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Everyone asking about multitouch:

I am willing to bet it simply brings 3 and 4 finger gestures to Rev E (Feb 2008) MacBook Pros.

This is exactly what it does, as Apple have stated. Those that think software will give them new hardware are in for a disappointment.
 
Hum early 2008 MBPs already had 3 finger gestures. 10.6 brings 4 finger gestures to them. On thing that was no mentioned anywhere is that proxy settings have been greatly improved and work a lot better than before. There are still some weird things like the hosts file is not being read while using a proxy but that is kinda expected.

Oh yeah Java is updated to the latest release ( revision 13 ) so no more exploits.
 
Question

I have a 17" Macbook Pro that I got in the summer of 2007. I know it recognizes two finger gestures. Will it recognize three and four-finger gestures with Snow Leopard?
 
I have a 17" Macbook Pro that I got in the summer of 2007. I know it recognizes two finger gestures. Will it recognize three and four-finger gestures with Snow Leopard?

No. MBPs didn't have Multi-Touch until Early 2008.
 
My Early 2008 MacBook can recognize more than two fingers under Linux. So, the hardware is definitely capable of at least some “multi-touch” gestures (that don’t need to know where the fingers are in relation to each other). I would be happy to just get three finger gestures for Exposé and the app switcher.
 
My Early 2008 MacBook can recognize more than two fingers under Linux. So, the hardware is definitely capable of at least some “multi-touch” gestures (that don’t need to know where the fingers are in relation to each other). I would be happy to just get three finger gestures for Exposé and the app switcher.

Are you talking about MacBook or MacBook Pro? The reason is that last time I checked MacBooks (pre-late 2008) couldn't recognize more than 2 fingers.

And if you're talking about a regular MacBook is there any proof about Linux being able to recognize more than 2 fingers (just wondering).

EDIT: Nevermind, I find a couple articles and this webpage http://www.randomtruth.110mb.com/blog/index.php
 
I agree on the fact that it will be implemented.

But obviously something thats been there since the beginning to now be implmented is just wrong. The main selling point for models after the old macbooks was the ability for multi touch. This coming out now seems more like a lie and deciet.

Now we have to pay extra for something thats been there since the begining type of thing.

I know people will defend apple to death specially with the low price of 29 dollars. But overall snow leopard is a software update that is usally pushed for free.

But whatever people will defend it to death even if its wrong.

Your right! But, I waste $29 all the time on bogus software or something that I'll use a handful of times and either get frustrated or board with... and when I used a PC that was a lot of time rebooting.

So yes I'll pay the $50 for Family Pack. I'm very impressed with all the little features that they have been working on.
 
I'd really love to use Multi-Touch features in SL on my Mac Pro. I hope Apple/someone comes up with a multi-touch peripheral for us desktop (MP/iMac) mac users.
 
Can they add at least three finger swipe?

It seems like pre-multitouch era Macbook Pro can still recognise three fingers at least(although I am not sure how reliable it its...)

I figured this out by trying two fingers than three fingers on my non-multi touch macbook pro. When you swipe with three fingers, cursor does not move(i.e. it does not recognise as one finger or two fingers).

So it seems like Apple can try for three fingers on older ones if they are willing...
 
Even though I'll hold off on snow leopard for a while, I'm really excited about getting three and four finger gestures on my multitouch MBP. :)
 
It seems like pre-multitouch era Macbook Pro can still recognise three fingers at least(although I am not sure how reliable it its...)

I figured this out by trying two fingers than three fingers on my non-multi touch macbook pro. When you swipe with three fingers, cursor does not move(i.e. it does not recognise as one finger or two fingers).

So it seems like Apple can try for three fingers on older ones if they are willing...

I think the trackpad can recognize one or two fingers. If it isn't one or two, the trackpad assumes nothing is on it (i.e. no accidentally moving the mouse while typing if your palm hits the trackpad).

But I hope I'm wrong seeing as how Random Through's blog is using software to enable multi-touch on older MacBooks.
 
Oh, I see. I was confused because it DOES continue to play, but the video doesn't update. Got it now.

to clarify this further... when you minimized a Quicktime movie the thumbnail icon in the dock would be the movie in tiny form, still playing, meaning you could physically still watch the little tiny version
 
Apple follows accounting rules that says new features can't be added to old products without charging for them (with the exception of the iPhone and AppleTV, which Apple decided to account for differently than their other products).

They sold some Macs a few years ago with 802.11n not enabled. A few months later, Apple enabled it, but you had to buy the update for like $3 (because adding 802.11n counted as adding a new feature). People went nuts.

So now they just wait until the next paid software update comes out to do stuff like this.

Fun, huh? :eek:

Where are these 'suck every penny out of our customers' -rules coming from? Apple specific only? Enlighten me, someone.
 
- iChat Video Chat Improvements: iChat Theater content can be displayed at up to a resolution of 640 x 480 pixels in Snow Leopard, four times that of OS X Leopard. iChat in Snow Leopard also requires only 300 Kbps upstream bandwidth for video chats, one-third that of the bandwidth required in Leopard.

that just can't be true!!! I've been using videochat since it was available.... and I only have 160kbit up!!!


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edit, just checked, as you can see I got even less, yet videochat works! Please correct this bunch of misinformation!
 
So the maximum resolution in iChat in Leopard is 320x240? It looks much better though if that's the case.

Why not 720p video? iSight should be able to capture it, shouldn't it? :)
 
To be fair, I believe iCal is the one application Apple doesn't develop in-house. It's done by some company based in France, IIRC.

Initially is was, the company was an small American computer company based in California, Apple I think they were called.

Now development is back in Cupertino.

One of the engineers who built iCal was an ex NeXT engineer: Hullot I think his name was. I believe he also worked on the very first Interface Builder.

Actually Mac OS X owes a lot to the French, with Bertrand Serlet of course being French as well.

Will Apple Mail still suck?

It has a few bugs, but so does every other app in it's class.

The UI is very simple and clear and it integrates some nice features without complication or clutter (data detectors, the stationery).

For me Mail is a poster-child for what being a good OS X application is about.

EDIT: Checked those facts on wikipedia: iCal and Jean-Marie Hullot
 
This is exactly what it does, as Apple have stated. Those that think software will give them new hardware are in for a disappointment.

No need for new hardware, multitouch works on my macbook under linux. No reason apple can't do it.
 
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