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And as for disk compression, I would never use it--anything less than pure flat-binary disk format will be far slower in use.

It can be useful for archiving text and other compressible files (like those old HTML files and logs). Since they're not really "in use", performance is not an issue.

Already compressed files (software kits, music, images, videos) won't compress much, so don't bother.

Also, you might find that performance is better than you think.
  • A slow disk (aren't they all) and a fast CPU may read compressed files faster than noncompressed. Since less has to be read from the disk, sometime it can be uncompressed faster than the uncompressed could be read.
  • An implementation of ZFS could do lazy compression - a file is initially written uncompressed, and then in the background is compressed. That would give good performance for writing a file, but would be trickier to handle updating a file.

There are uses for compressed files.
 
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Actually, versioning it as 6.1 is only for the Beta. It's because many apps adapt to Vista's security changes by checking if the major version (the first number) is 6. Changing it to 7 may cause applications to not enable things like UAC. They're going to wait until developers have had enough time to update their code. Also, during the Vista beta as I remember it, it was versioned as 5.x. They haven't hit the 7.X version yet, so it's between 6 and 7.

I know Microsoft is prone to stupidity (just like Apple), but I have to doubt that they would do something so stupid as produce a beta with one version, knowing the plan to change that version for release.
 
Hey I've had Leopard from the start and haven't experienced anything at all.. Look forward to trying the beta of Snow Leopard so we'll see how it turns out.
 
Actually, versioning it as 6.1 is only for the Beta.

I know Microsoft is prone to stupidity (just like Apple), but I have to doubt that they would do something so stupid as produce a beta with one version, knowing the plan to change that version for release.


You are correct, Amdahl. The "6.1" is the final version number. It has nothing to do with the product name (how does "Vista" relate to "6.0" - it doesn't).

See the official story from Microsoft: http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/10/14/why-7.aspx

Developers (the only ones who will ever care about "6.1") know this. The first release of NT was called by marketing by the version "3.1", the second release "3.5". the second.point.five release was "3.51". The major/minor version number returned by the OS APIs help an application determine if it is compatible with the APIs on the current system. They are unrelated to the marketing name for the product.

Windows 7 is major/minor "6.1" because in spite of the improvements in the UX, the bundled applications and features - the underlying API set is still almost identical to Windows "6.0".


Hey I've had Leopard from the start and haven't experienced anything at all...

You still haven't been able to get it booted? Take your system to the Genius Bar, maybe they'll be able to help.


They replaced all the words with the internet slang equivalents.

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I'd love to get Tiger's spotlight functionality back.
Like the categories and some more view options in the results so I can sort by file size and whatnot.

Right now, spotlight is rather clumsy and there's no way to do detailed searches.
There are third party interfaces to spotlight. After all, it's just displaying a query to database of files. I never used them, but you might find them interesting.

http://osx.iusethis.com/app/spotlaser
http://osx.iusethis.com/app/notlight
http://osx.iusethis.com/app/filespot
http://osx.iusethis.com/app/bsp (not a search frontend, but Spotlight config tool)
http://osx.iusethis.com/app/spotlook
http://osx.iusethis.com/app/meta
http://osx.iusethis.com/app/spotquery

(The neat thing about search apps, there are so many to find..)
 
The consumer is who will benefit the most from ZFS.

Really? From what I've read on Sun's info about it, it'll be server sides that'll benefit hugely, particularly system administrators etc.

Unless I missed something, explain to me how the consumer will benefit in any way from going to ZFS from HFS+.
 
^^ Why, how? Are your kidding? Do you know what you're talking about? ZFS is an exponentially better filesystem than anything else available. You're also using HFS+, right? Not HFS anymore. Why? Because it's the best choice right now. Windows users are using NTFS now and not FAT16 or FAT32 anymore. Why? Because it's the best choice right now. ZFS will be a better choice in the future. Geez, kids. Open your freakin' minds. Technology doesn't stay stagnant..

Because it's the "best choice". That's your reason for consumers benefiting from ZFS?

I'll ask you again: why is the consumer going to benefit from ZFS than just using HFS+?
 
Thats not true, have you actually tried using the developer version? all the languages are there, you get a choice to have them removed though if you like, and its going to be the same for all native apps, you'll also get an option to have power pc or intel only installs to remove excess code which is currently an issue.

It has been confirmed that the screenshots with the tiny file sizes are the versions with only english installed. You can get similar sizes on 10.5 without the other languages.

That apps are smaller because they've been re-written to only use Cocoa instead of Carbon. ;)

Sorry, but that's wrong, it's the foreign localizations. Just open up the app itself and look at what is inside, the vast majority of the space is taken up by localizations, not code. And you can use apps to strip down 10.5 versions to those same small sizes.

For example, Mail in 10.5.

The full app is 289M on my system. Doing a "show contents" reveals that 276M of that is the foreign languages. Looks like the code is about 5.7 meg.
 
Hey, genius, it's not my job to educate you when you can click a few links and do it yourself.

I don't have to prove to you that broadband is faster than dialup either.

The top 10 reasons - nothing that really affects the consumer. I'm not denying that ZFS is going to be a big boost for professionals and system admins, but you're argument is the consumer will get a big boost from ZFS.

That, you still haven't proved.
 
Keywords are better.

http://www.macworld.com/article/132788/2008/04/spotlight2.html

Just type in 'name:[some part of a file name]'

How is having to type extra stuff EVERY time I want to search "better"?

It's not.

And just this morning I had a new Spotlight glitch - looking for a file on an indexed drive, and spotlight simply didn't find it. I look for it manually, and there it is. Double checked to make sure it wasn't in one of the "privacy" folders, and nope, spotlight just didn't know it was there.
 
I don't have to argue the consumer will get a big boost from ZFS. The consumer gets a big boost from all technological advancement.

It's up to you to prove that ZFS, like any other advancement, won't be a big boost to the consumer.

Okay, you're argument is running dry. You said originally, "it is the consumer who will benefit most from ZFS". You still haven't proved or backed that up with any evidence.

Consumers just need a file system that works. They don't care about all the fancy details. Something that stores their music, videos etc is fine.

Things like RAID enhancements, defragging etc etc. These are meaningless to the consumer.

Sure you aren't getting yourself muddled up with the prosumer?
 
Okay, you're argument is running dry. You said originally, "it is the consumer who will benefit most from ZFS". You still haven't proved or backed that up with any evidence.

Consumers just need a file system that works. They don't care about all the fancy details. Something that stores their music, videos etc is fine.

Things like RAID enhancements, defragging etc etc. These are meaningless to the consumer.

Sure you aren't getting yourself muddled up with the prosumer?

I agree with you. ZFS will be the standard in years to come, but the everyday consumer will not benefit from the special features like pro users will.
 
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