean DDR

People are freaking out because the PDF says "SDRAM". That doesn't mean it's not DDR. The full name of DDR is "DDR SDRAM". DDR is just an abbreviation for double data rate. Double data rate synchronous dynamic random access memory.
 
Originally posted by Mr Jobs


It may be the real deal, but i dont know about no photoshop job on this image, look:

red: the edge of the case has been heavily blurred, plus the handle (bottom in the red circle that is) looks out of place, it seems to be sticking outwards rather then under the case.

green: the case has been cut (poorly i might add) out from another image, but maybe that is because he/she wanted to conceal it original identity.

i think this its a prototype cos it looks a bit **** and Apple dont do sh#t, after all there is 6 or was it 10 case prototype out there right
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That's not blur, that's the fact that there's no edge and the photo is washed out.

The 'cuts' you see on the handle are actually the plastic sheet that is stuck to the side of the tower.

The jaggies are all over that photo, not just on the bbottom edge.
 
This is funny, everyone is freaking out and saying this is a prototype because it's ugly. Everyone said the same thing when the prototype Quicksilver cases leaked a while back. Of course things will be changed to improve the appearance, Apple isn't going to release something that looks like crap.
 
Re: SDRAM can mean DDR

Originally posted by Galahad
The full name of DDR is "DDR SDRAM". DDR is just an abbreviation for double data rate. Double data rate synchronous dynamic random access memory.
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Everybody check out the big brain on Galahad. :p :p :p ;)
 
Originally posted by asurace
I tried to fix it up in Photoshop but I didn't have much to work with:
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Now it looks like one of those ice sculptures that sits in the middle of your easter brunch buffet at the Holiday Inn ballroom.

Actually, if hey did that, they wouldn't need such a huge heat sync. Now that's thinking different. It's the new ICE line. :D

Oh...I can see the ads now. they're gonna pull Vanilla outta retirement.
"Ice Ice baby" :eek: :D :p
 
Originally posted by iH8Quark


Now it looks like one of those ice sculptures that sits in the middle of your easter brunch buffet at the Holiday Inn ballroom.
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Better then looking like glowing saran wrap though ;)
 
~solvs

Right ON!

I agree totally. that PRO prices mean PRO specs, or should mean that!

Groovebuster~ well , you have gone and made the guy run away, but I think he was looking for a REASON!

Cause you did put those faces on the end of your anger. But I have to admit that even I was wondering what you were trying to say.

Was IT, I HATE you , no wait , I like you , no wait Just kidding!

Wait a minute thats the way I feel towards APPLE right now! LOL

HE should have hung out and explained a bit more on the RAM for sure! or specs.
 
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