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New Snow Leopard 10A380 Screenshots Emerge

elppa said:
Leopard was ment made things more uniform (expect it didn't), SL leaves it mostly untouched.

I completely agree Apple needs to sort out whether they want bubbly aqua and blues (probably not), greys, blacks etc.

That said with the “eyes hurt” comment I think you are being a bit too critical…

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EDIT: Just to be clear, this isn't a random wallpaper, this is an official Microsoft Windows 7 wallpaper.
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Damn that looks awful.
 
BongoBanger said:
You are kidding, aren't you?
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Absolutely not. Not by a mile.

When it comes to consumer operating systems (especially for use), OS X sets the example for others to follow (or try.)

All the also-rans are trying to be more "Apple-like" or "OS X-like." Everything is compared to OS X and Apple products. Pretty simple to see where all the envy is directed.

Apple's success, "hype", and market desirability is user-driven. When Bertrand Serlet commented that Apple designers and engineers come at the game from "a completely different place", he wasn't kidding. It's self-evident. And when Serlet speaks, chances are the industry listens intently. This is the man primarily responsible for the release of Mac OS X Tiger, Leopard and now Snow Leopard. He led development of the Workplace manager in NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP. This man is the absolute cream of the industry and Apple has him.
 
These are all great, but they keep talking about adding new features to Finder, but I can't find a comprehensive list of what this means. Anyone got any idea? I think the keynote mentioned being able to watch movies within the Finder window, but more Pathfinder-like features would be amazing.
 
Goona said:
Damn that looks awful.
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Never mind the lousy wallpaper . . . that taskbar and those buttons look like part of a Windwblinds theme from 2003. And all that transparency or "frosted glass" on those windows are absolutely horrible in terms of usability.

MS clearly attempted to ape OS X in terms of eyecandy, but ended up implementing it for its own sake in a vain "me too!" attempt. So you end up with a cross between a rocket popsicle and a mishmash of glass and transparency.
 
*LTD* said:
MS clearly attempted to ape OS X in terms of eyecandy, but ended up implementing it for its own sake in a vain "me too!" attempt. So you end up with a cross between a rocket popsicle and a mishmash of glass and transparency.
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It's a tradition now. They're the best at doing bad copies.
 
*LTD* said:
Absolutely not. Not by a mile.

When it comes to consumer operating systems (especially for use), OS X sets the example for others to follow (or try.)
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Ah. Now had you said 'UI' I would have agreed.

However I think we should bear in mind which OS is finally getting round to a true 64 bit version and fixing it's dodgy threading model.
 
So how many people here have used Windows 7 to comment on the UI beyond taking pop shots at a static image?

I have plenty of suggestions for Microsoft given my actual usage of it...
 
There are plenty of things Win7 does well. I found some nifty desktop management commands that was quite handy. As for the desktop it is only as clean as the person using it.
 
Supernicklas said:
To burn this build to a dual-layer dvd in Leopard, do I just drag-and-drop the dmg onto the empty dvd and pop it in the drive and boot it when it's done or what?
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To burn a backup copy of a dmg file made from the DVD you received at WWDC, first drag the DMG into the disk utility sidebar, then click on the burn menu bar item.
 
Eidorian said:
So how many people here have used Windows 7 to comment on the UI beyond taking pop shots at a static image?

I have plenty of suggestions for Microsoft given my actual usage of it...
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Since the comments on the static image only revolve around variations of the theme "fugly" - actual experience with Win7 is unnecessary. ;)

I really do like the new task bar (how it combines quick launch, the task bar, and "expose"). I think that jump lists are brilliant - a huge time saver.

The "process per tab" (more-or-less) of IE8 and the window logging (restore all tabs - even cookies - after a tab crash) is nice.

Also, the ability to boot from a disk file ("VHD" - the format used by Virtual PC and Microsoft's server virtualization tools) is superb for testing and other uses - you can keep extra test environments around (or multiple versions of the OS) and hack away without risk to the main OS image and without worrying about making partitions for each. You can also copy the VHDs around, and clone and boot anywhere.
 
AidenShaw said:
I really do like the new task bar (how it combines quick launch, the task bar, and "expose"). I think that jump lists are brilliant - a huge time saver.

The "process per tab" (more-or-less) of IE8 and the window logging (restore all tabs - even cookies - after a tab crash) is nice.
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I'm still wondering why some users would want the old Quick Launch and Taskbar back over what they've done in Windows 7. Not to mention you can launch pinned applications now using the Windows Key + #.

Aero 3D Flip is still too linear for me but it's much more usable now. Drag and drop has gotten better but it's still not OS X's spring loaded folders.

AidenShaw said:
Also, the ability to boot from a disk file ("VHD" - the format used by Virtual PC and Microsoft's server virtualization tools) is superb for testing and other uses - you can keep extra test environments around (or multiple versions of the OS) and hack away without risk to the main OS image and without worrying about making partitions for each. You can also copy the VHDs around, and clone and boot anywhere.
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If you pay for it of course. :p
 
AidenShaw said:
Also, the ability to boot from a disk file ("VHD" - the format used by Virtual PC and Microsoft's server virtualization tools) is superb for testing and other uses - you can keep extra test environments around (or multiple versions of the OS) and hack away without risk to the main OS image and without worrying about making partitions for each. You can also copy the VHDs around, and clone and boot anywhere.
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I asked about this earlier in the thread but I don't think anyone replied. Doesn't Snow Leopard allow you to boot from a disk image dmg file? I thought that was one of the new features announced last year but I haven't heard much about it since.
 
rockstarjoe said:
I asked about this earlier in the thread but I don't think anyone replied. Doesn't Snow Leopard allow you to boot from a disk image dmg file? I thought that was one of the new features announced last year but I haven't heard much about it since.
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The feature was mentioned ages ago. Hopefully it doesn't end up as a dropped feature.

I don't know if anyone has poked around in NetBoot/ImageBoot or Startup Disk much though. Average Joe's head would explode seeing those.
 
Does anyone use Vuze? It doesn't seem to want to download or open torrent files since upgrading to SL.

Edit: Vuze doesn't work with SL.
 
Quillz said:
For everyone who complained endlessly about Apple not fixing the infamous "open folder" bug in Leopard, I have some good news:
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Ok. I tried searching around in Google for this, but I got too many returns on other bugs. In short, what bug are you talking about? I assume it has to do with that type of file listing you show.
 
Billy Boo Bob said:
Ok. I tried searching around in Google for this, but I got too many returns on other bugs. In short, what bug are you talking about? I assume it has to do with that type of file listing you show.
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The bug was that any folder set that could be scaled up to 512×512 pixels (such as the default Leopard set) would never display the "open" folder icon. Ever. And Apple refused to fix it.

And, no, it applied to all Finder views. Any time you moved files into another folder, the "open" animation would never display. Never worked in column view, icon view, etc. People who made icon sets for Leopard usually just skipped the "open" view, because it was useless.
 
Quillz said:
The bug was that any folder set that could be scaled up to 512×512 pixels (such as the default Leopard set) would never display the "open" folder icon. Ever. And Apple refused to fix it.

And, no, it applied to all Finder views. Any time you moved files into another folder, the "open" animation would never display. Never worked in column view, icon view, etc. People who made icon sets for Leopard usually just skipped the "open" view, because it was useless.
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Could you maybe check if another bug has been fixed? I'd really appreciate it. I assume it's a general Leopard-bug.

With icon previews activated, when I open a folder in list view with lots of e.g. PDF files in it, and try to rename one while the Finder is still generating new previews of the files in the current view, I'm thrown out of the editing mode each time a new preview appears.

It's kind of an edge case since usually Finder is quick in creating these previews and you will only try to rename files afterwards, but I still run into this problem more often than I'd like...

I hope you can see what I mean ?
 
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