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New PowerMac G4 Enclosure (new)

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Well everything looks nice, does anyone have an idea to the speed? Are we even looking at a speed bump?

The PDF says the new design is G5 ready, but are we getting anything above 1GHz? What about the rumors of the using the IBM chips?

Any advice on this would help as I am looking to buy some new machines right away. The ddr ram is nice, but what I really want is some mac running at 2GHz!
 
New here Zdnet says G5 is launched?

Hey folks am new here infact am planning to shift to the mac community with the new powermac arrival on ZDnet can someone tell me whats this about motorola launching the G5 is that true? and if yes then does it mean the powermac will have the G5? here is the link at Zdnet http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-945430.html

thanx
 
Re: New here Zdnet says G5 is launched?

Originally posted by kidinapple
Hey folks am new here infact am planning to shift to the mac community with the new powermac arrival on ZDnet can someone tell me whats this about motorola launching the G5 is that true? and if yes then does it mean the powermac will have the G5? here is the link at Zdnet http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-945430.html

thanx
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Hi, welcome to the Mac community.

There has been some uncertantity over the G5. Some say it is ready for production and finished, others say it is not. Other just say that motorola has not built the special plant it needs in France ?!? (don't me why they would build them there anyway). Others say so many out of each batch are faulty. For that reason others argue they can't produce in volume, or they can't sustain the failures costwise. (All of this concerns the Desktop G5, not the embedded).

However, the embedded version has been shipping for some time now, and has found itself powering some Cisco network adapters and such... However it should be noted that there is a 'big' difference between embedded and desktop. I just couldn't rip one out of a Cisco network adapter and shove it into my powermac...

Whatever you do hold out for a while to get a powermac. If you can't wait untill the revision after this august one, you should settle for a nice dual processor one. It doesn't have to be the latest (hell you can still find dual 500's and dual 800's). At least that way it would take Apple some time until the 'low-end' single processor G4 [maybe G5 at that time] will catch up.
 
don't be to quick to doubt

You know, the fact that APPLEP58 didn't quote specific specs for the new gear only lends credibility to his info.

I'z gonna clue yous all inta sumptin':

The plastics for the enclosures are decided on long before the final release specs for a system.

Once the system architecure is approved, a form factor is designed (mainboard layout, type of memory, I/O ports, type and number of expansion slots, etc.). An enclosure/case is then designed to accomodate the system guts. Specifics, such as the actual processors employed and their clock speed, graphics cards, drives, etc., are decided on at a much later date, generally right before public announcements (based on availability and prices of the components).

It's not unreasonable to assume that someone might have accurate information concerning the external form factor of an enclosure and still not be sure of the final system specifications. In fact, unless the information was leaked immediately before a public announcement, it's exactly what you'd expect someone 'in the know' to be able to tell you.

Get with it, guys! :)



Oh, and I find this 'nubie' thing next to my name irksome. Sure, I'm new here, on THIS forum, ...but there should be some special MacRumors designation for guys like me. Something with a nice ring to it. Perhaps, VISITING DEITY.
 
Originally posted by dantec
What I would really like to see Apple is a buyout of nVidia & real (so we would force the gaming market into the Apple arena, and so we would really pose a threat against m$ with real).
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Apple already poses threat to MS with Quicktime 6. MS is trying to push it's own "standard," WM9 which does not support mpeg-4 and AAC.

Why buyout all those companies? Apple would be no better than MS. Instead of innovation, Apple would just be another buisness company.
 
Jeez!

You guys need to calm down.

History shows that no matter how fake the pictures are, they're usually pretty darn close, but their low quality makes them look like crap. I remember this from several past Apple releases. The fact that MacOSRumors has both posted these same images speaks loads to their credibility, though the fact that Think Secret has not makes me a little skeptical. TS is usually more reliable than MOSR.

Some comments/corrections/reassurances/etc I have:

Someone said IDE can't handle more than four drives. Not true. It actually can only handle two, and the vast majority of computers have two IDE buses. The Xserve has four. I've heard of as many as eight on one motherboard. That would be support for sixteen drives.

There isn't a single hard drive in existence that can saturate ATA/100, let alone 133. It's reasonable for Apple to include ATA/100. If you must have 133, buy the Sonnet Tempo upgrade card. It's not expensive, and would hardly leave a mark on top of the price tag of a new G4. ATA/100 can handle at least 120GB per drive, if not more -- I'm not certain of the actual limit.

DDR RAM is SDRAM. This has already been covered. Given that Xserve has both DDR SRAM L3 cache and DDR SDRAM memory, I think there's an excellent chance that the next PowerMac will have it as well -- the R&D is already done!

While Apple may call a future computer a G5, there will never be a PowerMac using a Motorola G5 processor. The Motorola G5 is a network router chip. Used in DSL modems, high-end Cisco routers, etc. It's already available. There's no AltiVec. No way will this chip make it into a PowerMac as the main processor. My bet is that Apple will call some *other* chip the G5, be it Motorola or IBM. As far as I know, Motorola has exclusive rights to develop AltiVec hardware (a patent or something), and I don't think Apple will move away from that any time soon, given the great effort they've expended in optimizing their apps for AltiVec. As evidence, see the ZDNet article about the Motorola G5 (link originally posted by kidinapple).

I think that's all, for now.

-Jake
 
zip drive?

if these pics are to be beleived, where doest the zip drive go?
Is Apple doing away with these as well?

I understand that alot of people are looking to have dual optical drives, but I think in the real/business/govt/edu worlds, the zip drive is more important than a second optical.

neilt
 
Re: zip drive?

Originally posted by neilt
if these pics are to be beleived, where doest the zip drive go?
Is Apple doing away with these as well?

I understand that alot of people are looking to have dual optical drives, but I think in the real/business/govt/edu worlds, the zip drive is more important than a second optical.

neilt
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My guess would be an external drive. Most people have some sort of external Zip drive now.
 
Re: Jeez!

Originally posted by Jake R

History shows that no matter how fake the pictures are, they're usually pretty darn close, but their low quality makes them look like crap. I remember this from several past Apple releases. The fact that MacOSRumors has both posted these same images speaks loads to their credibility, though the fact that Think Secret has not makes me a little skeptical. TS is usually more reliable than MOSR.
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Think Secret has been odd lately.They haven't had any update for a while and most of their recent articles seem to be rants on Rumor sites not getting press passes or about how dissapointed they were with Macworld.
 
A step back?

Hello all, been a regular viewer of MacRumors for some time, but decided to participate a little. I'll make it quick:

Quicksilver put a polish and finish on the design that was started with the B&W G3 Tower. The ellipsoid doors for the drive bays and the more monochromatic color scheme made for a very clean design that is currently seen in all of the modern Apple hardware. The photos of the new G4 Enclosure show a machine that seems to take some cues from the AGP and Gigabit G4 Towers, with the obvious large panel on the front of the case with large, clearly defined bay openings and a plethora of ports and buttons. Is Apple really moving back to a more compartmentalized aesthetic? IMHO, it would seem that, if anything, Apple would continue their trend towards remarkably simple lines with clear, flat space covering as much of the surface area as possible.

Any opinions?

RL
 
One other thing...

Does anyone know why there is a fan mounted on the swingout side of the case? The external picture doesn't show any ventilation porting on the upper front edge. Am I just not seeing something right?

Let me know.

RL
 
Re: Re: Just another business...

Originally posted by hitman


They innovate, which is more than Microsoft can say.
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Really?

I don't see Apple pumping out cross platform technologies like Microsoft's .NET Framework. Instead they sit around and use other's technologies like Apache, etc.

Apple still using PC-133 for the pro-sumer line. How innovative! Wait, no, that's years old technology.

Apple, as of to date, is lagging. Sure Microsoft isn't great most of the time, but Apple isn't great either.

Granted, Apple isn't really in the market Microsoft in.

:rolleyes: If only I could have the money, I'd get a damn Mac. I'd 100% use OS X over Windows. But really, IMHO, all corporations are evil, even Apple. They just don't seem to innovate anymore, just innovate more in OS X to improve speed, add a couple of technologies that's already used in the Windows world, but implemented much better. Although, I must 100% thank Apple for FireWire. Don't know how I could live without it.
 
Originally posted by hitman


Apple already poses threat to MS with Quicktime 6. MS is trying to push it's own "standard," WM9 which does not support mpeg-4 and AAC.

Why buyout all those companies? Apple would be no better than MS. Instead of innovation, Apple would just be another buisness company.
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I don't agree. M$ will include it in a future version of XP or whatever new bloatware which will increase it's popularity, awareness and have more consumers who 'don't know better' using it.
 
MOSR having these pics for weeks? PLEASE! MOSR is so out of the rumor loop it's not even funny anymore. That whole rant after MWNY was basically their frustration that they had no info whatsoever. Personally I think they burned too many bridges and pissed sources off.

Look back at MOSR's rumors before MWNY: They were a re-hash of ThinkSecret's rumors.
 
i totally forgot about crazyapplerumors.com - sort of like the mac version of the onion.

its nice to see someone taking a funny approach to all the things that have been causing so much agitation.

D
 
Geez...

These pictures look like some inventive person has taken a hacksaw to their Quicksilver, and replaced the holes with perspex - and then added some stick-on wafer-thin aluminium sheets!

I've got to say that I'm skeptical (as if you hadn't already guessed!). Apple field literally dozens of designs before they come to a final decision on the look of their flagship computer - and because it just looks too similar to the current design, I'd be very surprised if this is their ultimate choice.

:)
 
Re: Re: Re: Just another business...

Originally posted by MacCoaster


Really?

I don't see Apple pumping out cross platform technologies like Microsoft's .NET Framework. Instead they sit around and use other's technologies like Apache, etc.

Apple still using PC-133 for the pro-sumer line. How innovative! Wait, no, that's years old technology.

Apple, as of to date, is lagging. Sure Microsoft isn't great most of the time, but Apple isn't great either.

Granted, Apple isn't really in the market Microsoft in.

:rolleyes: If only I could have the money, I'd get a damn Mac. I'd 100% use OS X over Windows. But really, IMHO, all corporations are evil, even Apple. They just don't seem to innovate anymore, just innovate more in OS X to improve speed, add a couple of technologies that's already used in the Windows world, but implemented much better. Although, I must 100% thank Apple for FireWire. Don't know how I could live without it.
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With all do respect, you are right, Microsoft is the master of creating and being innovative in ways to invade your privacy and provide you with shoddy software that is hacker prone, and yet highly overpriced.
 
Well - it only took me 5 minutes to find out I might be mistaken...

I went back to the french site (www.macbidouille.com) that posted the new mac pictures, and what did I find?

An Apple "cease-and-desist" order preventing further publication or viewing of the new case pictures.

Hmmmm... The plot thickens...

:confused:
 
sorry for asking a dumb question, but all monitors work with power macs right? not just the apple lcds?

and when looking inside of the quicksilvers i noticed that there is only 1 cd drive bay in there...what the crap is with that?
 
Re: Geez...

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
These pictures look like some inventive person has taken a hacksaw to their Quicksilver, and replaced the holes with perspex - and then added some stick-on wafer-thin aluminium sheets!

I've got to say that I'm skeptical (as if you hadn't already guessed!). Apple field literally dozens of designs before they come to a final decision on the look of their flagship computer - and because it just looks too similar to the current design, I'd be very surprised if this is their ultimate choice.

:)
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You are right except that no hardware was damaged. The picture of the case is a hoax, a composite of at least three images, possibly more. I would guess that the hoaxer used Corel PHOTO-PAINT to piece the thing together. As we all know, the PDF file was "created" using Corel DRAW.

Just look at the image at 2x (200%). Does that look real to you?
 
Groove...

Take a break to see your doctor. I'm not sure you are making any points even on a "rumor" site. Ok, you're not here to make points but you're not here to harrass others, either. You can state your mine without being a bitch.

Wecome to the good ol' U.S. of A -- home of the Mac!

Take your pills and chill.
 
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