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New Radio Tab With Beats 1 Demo Appears on iOS 8.4 and iOS 9 Betas

Lacasse said:
I'm referring to tax payers. I thought that BBC was subsidized like in Canada. But, based on what you're saying, BBC has monetized their operations through licensing. My apologies.

Therefore the BBC feed that we have playing on our Canadian cable is paid for by my monthly cable fee. Which offsets the cost of the BBC operations. That's great then...that's how it should be done. So essentially the BBC is paid for by the cable operators, or specialty channels that play Jamie Oliver reruns. Got it.


So is the BBC essentially a self-sustaining, profitable Crown Corp? If so, I hope the CBC moves into the same direction.
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Pretty much.

The funding is controlled via the BBC Trust who overlook and make sure everybody are hitting the margins on which they are set out.
A good example is Radio 1.. for a while (until late 2011) it was a great station, the formatting was perfect, the talent was unbelievable. But, they weren't hitting the plan that they set out to be, of which the trust is set to over watch. So after the trust 'removed' a few of the controllers at Radio 1 for not hitting the TSA and formatting the station sound to fit their brief, they finally got a journalist who's now the controller and has managed to bring the TSA age down, but to do that he's destroyed Radio 1. The shows are awful, full of 'Youtube famous' kids presenting programs, the playlist on a whole has turned ignorant and the celebrities that they include on programming are the likes of One Direction. People shifted to Radio 2 & 4.. and to show it the Radio 1 breakfast show (one of the most iconic features of Radio 1) has yet again lost just short of 1 million listeners. It's gone from 9million + to 3/4 million since the change. There's no surprise Zane moved, it was probably only time before Ben Cooper (controller) had him zapped from the lineup.. now he can carry on doing what he does best at a medium platform that isn't in self destruct mode, but also supports his theory.
 
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beany boy said:
I signed up for a 1 year Beats subscription on 10/6/2014 ending 10/6/2015. I am very interested to find out how all of this will affect me. Beats reps I have spoken to do not yet have any details.
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You were responded in the other thread and even quoted:

What happens to my Beats Music service?
Once Apple Music launches on June 30, you can easily move your current Beats Music subscription over to Apple Music. Just open Beats Music on your iOS device and you’ll be prompted to join Apple Music. Once you’ve signed up, the playlists you’ve created or subscribed to and the albums you’ve saved in your Beats Music library will all be available to you in Apple Music.
 
Personally I'd rather Apple sorted out the slow iTunes sharing to iPad and other device issues, rather than implement something else that will take an age to sync.
 
How good a signal will you need in the UK to stream music, will i need a 4G signal or will 3G be ok, or will even 2G be enough. I have never streamed music before, but i might give it a go if they are offering a 3 month free trial, but would like to know how reliable it is going to be first, if i am in a poor area will the music keep cutting out.
 
Z3man said:
How good a signal will you need in the UK to stream music, will i need a 4G signal or will 3G be ok, or will even 2G be enough. I have never streamed music before, but i might give it a go if they are offering a 3 month free trial, but would like to know how reliable it is going to be first, if i am in a poor area will the music keep cutting out.
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Definitely 3/4G. I currently get GPRS on Vodafone where I work in Derbyshire and streaming over Spotify is a PITA. Therefore I'd recommend trying a free trial of another established company first and seeing how you fare
 
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You think that icon will change in color automatically few days before they finally launch the service? :p
 
Z3man said:
How good a signal will you need in the UK to stream music, will i need a 4G signal or will 3G be ok, or will even 2G be enough. I have never streamed music before, but i might give it a go if they are offering a 3 month free trial, but would like to know how reliable it is going to be first, if i am in a poor area will the music keep cutting out.
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If they optimise an AAC+ encoder (didn't Apple try an revolutionise the use of AAC?) then you can listen on anything as low as 2G.. AAC+ gives you the opportunity to stream at low bitrates such as 24/32k with similar sounding results as 128k. For those wondering about the sound quality with AAC+ encoding then compare these:

http://media-ice.musicrad.io:3773/oxygen-med - this is 112k mp3
http://media-ice.musicrad.io:3773/oyxgen-low - this is 32k mp3
http://media-ice.musicrad.io:3773/oxygen-mobile - this is 32k AAC+
 
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PopinFRESH said:
not quite. 128 Kbps is 16 kB/s which is about 0.012Mb per second or 0.72Mb per minute. Yeah I get .72 could be said to be "about 1Mb" but that is a pretty big difference once you start to add up over a longer duration. For example over an hour that becomes 43.2Mb vs 60Mb. People average about 2.5hr per day of terrestrial radio (streaming radio is probably higher for this demographic but I didn't look up the data) so in a given months time that would equate to about 77.5 hours. This would be about 3348Mb vs 4650Mb.

Lastly, this also does not factor in the potential for other compression technologies that may be used to reduce the size of data in-transit, however, I wouldn't assume this when trying to plan how much streaming music you can listen to with your data plan.

-PopinFRESH
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Yo ar right and depending on how data is aconted it may be more remember tcp/ip or udp/ip headers come in adition to the actual music (I don't know where the carriers measure usage), remeber that is a lot of packets (usualy a packet is max 1500 bytes including all ip related headers)
 
Can anyone else explain how it's a 24/7 radio station? Someone said it's pre-recorded and it just plays when you want but I still don't get how it always running, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Ta.
 
producerlawson said:
If they optimise an AAC+ encoder (didn't Apple try an revolutionise the use of AAC?) then you can listen on anything as low as 2G.. AAC+ gives you the opportunity to stream at low bitrates such as 24/32k with similar sounding results as 128k. For those wondering about the sound quality with AAC+ encoding then compare these:

http://media-ice.musicrad.io:3773/oxygen-med - this is 112k mp3
http://media-ice.musicrad.io:3773/oyxgen-low - this is 32k mp3
http://media-ice.musicrad.io:3773/oxygen-mobile - this is 32k AAC+
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Thanks, thats really helpful, the AAC+ sounds really good, i can hardly tell any difference between that and the 112k mp3. I wonder what Apple plan to do.
 
Lacasse said:
Sorry bro, but the BBC is not free. It's paid for by tax dollars.

Just like in Canada, the CBC is ad free. We have CBC radio one, 2, 3 and French stations as well. But it's not free. It's subsidized by rate payers.

Canada has approximately 25M taxpayers out of a population of 36M.

The annual budget for the CBC radio operations is 1.1 Billion. Yes...a billion dollars.

That's $40 a year annually per rate payer. But obviously that fluctuates based on income. If you're middle - high income, you're paying the most of it.

According to the CBC, 20% of Canadians listen to CBC radio (uhem..BS..uhem). But even if that were the case, 7.2M Canadians listen to CBC radio...at a cost of $152 per listener.


The BBc as a whole (including TV ops) cost British citizens $91 per year. I suggest breaking out the BBC numbers....

Anyhow... I hate it when people assume things are free. I pay a lot in taxes. It's not free. Just like Canada's health care isn't free. On average, 30% of our tax dollars is spent on health. It's not free.
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For UK residents, there is no payment required to listen to BBC radio; it's free. It's funded by the BBC, which has income from various sources.
 
iGeek2014 said:
Definitely 3/4G. I currently get GPRS on Vodafone where I work in Derbyshire and streaming over Spotify is a PITA. Therefore I'd recommend trying a free trial of another established company first and seeing how you fare
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Indeed.

I would never rely on a streaming service for music or radio in the UK. Huge swathes of the Kingdom still top out at GPRS or worse. If you're stuck in one city, then it's probably okay, although even parts of central London don't have good 3G, let alone 4G.
 
SMIDG3T said:
Can anyone else explain how it's a 24/7 radio station? Someone said it's pre-recorded and it just plays when you want but I still don't get how it always running, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Ta.
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I was thinking the same then I realized there are 3 dj working in 3 different time zones so they should work 8 hours per day in their respective morning but still cover the entire 24 hours spectrum.
 
Benjamin Frost said:
For UK residents, there is no payment required to listen to BBC radio; it's free. It's funded by the BBC, which has income from various sources.
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Sure, although if you are paying for a TV license, that is the taxation which is a nontrivial source of funds for the BBC.
 
I hope there is enough candy (I mean music)... otherwise i'll stick with Spotify.

It's so unclear about worldwide delivery, even Apple doesn't know :D I asked specifically about Australian launch since site just states "coming soon" which could mean anything.

They re-iterated "Apple music will be available in 100 countries." ya i know that ....but.....

(it's like talking to a brick wall)
 
I've got it on 8.4 Beta 3

Canadian Radio??

On iPhone 6 Plus!
 

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