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Re: Re: I think they are great...

Originally posted by Nipsy

..I have Java which is alot smoother than on Wintel...
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Off topic, I know, but I keep hearing this, and yet LimeWire runs so much smoother on my K6-2 350 w/ Win98SE (homemade) than on my iMac DV 400 with 10.1.5. Scrolling is painfully slow, and there is a definate lag when switching between tabs. Get the spinning cursor too often. And it crashes at least half the time I run it, often during launch, since the 2.4.4 update.

Wonder whats goin' on...

(tig)
 
I've heard several stories from someone working at Frys about people coming in because of these Ads and buying Macs. I'd say they are definetly working.
 
Why not OSX?

Originally posted by DavPeanut
I have a iMac 400 DV, so should I install OS X on it?
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Sure! The worst that can happen is it's too slow and you go back to OS9.2

But remember: OSX will spoil you and you will not ever want to go back. Then, you'll think of all the different ways you can to upgrade your mac to make it run better. Then you'll think about buying a new mac. Then you'll check out eBay to see how much you can sell your DV mac for. Then you'll spend a ton of $$ to buy new OS X software.

I run a Powerbook Lombard 333mhz with OS X and it's not too bad. My main OS X machine is a B&W with a 500mhz upgrade card. Your experience should be fine. Just be sure to max out your RAM.
 
Re: Why not OSX?

Originally posted by QuiteSure
Sure! The worst that can happen is it's too slow and you go back to OS9.2

But remember: OSX will spoil you and you will not ever want to go back. Then, you'll think of all the different ways you can to upgrade your mac to make it run better. Then you'll think about buying a new mac. Then you'll check out eBay to see how much you can sell your DV mac for. Then you'll spend a ton of $$ to buy new OS X software.

I run a Powerbook Lombard 333mhz with OS X and it's not too bad. My main OS X machine is a B&W with a 500mhz upgrade card. Your experience should be fine. Just be sure to max out your RAM.
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I have 384 MB RAM and already have a new iMac with OS X, so I just have to use that one's CD. I already used it's 9.2 for the slower iMac
 
Originally posted by nero007
I've heard several stories from someone working at Frys about people coming in because of these Ads and buying Macs. I'd say they are definetly working.
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You are right about that. I used to be able to walk into my local Frys and play with (drool over) any mac in the store. Now I have to stand in line. I don't mind at all.
 
Re: Re: Re: I think they are great...

Originally posted by The Grimace


Off topic, I know, but I keep hearing this, and yet LimeWire runs so much smoother on my K6-2 350 w/ Win98SE (homemade) than on my iMac DV 400 with 10.1.5. Scrolling is painfully slow, and there is a definate lag when switching between tabs. Get the spinning cursor too often. And it crashes at least half the time I run it, often during launch, since the 2.4.4 update.

Wonder whats goin' on...

(tig)
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When you install software sometimes prebinding needs to get updated. If you don't leave the machine on overnight, your logfiles can start to fill up your machine. Two utilities solve this problem free:

http://personalpages.tds.net/~brian_hill/macjanitor.html

http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=12743&db=mac (Pacifist updates prebinding)

Apple uses the prebinding command during each System update to optimize the system.
 
Originally posted by DavPeanut
I have a iMac 400 DV, so should I install OS X on it?
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I run 10.1.5 on an iMac DV 400 (lime) w/ 320MB RAM, and have no real complaints. I started using it at 10.0.1, and have enjoyed performance increases with every update. Lookin' forward to Jaguar. I also run it on a Wallstreet PB with 192MB, and while it's a little slow, I still find it acceptable overall. I would suggest that you buy a two-button mouse. I use a MS Wheel Mouse Optical, and gotta say I like it, although I would prefer a 'button' wheel instead of a roller style (gotta Genius NetMouse Pro PS/2 on the PC; wonder if they make an optical version...). Two pieces of added functionality that really make it worth it are

1) Right-clicking. When used on the Dock, a hierarchal or contextual menu appears instantly (well, almost, depends if its a folder and a file list needs to be loaded). And it seems most apps support it in some way.

2) Scrolling. All I have to do is point at a window, and so long as it's in focus, I can scroll. This is darned handy when using the Finder in column view; you can scroll through a column without having to click in it. Or when checking out a web page with frames(?), or multiple scrollable fields.

And this functionality appears by default, at least for me.

Anyways, hope this helps.

(tig)
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: I think they are great...

Originally posted by gopher


When you install software sometimes prebinding needs to get updated. If you don't leave the machine on overnight, your logfiles can start to fill up your machine. Two utilities solve this problem free:

Apple uses the prebinding command during each System update to optimize the system.
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Done the pre-binding thing via Terminal (I'm a wannabe geek, doncha know. Took a Unix class last year, just to get ready for OS X.). Doesn't seem to help. Thanks for the suggestion, though. It's appreciated.

(tig)
 
Originally posted by The Grimace
...I use a MS Wheel Mouse Optical, and gotta say I like it, although I would prefer a 'button' wheel instead of a roller style (gotta Genius NetMouse Pro PS/2 on the PC; wonder if they make an optical version...)...
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A couple years ago I was looking at the UniMouse from Contour Design, and I decided against it because I wanted an actual wheel, not a button. Seems you're in the opposite sitchy-aishun, so check it out! (I know, their web site is terrible... oh well.)

As if anyone cares, I got the iOptiJr from Macally instead.. so small! I really like it - works flawlessly, portable, but not uncomfortably small (although I am sure a lot of you would say it's too small - you're just puck-mouse reactionaries!!).
 
Originally posted by jg3

As if anyone cares, I got the iOptiJr from Macally instead.. so small!
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That mouse seriously rocks. A friend of mine has it and although it appears too small, it is actually quite comfortable. For those who want to match their new White Pro Keyboard, Macally is coming out with a white version soon.
 
Originally posted by tfaz1


I disagree. These commercials speak to people who've been "spected" to death in advertising. MHz this, CD-RW that, RAM updrades and rebates, etc. These 'real people' are actually talking about their experiences with the product and about how Apple has improved their lives. It's the oldest most sincere form of advertising: word of mouth.

I would never have 'switched' if I didn't get such glowing reviews from two of my good friends.
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Same here. My interest in Apple and my decision to switch started with a good friend of mine who had been relying on them for years to run his company. My big worry was that all of my clients are on PC platforms (many using WordPerfect). Once I saw for myself that Mac-PC could be a seamless working relationship...welll...the rest is history.

By the way, to the guy who was wondering whether to upgrade his iMac 400 to OS X, I had the same model and it ran fine (better than fine, in fact). Just make sure you have at least 256 megs of RAM in the thing.

Best regards
Patrick
 
I would like to see more like the latest David Carey spot. Throw out some applications that PC users are using and let them know they work on the mac. Say Internet Explorer, etc.

A lot of people out there don't even know PC's and macs have different operating systems, believe it or not. They just see macs as a more expensive version.

Make the spots a little more specific than just waving your hands and saying my life is so much simpler, I can do more on my mac, etc.

I do love where the ads are heading though.
 
Re: Magazine Publisher ???!!!

Originally posted by savagegibson
Can't we find a freaking doctor or lawyer or anyone who is expected to use a PC. Who's idea was it to pick a magazine publisher? How far did they have to look to find a mac user in the magazine industry?

I REALLY like the campaign, but I wish the people had more typical "Windows-type" jobs.
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I'm a doctor, I use a Mac.

arn
 
Re: Re: Magazine Publisher ???!!!

Originally posted by arn


I'm a doctor, I use a Mac.

arn
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I'm a lawyer and I use a mac too. Unfortunately, I've been using macs since 1987 so I don't really qualify for the "switch" campaign.
 
Re: Re: Magazine Publisher ???!!!

Originally posted by Nipsy


If Apple can target the markets where it has a foothold (arts, small business, publishing, advertising, etc.), and up percentages, they'll begin to be taken more seriously by the über corporate types. Imagine if ad agencies went back to 1987, and were 70% Apple. That's huge!
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I would have to image that ad agencies were higher than that, and that they were higher until at least 1995.

I don't think adobe even produced applications for windows until windows '95 came out. Things were so different before 1995. There were no non-linear editing systems for windows. Avid, Media 100, Premiere (I think), VideoCube... all mac only. Avid stuck until 97 or 98. Media 100 until 98.
 
thanks for the glowing welcome, Grokgod! ;) -nice name. i picture you with a power mac. you appear intelligent. mmmmm. i think i love you too

what is this obsession that so many mac maniacs get? - every time i see one of those new ads i start drooling over ipods and maybe, when mac comes out with colored ibooks, a different color for every room in my house and, and, so on . . .

i think apple will add more people with pcheese jobs to their campaign- they know they have a good thing going here and i bet they will pull out all the stops.

so great to be around all the happy mac people:)
 
You know, Gates isn't that bad a guy... I mean, all he wants to do is take over the world and have his hand in all our wallets. IS THAT SO WRONG? :D
 
x86 code on a Mac

Originally posted by TypeR389
on a mac, if you don't mind re-learning a little. Heck, I am a windows developer, and I am STILL thinking of getting a mac as my primary laptop. too bad I can't compile a x86 program on it. Yea, I know I can write other languages, but my reality is I write software for large companies, none that use macs as their standard machine, so I have to write to what they use.
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I could be wrong, but I think there are at least 2 ways to compile x86 code on a Mac (certainly, a recent portable Mac):

1. Run Virtual PC
2. Use an IDE that permits cross platform compiles (you'd still need VPC or a PC to test your final deployment, though).

For example, the RealBasic IDE permits compiles targeted at Windows, the NeXT inspired ProjectBuilder used to be able to do that (maybe there is a plugin that permits that again), and I believe CodeWarrior IDEs permit crossplatform development, too!

There is, of course, option 3:

3. Use Pure Java!

:D
 
Re: Re: I think they are great...

Originally posted by Nipsy


Ummm...software development? Do you mean Windows object developmet?
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Yea, sorry if I was not explicit, yes compiliing x86 native code. I also do Java and web development, which I can easily do on mac, but compiling that windows DLL is still sort of a pain...
 
Re: x86 code on a Mac

Originally posted by drricky


I could be wrong, but I think there are at least 2 ways to compile x86 code on a Mac (certainly, a recent portable Mac):

1. Run Virtual PC
2. Use an IDE that permits cross platform compiles (you'd still need VPC or a PC to test your final deployment, though).
3. Use Pure Java!

:D
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Yea I know, but 'I' don't control the language is being written in. I am a consultant, so one week I might be doing VB, the next C++, then some JAVA, then some oracle forms etc. I can suggest a platform if I am working that early on, but no typically.

and yes, I know virtual PC is an option, but not the best one in all reality. Even with that though, as soon as I score my next contract I am thinking of switching myself. The new laptops are just too sweet!
 
Re: Re: Re: I think they are great...

Originally posted by TypeR389


Yea, sorry if I was not explicit, yes compiliing x86 native code. I also do Java and web development, which I can easily do on mac, but compiling that windows DLL is still sort of a pain...
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I personally deal with the .NET Framework because: 1.) I like it, it's GREAT. 2.) Simply an awesome API for Windows dev 3.) I can earn more money by also knowing .NET (I can support Mac, Win, and Unix as I develop for all of them).

I hope mono [go-mono.com] project goes very well. If they do indeed do a good port to OS X and Linux, I might never rely on different languages, I can simply stay on C# with one GUI and compile it once and it will run on Mac, Windows, and Unix.

I do `csc /t:library /out:mydll.dll file1.cs file2cs file3.cs' often without having problems. Are you using the old API (Win32) that were so ****ty that everyone gave up on C++ in Windows and went with Visual Basic.

It's really amazing that many people (mostly anti-M$) have huge misconceptions on what .NET really is. It's a simply fantastic programming framework, especially for productivity. Why waste time with streneous(sp) C++ code when you can quickly do RAD easily and retain the power of C++ with C#.

The .NET Framework usage is growing and growing every day. Hell, PHP and ASP (classic ASP) are well proven technology, yet I have not been hired to do an application in either PHP or ASP. First job I landed on--ASP.NET with C#. Whatever gives me money so I can get my hands on some bad puppy Macs.

I just use Windows for earning money for Macs to use. :rolleyes:

Anyways, going to sleep, I must wake up in time to sign on the iMac to view the Macworld stream.
 
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