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Curious as for how many genres deep they go into.

Hardcore. Post-hardcore. Emo-core. Crust punk. Deathcore. Grindcore. Mathcore etc.
(Yes, I know they're not related or deviate from each other, just examples ;) )

nah, they're gonna focus on "good music", which we all know is anything that will fit at Coachella. :rolleyes:
 
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Curious as for how many genres deep they go into.

Hardcore. Post-hardcore. Emo-core. Crust punk. Deathcore. Grindcore. Mathcore etc.
(Yes, I know they're not related or deviate from each other, just examples ;) )


Before you get too excited, here is Apple's idea of a comprehensive genre list:

Alternative
Classical
Country
Dance
Electronic
HipHop
Jazz
Kids & Family
Latin
Pop
R&B/Soul
Reggae
Rock

They could have hired any good DJ from any good club to curate some great playlists. Instead we have some 50-something white billionaire executives partnering with establishment music industry professionals to spoon feed us whatever "top-20" tracks they want to turn into hits.

Also, from what we've seen so far, the new Music app is divided between My Music, Playlists, and Radio. Where are you supposed to go to freely browse artists, albums, and genres for unlimited streaming?
 
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IF you are gonna be picky at least get your math right.

128 kbps = 128000 bps / 8 = 16000 B/s
16000 B/s / 1024^2 = 0.015... MiB/s
0.015... * 60s = .92 MiB/min

Touche, thats what I get for letting google do the math :/ you are correct that it's .92MiB/min which would be .96469MB/min so an hour would be closer to 57.88MB. Thanks for the correction as both of our errors stray off over the duration of a months worth of streaming data use. With the average 2.5hr per day it would workout to 4485.81MB per month.

p.s. wouldn't it be nice if the world all settled on the same thing and all used the binary values? :)

-PopinFRESH
 
Get users to pay for radio. Wow that takes some balls!!! or poor education from parents to children.

what next?

paying to browse a shop for clothes, electronics or food. I **** you not. Tokenisation of bluetooth and wifi to debit your apple account everytime you enter a shop.

In all fairness, the subscription fee gets you radio with unlimited skipping, and also unlimited streaming of their entire music catalog (whose depth and breadth remains to be seen.) So it's supposed to be a hybrid of Spotify and Pandora, combined with cloud storage of your personal music collection, wrapped in an Apple UI with a Beats flavor.
 
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Apologies if I'm asking unknown, easy, and/or repetitive questions. I've tried to keep up with this, but there are a few things I'm unclear about. If anyone cares to tackle any of these, thanks!

(1) I currently subscribe to Beats. Is Apple Radio replacing Beats? Will they co-exist?

(2) I know Apple Radio will be iOS accessible, but will it be browser accessible?

(3) On one end of the spectrum, I see Spotify/Pandora/Beats - all giving you access to music and making suggestions. On the other end I see terrestrial radio/satellite radio - with human, live DJs. Which side of the spectrum is Apple Radio? (I'm assuming it can't be "all", but maybe I'm wrong.)

(4) Will I be able to continue my iTunes Match subscription and upload obscure content? Do we know what the future holds for iTunes Match?

(5) Will Apple Music run through iTunes, alongside iTunes, completely foreign to iTunes? Do we think Apple is phasing out iTunes as we know it? (I hope not, because I live and die - figuratively, of course - by my smart playlists.

Thanks!
 
It uses data from your data plan because there is no announced deal with carriers and there is no such thing as magic.

Plus any deal with carriers that provides music streaming from one company without data charges would be a violation of net neutrality.
 
Also, from what we've seen so far, the new Music app is divided between My Music, Playlists, and Radio. Where are you supposed to go to freely browse artists, albums, and genres for unlimited streaming?

You just use the search magnifying glass top right within the Music App to search. Also there are tabs for My Music and All Music within a artist. It's fully integrated and gives you the ability to show and hide as you please. You should watch the last 30min or so of the WWDC Keynote demo.
 
Apologies if I'm asking unknown, easy, and/or repetitive questions. I've tried to keep up with this, but there are a few things I'm unclear about. If anyone cares to tackle any of these, thanks!

(1) I currently subscribe to Beats. Is Apple Radio replacing Beats? Will they co-exist?

(2) I know Apple Radio will be iOS accessible, but will it be browser accessible?

(3) On one end of the spectrum, I see Spotify/Pandora/Beats - all giving you access to music and making suggestions. On the other end I see terrestrial radio/satellite radio - with human, live DJs. Which side of the spectrum is Apple Radio? (I'm assuming it can't be "all", but maybe I'm wrong.)

(4) Will I be able to continue my iTunes Match subscription and upload obscure content? Do we know what the future holds for iTunes Match?

(5) Will Apple Music run through iTunes, alongside iTunes, completely foreign to iTunes? Do we think Apple is phasing out iTunes as we know it? (I hope not, because I live and die - figuratively, of course - by my smart playlists.

Thanks!

1) Beats will disappear, replaced by Apple Music. We are still awaiting the necessary details to determine which features will carry over and which will not.

2) There's been no mention of web access, so my guess is no - despite the fact that Beats Music did have a web interface.

3) They are presenting it as some sort of hybrid, but it remains to be seen if it's a weak tea version of both.

4) The Apple Music interface prominently features "My Music" so I would expect this to carry over.

5) On the desktop I'm certain it will be incorporated into the iTunes app. On iOS my guess is that there will be separate apps for Music and iTunes, but with deep linking between the two. All your existing playlists from iTunes will be carried over.
 
1) Beats will disappear, replaced by Apple Music. We are still awaiting the necessary details to determine which features will carry over and which will not.

2) There's been no mention of web access, so my guess is no - despite the fact that Beats Music did have a web interface.

3) They are presenting it as some sort of hybrid, but it remains to be seen if it's a weak tea version of both.

4) The Apple Music interface prominently features "My Music" so I would expect this to carry over.

5) On the desktop I'm certain it will be incorporated into the iTunes app. On iOS my guess is that there will be separate apps for Music and iTunes, but with deep linking between the two. All your existing playlists from iTunes will be carried over.

Excellent. Thanks for taking the time to answer! Sounds like a lot is left to be revealed.
 
Get users to pay for radio. Wow that takes some balls!!! or poor education from parents to children.

what next?

paying to browse a shop for clothes, electronics or food. I **** you not. Tokenisation of bluetooth and wifi to debit your apple account everytime you enter a shop.

Getting users to pay for content so they don't have to sit through ads?

It's madness! Other than its not. Ads are ****ing irritating. I'm thankful that neither Netflix nor the BBC has them.
 
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It's possible it might never overtake Spotify and may not be the success that Apple claims/hopes it will be, but it will absolutely NOT be the next Ping. Sorry, but that is just silly. This is a service that people are already using and a service that people understand, not to mention one that people are VERY aware of. Ping was none of those things.

Ping failed because users did not start using the social network's features.

Connect on Apple Music needs artists to produce content for it. Now Apple have the Beats team on board, they can ensure the industry (or at least key players) will get on board - the same way they convinced people to wear Beats headphones in their ads.
 
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Classical Chill LOL OL OL

Have been checking out their Beats Radio in IOS 9 this morning and
they pretty much killed radio for me.... might as well fire up the old FM radio.
 
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You can listen to broadcast radio if you prefer. Yes, it's free, but it's heavily populated with commercials, and you have limited choices with shallow playlists. The Apple Music service is more than "radio". It's meant to go head-to-head with Pandora and Spotify. I have not adopted the pay-for-streaming music yet, as I have an extensive music library (stared in ancient times) and prefer to own my music. Your analogies are misplaced, but I'm not sure you completely understand. If you prefer broadcast radio, download the app Tune-In Radio. It has all of your local stations, plus hundreds, if not thousands, of US and overseas stations. It's free (except for data charges if not using wifi). I only use it if I need to hear an AM station...much better sound quality that AM!

Not so.

BBC radio is free, has no ads, and has a huge library of music in all genres. It's what most people in the UK listen to.
 
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I'm from Mexico. I'm seeing the playlists but not the Beats 1 Station.

I have Spotify premium for free as part of my cellphone plan but I dn't use it. It's a hell to find something that I would like to listen to because I hate pop hits and the world top tens.

So far Apple Music seems very straight forward and a pleasure to browse but I'm concerned about the variety in the playlists. It doesn't seem to contain other lists than the ones featured in pics already posted.
 
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Before you get too excited, here is Apple's idea of a comprehensive genre list:

Alternative
Classical
Country
Dance
Electronic
HipHop
Jazz
Kids & Family
Latin
Pop
R&B/Soul
Reggae
Rock

They could have hired any good DJ from any good club to curate some great playlists. Instead we have some 50-something white billionaire executives partnering with establishment music industry professionals to spoon feed us whatever "top-20" tracks they want to turn into hits.

Also, from what we've seen so far, the new Music app is divided between My Music, Playlists, and Radio. Where are you supposed to go to freely browse artists, albums, and genres for unlimited streaming?

New tabs will probably be added to the Music app on the 30th. Look at the pictures of iOS 9's music app on the website.
 
I for one am anxious to see how this all plays out. Really curious to hear what Beats 1 has to offer. I got hooked on BBC Radio 1 back in the day when Sirius offered the station. I was gutted when they decided to not renew the deal and took it off the air. So, I'm hoping for a similar type of listening experience and looking forward to hearing Zane Lowe again.
And to the OP who questions or basically calls those who pay for music subscriptions financially uneducated....You shouldn't worry yourself as to how other people choose to spend their money. My parents did teach me the values of saving and being fiscally responsible and I still choose to pay for a music subscription. To not have to hear advertisement after advertisement is well worth it.
 
Get users to pay for radio. Wow that takes some balls!!! or poor education from parents to children.

what next?

paying to browse a shop for clothes, electronics or food. I **** you not. Tokenisation of bluetooth and wifi to debit your apple account everytime you enter a shop.

How are you wrong? Let me count the ways...

1) You pay for radio in the U.S. Period. You get to listen to ads. My time is worth $3 per minute. Many peoples time is worth more than that. It is cheaper for me to pay for ad free radio service than it is to have my time wasted listening to an ad. The more radio you listen to for a fixed price, the cheaper it becomes for you to enjoy it.

2) XM. People paid for ad free radio with XM. I know you THINK that because you didn't pay for radio that it was "free." That the equipment just magically grew somewhere. That it operates without support. That the DJ donates their time...

You pay for radio with time or money or both. You can not avoid this. I'd prefer to pay for it up front because it costs less at the end of the day. Otherwise the radio service sells airtime (at a profit) to a company that uses it to advertise. That advertisement cost comes out of the cost of product (which is marked up). I prefer an upfront cost instead of lots of little hidden costs. At least I know the value of the micro transaction. And if I don't think it's worth the value of the micro transaction, I don't pay it. Instead of paying for it as a hidden cost.

This is NOTHING like paying to browse in a shop. Terrible analogy.

However, imagine if you were browsing in a shop and you saw advertisements for products everywhere... oh wait, they DO that. So really, there is a hidden cost of browsing. You get to be advertised at...
 
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