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i'm actually more excited about snow leopard than i was about leopard...the refinements in SL look very good - no minor stuff, but stuff that we all use on a day to day basis and would really make a difference. $29 is a steal, IMO.

I'd very much agree, having exposé windows line up correctly (and not randomly), having titles displayed by default, having minimised windows displayed in exposé and the integration of exposé into the Dock means far more to me and will make a far greater day to day difference than a 3D Dock and Transparent menu bar.
 
Upgrade XP -> Vista -> Win7

I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I know I was. BTW, there is no upgrade path for XP, in case anyone was wondering.

Just upgrade to Vista, then immediately upgrade to Win7. It takes more time, but not more money.

I just wish that they'd allow upgrading 32-bit systems to 64-bit systems. As it is, you can't upgrade, you need to do a clean 64-bit install.
 
Apple follows accounting rules that says new features can't be added to old products without charging for them (with the exception of the iPhone and AppleTV, which Apple decided to account for differently than their other products).

This is pretty much an urban legend. The rules don't say anything about old products, charging for them, etc.

What it changes is how the company can account for the development charges (expense vs. capitalize).

Always happy to be wrong if someone can point out the accounting pronouncement - but I've never seen it.
 
Recurring Tasks in iCal

The only feature I want is the ability to do recurring tasks (not events) in iCal based on the completion date. I've scoured apple's site, but it doesn't look like it made it into Snow Leopard. Can anybody with the developer release tell me if that feature is there?
 
The only feature I want is the ability to do recurring tasks (not events) in iCal based on the completion date. I've scoured apple's site, but it doesn't look like it made it into Snow Leopard. Can anybody with the developer release tell me if that feature is there?

Not there
 
300 kbps means that you can actually use 3G to use iChat Video? 384 kbps is the 3G upload limit...
 
Do Quicktime Movies playback in the Dock like they used to in Mac OS X 10.0 - 10.4.11?
 
Do Quicktime Movies playback in the Dock like they used to in Mac OS X 10.0 - 10.4.11?

Nope. I don't understand why this was removed in both Leopard and Snow Leopard. Seems like a regression to me, especially since Steve made such a big deal about it in the original Mac OS X demo from 2000.
 
That's because books are like Kryptonite to many. Anything longer than a handful of paragraphs and they break out in a cold sweat.

It's called the "MTV attention span" that most people have. If given more than three paragraphs to read, they forget what the first part said by the time they get to the middle.

You see it a lot on this site. You can count on someone within the first 10 posts to ask a question that was clearly answered in the text at the top of the page.
 
DANG IT!!! Son of a motherless hamster! Flying monkeys!!!

Alright, I'm feeling better now. I just really wish Apple would bring their calendar app into this decade before it's over.

To be fair, I believe iCal is the one application Apple doesn't develop in-house. It's done by some company based in France, IIRC.
 
This is pretty much an urban legend. The rules don't say anything about old products, charging for them, etc.

The only word on this that I have ever seen has to do with how the iTouch is not classified within Apple the same way the iPhone is. So upgrades on the iTouch have a user cost, while no such charge applies to the same upgrade on an iPhone.

Apple used to provide OS upgrades at no charge but began to use them as a revenue stream sometime around system 7. The $29 SL upgrade is pretty close to a wash for the cost of putting the OS on the media and whatever other stuff they shove inb the box.

Apple seems to have a lot less maintenance costs on OSX than MicroSoft has. I base that on the amount of patches MicroSoft puts out in an year compared to Apple. It would seem that maintenance has got to cost a fair amount and the only way to cover it would be to capture it with the cost of the OS, or require a subscription charge once a customer has the OS.

I wasn't able to tell if QuickTime got upgraded to the place QuickTime Pro is/was, or whether there will also be a QuickTime Pro having some additional features going forward into SL.
 
I know people will defend apple to death specially with the low price of 29 dollars. But overall snow leopard is a software update that is usally pushed for free.

What? This is the company that wants $29 for the Pro version of QuickTime.

I don't know of a case where a program has been rewritten with 64-bit support and released as a free update. Outlook 2007 did get noticeably faster with the latest office service pack, but it certainly didn't shrink in size nor is it now 64-bit. Snow Leopard had several pieces rewritten -- when is that usually "pushed for free?"

The view of Snow Leopard "overall" depends on the intent of the user. If the only thing you're going to notice is new multitouch support for older laptops and a trash can that empties faster, I could see how a user would want that for free. If you're going to connect to an Exchange 2007 Server and program with Grand Central Dispatch all day, it's probably worth way more than QuickTime Pro to you.

Definitely isn't the greatest news for people who have had the hardware for multitouch all along, but that's how marketing goes.
 
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Originally Posted by flopticalcube
I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I know I was. BTW, there is no upgrade path for XP, in case anyone was wondering.

Just upgrade to Vista, then immediately upgrade to Win7. It takes more time, but not more money.

I just wish that they'd allow upgrading 32-bit systems to 64-bit systems. As it is, you can't upgrade, you need to do a clean 64-bit install.

I think he/she meant that "Vista" isn't an "upgrade" while "System 7" is a sidegrade. :D
 
Everyone asking about multitouch:

I am willing to bet it simply brings 3 and 4 finger gestures to Rev E (Feb 2008) MacBook Pros. These are the ones that were introduced having the two-finger rotate and pinch gestures. This indicates the hardware is capable of tracking multiple fingers rather than just detecting there are "one" or "more than one" locations activated.

I hope I am wrong and I get 3 and 4 finger gestures on my Rev D MBP (the best I have now is two-finger scrolling and right-click) but I don't believe the touchpad is physically capable of obtaining the required information.
 
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