New PowerMac Photos?

[caveman_uk]

There certianly is a lot more room in hte front of the chassis now. Doesn't look like Dual Opticals are coming. I always felt like Dua Opticals were something that relatively few people were really looking for.

I've got dual opticals and my powermac G4 didn't come with 'em. It's cheaper to buy them yourself and put them in. For example I've got a Pioneer DVR-107D 8x DVD burner in my PM G4 and it cost me £61. The difference between a combo and a superdrive on the Apple store is £150. Similarly my second CDRW cost £25. Both drives are fully supported by Panther.

Just because Apple didn't SELL many G4s with two optical drives doesn't mean people didn't want them.

Apple isn't only expensive for RAM

 

[numediaman]

I'm a little hesitant to deduce too much from these photos, here's why. AppleInsider did not say they had the manual in their possession and that these were the most interesting photos. They implied that they published what was given them.

Because of this, one should be hesitant to claim too much. Afterall, in a service manual, one sometimes omits items in order to make it easier to visualize the repair. For instance, the four RAM slots does not mean there really will only be four in all the rev. b G5s. The graphics card is the same in both models -- so what, the photos don't illustrate replacing the card, etc.

I think these photos show some important changes, but certainly not all of them.

 

[StrangeQuark]

why should there be some harddisks and some others on the whole other side of the Power Mac.

They aren't on the other side of the Power Mac. Look at the photo in the upper left. The gap is clearly on the side with the other drives. The ports face you in that image, but the empty space is on the far side of the image.

 

[Sabbath]

I can't quite make out the outputs on the new graphics card. In the second row down of pictures the graphics cards look very similar just on different colour boards. Then the outputs on the top picture are black (on the old G5) and change to either white or not there on the new one. You often get different colour cards but in my experience manufactures seem to stick with the same colour (in the shorter term). Yet these cards look almost identical but are differently coloured. Just a little weird I guess?

 

[tliptak]

Hum this is weird. Rev A to Rev B redesign?


Also you can't open the images in photoshop or preview. Haven't tried anything else but its sorta odd.

 

[oliverlubin]

odd...

anyone else find it odd that the last picture in the Old manual (closeup of the cable connections) is upside down? why would it be presented like that?

edit: on a side note, the ram slots are destinct pairs of 2. so it looks like only 4 slots total. if you look close up, the spacing makes it more obvious.

 

[ChrisFromCanada]

Hum this is weird. Rev A to Rev B redesign?


Also you can't open the images in photoshop or preview. Haven't tried anything else but its sorta odd.

I tried that too and that the same problem this image wont open in preview, photoshop, or quicktime......only in a web browser.......wierd.

Can anyone explain this?

 

[Luc@]

anyone else find it odd that the last picture in the Old manual (closeup of the cable connections) is upside down? why would it be presented like that?

I don't know why, but the image is really upside down. I have controlled on the repair manual (the "old" one...).

 

[zer0army]

Also you can't open the images in photoshop or preview. Haven't tried anything else but its sorta odd.

Opened fine in both Photoshop CS and Preview for me. 🙂

 

[digiface]

Look carefully at the close-ups. . .

There is a metal slot underneath the ram slots. This looks like the place to slide in the fans. When you remove the fans in the current G5, you can see similar slots for the fans to connect to.

This is a service manual. They are trying to show a procedure, so parts may be removed. This is not an apple comparison photo. There could be all kinds of parts removed to illustrate whatever the manual is trying to show.

 

[SeaFox]

🙂

Okay, I STILL am getting a broken image link on that image.

Ironic: You're hosting the picture on your RCN webspace. And I'm at work right now (RCN technical support).

 

[SeaFox]

There is a metal slot underneath the ram slots. This looks like the place to slide in the fans. When you remove the fans in the current G5, you can see similar slots for the fans to connect to.

This is a service manual. They are trying to show a procedure, so parts may be removed. This is not an apple comparison photo. There could be all kinds of parts removed to illustrate whatever the manual is trying to show.

Wouldn't the external port's cord get kinked if you installed a fan in there?

I don't think I buy the 1TB of storage idea. If you installed the drives there the hot air from them would be blowing over the G5's.

 

[relimw]

There is no way tis will be quad 🙄

Well, what are the chances that this could be a dual core, dual processor system? Now that would be wicked!

 

[dwsolberg]

Reality

I wonder whether we can really expect much. The wait on a 2 Ghz XServe is still 4-6 weeks. It would be very surprising if Apple were able to sell machines faster than that for a long time. I mean if they can barely even produce 2 Ghz, what makes anyone think they can produce 2.2, 2.4, 2.6 or even the unholy grail of 3.0 Ghz?

 

[Aeolius]

I wonder if Apple is hiding liquid cooling under that larger shield?

 

[e-coli]

Liquid cooling, here we come! And more storage!

I didn't think it would be possible for them to clean up the case design, but they've managed to do it. It makes the current models look cluttered. That's amazing.

 

[Niknar]

There is a metal slot underneath the ram slots. This looks like the place to slide in the fans. When you remove the fans in the current G5, you can see similar slots for the fans to connect to.

This is a service manual. They are trying to show a procedure, so parts may be removed. This is not an apple comparison photo. There could be all kinds of parts removed to illustrate whatever the manual is trying to show.

I was going to ask that. If it is then you can justify why the ram is vertical, it would not interrupt the airflow. Also that cable looks flexible enough if fans were installed there.

I think this is a low end machine.

btw the image opens fine in preview and photoshop here.

 

[LoonyPandora]

Sorry to burst anyones bubble, but the service manuals have not been updated - I checked them about 20 minutes ago, and they are the same as always. Attached is a screenshot of the current service manuals page, and the current service manual I downloaded 20 mins ago.

I would be nice if this was the new G5, but it's not true 🙂

 

[klaus]

Sorry to burst anyones bubble, but the service manuals have not been updated - I checked them about 20 minutes ago, and they are the same as always. Attached is a screenshot of the current service manuals page, and the current service manual I downloaded 20 mins ago.

I would be nice if this was the new G5, but it's not true 🙂

I don't get it, why does AppleInsider claims the document has been updated on the 12th and on the 28th again, so you could easily verify the rumor if you check with another tech guy, if this is idd the fact, or is this also some sort of NDA?

Anyway, your pics say they were updated may 13th, so that makes this rumor total bogus...🙁

 

[isgoed]

Sorry to burst anyones bubble, but the service manuals have not been updated

No Drooly, AppleInsider has some "Insider" who got the manuals.

 

[applekid]

edit: on a side note, the ram slots are destinct pairs of 2. so it looks like only 4 slots total. if you look close up, the spacing makes it more obvious.

Dual Channel RAM? Just like on the PCs?

I think there's a few parts removed just to make the picture look clearer.

Who care's about what the inside looks like?! I'm really worried about if we can actually reach 3 GHz this summer! Please let either the 975 or 980 exist and be able to reach 3 GHz!... That and PCI-Express. We could use that 😀

 

[numediaman]

Sorry to burst anyones bubble, but the service manuals have not been updated - I checked them about 20 minutes ago, and they are the same as always. Attached is a screenshot of the current service manuals page, and the current service manual I downloaded 20 mins ago.

I would be nice if this was the new G5, but it's not true 🙂

You better check your post. The photo you linked shows the old model, which is in fact the old model here -- but not the new model. look at the huge heat sink differences.

In addition, the original post never claims this was a public document.

 

[klaus]

Dual Channel RAM? Just like on the PCs?

I think there's a few parts removed just to make the picture look clearer.

Who care's about what the inside looks like?! I'm really worried about if we can actually reach 3 GHz this summer! Please let either the 975 or 980 exist and be able to reach 3 GHz!... That and PCI-Express. We could use that 😀

I thought it was already dual channel ram in the g5's, I might be wrong though, but I don't think so. I'm sure that you need to install memory modules in pairs, so that makes a dual channel system..

Klaus

 

[Bonte]

Heat

That is one large heat sink, me thinks there is room for 4 more RAM slots in there. Left is room for the 2e proc or ... The 2e dual proc 🙂
here's hoping 🙂 🙂

 

[LoonyPandora]

No Drooly, AppleInsider has some "Insider" who got the manuals.

from the article:

In May, Apple distributed at least two revisions of the Power Mac service manuals. The first revision appeared on May 12 and featured only minor alterations, but a successive revision published on the 28th of the month reveals some interesting and previously unseen photos (below) of a dual Power Mac G5.

This is not true, as my screenshot shows, they were updated on the 13th only. Also, a service manual containing diagrams of an unreleased product is just utterly pointless. Even just a rev-a to a rev-b get's a whole new service manual.

They could be the new G5's, but they aren't in a service manual yet 😉 - and my vote goes to a good photoshop job 🙂

The photo you linked shows the old model, which is in fact the old model here -- but not the new model. look at the huge heat sink differences.
In addition, the original post never claims this was a public document.

That's my point, that screenshot was from the current service manual, to prove that they haven't been updated with a new model. Also, I'm not the general public, the service manuals are not available to the general public as you state.