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The debates on here about whether Apple is holding back production to create artificial hype, or whether Apple is in fact contending with yield issues and capacity bottlenecks are pure lol.

Almost nobody on here (myself included), save for what seems like a handful of posters, has first hand knowledge of "the supply chain" and manufacturing generally; our understanding of Apple's production and distribution processes is extremely limited.

But that's no barrier to forum members sticking the words "supply chain genius" between that of "Tim" and "Cook" in a never-ending attempt to comment on his (strongly alleged, yet not bourne out whatsoever in Apple's stock price movements) incompetence.

Perhaps there should be an analogous phrase that can be inserted into a poster's name, along the lines of "not in a position to judge Tim cook's competence with regard to supply chain management". Pithier versions include: "haven't done my homework" and "chatting garbage".
Don't forget "this would never happen under Steve ".
Who am I kidding you just stated why I read the comments.
 
Well, looks like it's time to hype up the next iPhone. When do part leaks usually happen?
 
Lol. EVERY year we hear this same report and the iPhone is released at the normal schedule.

Agreed. Quantities might be limited but Apple will hit their launch target unless some unexpected last minute gremlins turn up in the design.
 
Childish to expect a company to provide something they released :rolleyes:
Many other manufacturers have figured out that if they build more product prior the release day then people don't have to wait two months for it

Apple does it, as an artificial means to show how much the iPhones are in demand.
No company sells more phones that Apple does in the 1st Qtr after release, if the demand is 100K yes they can plan it, it makes it more complicated to project the demand for iPhone now as there are 2 models now. making & shipping 70 million phones in one Qtr is insane task, you wouldn't understand unless you work in manufacturing.
It is possible to make 70 million phones, but they should start manufacturing 6 months before launch, by doing this new technologies can't be included in phone, and other phone manufacturers will copy new technology.
Other option will be to have larger manufacturing capacity, if Apple does this 50% of manufacturing capacity will be sitting idle after 1st Qtr.
Both options are bad.
 
Well, looks like it's time to hype up the next iPhone. When do part leaks usually happen?

I would imagine we would start seeing supplier leaks around May. But being OLED is rumored, it will be interesting to see what parts, if any, surface for leaked photo's.
 
It amazes me that a company of Apple's size and financial strength seems to always run into production delays when launching a newly designed iPhone. This same basic rumor gets floated out there almost every time, yet Apple always seems to come through. If rumors of this device's 2017 launch prove true, won't be shocked if the iP8 is ready for September.
 
Business clearly isn't your forte. Shareholders would have the heads of every Apple executive. You don't make money on hype. You make money on selling product. Since they start production in august, there's no way to make 50 million phones in two months. Literally impossible.
Well we can agree to disagree, my business skill are ok thank you for caring.

I am not suggesting to make 50 million in one go, but at the same time it is evident that supply is costrained the first few months, as we all hear around December....Apple raises demand to its supply chains (usually is written as "ramps up production"), meaning, they can produce more, they just don't want to.

Again if they can ramp up production, means they have the way of doing it at a profit, hence the supply is costrained because they want to create hype.

You can make money on hype, very much so, kickstarter is a GREAT example of that, you pay in advance on a hype even before having a real product done!!!

I am sure my business skill are not perfect, and that I have NOTHING to teach Apple, but I can very well learn from them, and so should you ;)
 
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What's odd is that we are now in April and we are yet to get news on any leaked schematics of the iPhone 8. I'm smelling an "S" variant year. As per usual. 7s 2017 and the 8 in 2018.
Entirely possible. It's at this time when we begin to see small internal components leak out. If we don't start seeing tell tale articles of part leaks by end of May then I'm thinking iPhone 8 in 2018. (Unless of course TC has finally "double downed" on security as promised.)
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It would be a delay if a release date was set, but since no release date has been set, how can something possibly be delayed??
Most likely based on the consistent September iPhone launch schedule that we've become accustom to? But agree that this could change any given year.
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After using an AMOLED screen, it's hard to go back even if LCD because it works better with energy efficiency and offers a a better AOD experience.
After having spent the past two years using a Nexus 6 with an amazing AMOLED display, I was concerned about moving back to iPhone with LCD this winter. For me personally, to best match the screen color and contrast of my former device, I increased contrast > darkened colors, and also activated display accommodations > color filters > blue/yellow filter. Though not perfect, this provides me with a satisfying color "pop" to feebly emulate a AMOLED experience on my iPhone 7 Plus.
 
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Entirely possible. It's at this time when we begin to see small internal components leak out. If we don't start seeing tell tale articles of part leaks by end of May then I'm thinking iPhone 8 in 2018. (Unless of course TC has finally "double downed" on security as promised.)
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Most likely based on the consistent September iPhone launch schedule that we've become accustom to? But agree that this could change any given year.
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After having spent the past two years using a Nexus 6 with an amazing AMOLED display, I was concerned about moving back to iPhone with LCD this winter. For me personally, to best match the screen color and contrast of my former device, I increased contrast > darkened colors, and also activated display accommodations > color filters > blue/yellow filter. Though not perfect, this provides me with a satisfying color "pop" to feebly emulate a AMOLED experience on my iPhone 7 Plus.
I thought precisely the same thing regarding doubling down on security. I'm amazed how little we still know about the iPhone 8 visually. Didn't they open a new factory that prohibits leaks from occurring?
 
I thought precisely the same thing regarding doubling down on security. I'm amazed how little we still know about the iPhone 8 visually. Didn't they open a new factory that prohibits leaks from occurring?
Not sure, but perhaps it's some combination of the following reported stories from the past two years. All seemingly involving iPhone 8:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...open-secret-lab-in-taiwan-to-develop-displays

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-developing-iphone-8-in-israel-2016-9
 
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If you ordered AirPods day 1 & still didn't get them you may want to call Apple. I ordered mine day 1 and got them in a week. They finished day 1 orders two months ago.

Not in Canada. I was tempted to cancel and go to retail but it's even worse in retail stores because they occasionally get 1 or 2.
 
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Not sure, but perhaps it's some combination of the following reported stories from the past two years. All seemingly involving iPhone 8:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...open-secret-lab-in-taiwan-to-develop-displays

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-developing-iphone-8-in-israel-2016-9
Thank you for those links. Personally I would rather know what the 8 will look like early in development rather than be blind about the design only to see myself disappointed in the design once it's officially unveiled only because I didn't have enough time to let the new design grow on me. Personally I believe that leaks in general help Apple more than to destroy it.
 
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Thank you for those links. Personally I would rather know what the 8 will look like early in development rather than be blind about the design only to see myself disappointed in the design once it's officially unveiled only because I didn't have enough time to let the new design grow on me. Personally I believe that leaks in general help Apple more than to destroy it.
If iPhone 8 is destined for release this Fall, leaks WILL begin to trickle in as Apple's supply chain and manufacturing process is too massive and operation to contain everything. I'd expect that we'd first start seeing MR articles featuring a circuit board, logic board, camera module, battery, front and back shells, etc. Sometimes the actual device schematic gets leaked as what happened last year with the iPhone 7 Plus--seemed bogus at first only to be mostly accurate (minus a Smart Connecter port of course). https://www.google.com/amp/www.cult...7-pro-schematic-reveals-dual-lens-camera/amp/

Just yesterday an iPhone 8 schematic was leaked online, but it doesn't look very official, seemingly based on spec rumors only. So take it with a grain of salt. Going to be an interesting next 2 months.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5mac.com/2017/04/07/iphone-8-schematic-sketch/amp/
 
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If iPhone 8 is destined for release this Fall, leaks WILL begin to trickle in as Apple's supply chain and manufacturing process is too massive and operation to contain everything. I'd expect that we'd first start seeing MR articles featuring a circuit board, logic board, camera module, battery, front and back shells, etc. Sometimes the actual device schematic gets leaked as what happened last year with the iPhone 7 Plus--seemed bogus at first only to be mostly accurate (minus a Smart Connecter port of course). https://www.google.com/amp/www.cult...7-pro-schematic-reveals-dual-lens-camera/amp/

Just yesterday an iPhone 8 schematic was leaked online, but it doesn't look very official, seemingly based on spec rumors only. So take it with a grain of salt. Going to be an interesting next 2 months.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5mac.com/2017/04/07/iphone-8-schematic-sketch/amp/
If that sketch is real which I have a feeling it is, I do not think we will see the number 8 rather we will see an iPhone edition or iPhone 7s edition with the smart connector included. I am excited either way. That vertical placement of the camera seems cool.
 
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Like I said in another message thread here, I personally think the 2017 model iPhones will roll out like this:

1. Apple will unveil the iPhone 7S, 7S Plus and 8 on September 5, 2017.
2. iOS 11.0 is released on September 19, 2017.
3. iPhone 7S and 7S Plus enters retail on September 22, 2017 with iOS 11.0 installed.
4. iOS 11.1 is released on October 31, 2017.
5. iPhone 8 enters retail on November 3, 2017 with iOS 11.1 installed.
 
Like I said in another message thread here, I personally think the 2017 model iPhones will roll out like this:

1. Apple will unveil the iPhone 7S, 7S Plus and 8 on September 5, 2017.
2. iOS 11.0 is released on September 19, 2017.
3. iPhone 7S and 7S Plus enters retail on September 22, 2017 with iOS 11.0 installed.
4. iOS 11.1 is released on October 31, 2017.
5. iPhone 8 enters retail on November 3, 2017 with iOS 11.1 installed.
Makes sense but Apple will not roll that way. (In my opinion of course lol) Apple will announce the 8 ( but it won't be called the 8) And it will be available for pre-order the same night at the 7s series but of course they will only make 3 of them so anyone who preorders them 3:12 or so EST or 12:something Pacific standard time will magically get a late October or November shipping date.
 
I guess you don't realize that you ramp up production once it gets to a certain yield of non-defective product. Again, they don't even start production until august. It loses them money by not having product I customers hands. It's business 101.

Well we can agree to disagree, my business skill are ok thank you for caring.

I am not suggesting to make 50 million in one go, but at the same time it is evident that supply is costrained the first few months, as we all hear around December....Apple raises demand to its supply chains (usually is written as "ramps up production"), meaning, they can produce more, they just don't want to.

Again if they can ramp up production, means they have the way of doing it at a profit, hence the supply is costrained because they want to create hype.

You can make money on hype, very much so, kickstarter is a GREAT example of that, you pay in advance on a hype even before having a real product done!!!

I am sure my business skill are not perfect, and that I have NOTHING to teach Apple, but I can very well learn from them, and so should you ;)
 
I guess you don't realize that you ramp up production once it gets to a certain yield of non-defective product. Again, they don't even start production until august. It loses them money by not having product I customers hands. It's business 101.
They've been doing this way for years and unlikely to change. Fast forward to September I'm interested to see if scalpers are lining up at the stores.
 
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They've been doing this way for years and unlikely to change. Fast forward to September I'm interested to see if scalpers are lining up at the stores.
I fully agree with you, and I might add:
"There is no worse blind man than the one who doesn’t want to see. There is no worse deaf man than the one who doesn’t want to hear. And there is no worse madman than the one who doesn’t want to understand."

Apple has been doing it (as you suggest) on purpose and it lost them if any very little, or they would be changing their approach!

It works, and very well too, and as a shareholder I am happy they sell on hype, it makes them profits, and it makes me profit (well like a really tiny minuscule percentage of what they do but still :p).

 
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