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Isn't it EDGE data? Or is it really throttled to just 3G data?

I have T-Mobile, but to be honest I don't exactly remember. I'm usually have 1.5-2.5GB per month usage, and I used to use about 2.5 out of my 2GB of data, then they added an extra 0.5GB per line promotion free of cost (so now you get 2.5GB for same price), so that covered me most months. Then they also added free music streaming (pandora, spotify, etc) so that doesn't use my data anymore, and I rarely go over (get throttled) at all anymore. For the rare times that I had, they also now added the data stash feature; so I've got gigs of data in my stash now for any times I go past 2.5GB. This may seem petty, but I'm very happy with my service given my usage lol.

If I'm not mistaken, it is indeed 2G (edge). I would test it out but it'd be pretty difficult for me at this point to run out of data unless I just blew it all on downloading some 4k video to my phone which would max out the storage before completion anyway.
 
Data speed is throttled to 2G speeds (128kbps) after high speed data allotment is used up.

T-Mobile's Simple Choice plans include tethering up to your high speed data allotment. So this new 10gb plan will let you use up to 10gb of your data for tethering. Unlimited high speed plans get 7gb of tethering.
 
Dear T mobile. Please put as much effort into expanding your network as you do coming up with these monthly gimmick plans. 1 mile out side of Dallas and all you get is super slow edge or no service.
Where have you been? They have put a TON of effort into expanding their network over the past 2 years. They had zero LTE a little over 2 years ago and now almost their entire network is covered with LTE. These things take time, and of course they will focus on major metro areas and converting existing 2G to LTE before expanding to new coverage areas. With LTE rollout on 2G sites nearing completion and new 700mhz spectrum being put to use (and 600mhz on the horizon), we should start seeing their footprint expand in the near future.

That being said, if you need the coverage now, then pay for it. T-Mobile is not going to touch the coverage that Verizon and AT&T has, not for a very long time. They're #1 and #2 despite being expensive for a reason - you get what you pay for. T-Mobile is an amazing value if it works for your needs. If you always get no service or 2G data where you need it then you need to switch to another provider. No use complaining about coverage while having a paperweight of a phone and paying for service you can't use. Cricket wireless is comparable in price to T-Mobile and it uses AT&T's network (downside is 4G is throttled to 8mbps), which could be a great option for you if T-Mobile isn't working where you need it to.
 
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My wife only gets 6% off with Verizon through her employer. Meanwhile, her employer's AT&T discount is 24%. I wish Verizon would match AT&T's discount but that's not in the cards. I asked a Verizon CSR if they could match it and the rep said they won't match it and he said we wouldn't qualify for any other discounts unless we signed another contract -- which I won't do.

interesting. that does stink. my wife's discount with at&t was 23% but with that verizon promotion ($80/10GB), the 17% off with verizon was a better deal (and better coverage in my office, otherwise, at&t is phenomenal where I'm at).
 
Isn't it EDGE data? Or is it really throttled to just 3G data?
It's either 128kbs or 64kbs, depending on your data plan. Regardless of what G you're on, it's slow.
Source: http://www.cnet.com/news/t-mobile-agrees-to-reveal-customers-throttled-speeds/

The "Unlimited" portion of their data plan is bologna. Pay the $10 and double your data that month, if it's a heavy month. Or suffer through 56k speeds until your next billing cycle.

T-Mobile's generous amounts of data and their Data Stash system should prevent most users from ever going near their data limits, however.
 
John Legere's quote:

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"It's no surprise Verizon's spent what looks to be over $100 million in just two months promoting an $80 data plan with 10GB everyone has to share. The catch is, it's not actually an $80 plan. You can't actually use any of that data until you pay additional 'line access' fees for data you've already bought," said John Legere, president and CEO of T-Mobile.

"So, when they say $80, they actually charge a family of four at least $140. And that's to share 10GB. Leave it to Verizon to push a plan that gives you a pile of data you can't use unless you fork over more in hidden fees."



John Legere is such a hypocrite. I sent the following email to john.legere@t-mobile.com today hoping that it's the right address:

On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Michael wrote:

Hi John,

I just wanted to let you know that when I called a T-Mobile sales rep today to find out about switching my four Verizon lines to T-Mobile, I was surprised to hear that what you guys are advertising doesn't actually match the truth of the deal that you are giving and really contradicts your policy of "no hidden fees."

You are advertising the T-Mobile Jump deal as "no money down " with approved credit. From my standpoint of wanting an iPhone,it turns out that it's only no money down with a 16gb iPhone. The 64gb and 128gb sizes require $99 or $199 down regardless of having good credit. Who the hell wants a 16gb phone these days? I call that a bait and switch. "No money down" only on the least desirable phone.

I am assuming that you are not aware of how your company is operating because otherwise you would not be so critical of at&t and Verizon on hidden fees. If you are aware, you would be considered a hypocrite. If you are aware of this, please start practicing what you seem to rant about in the press. No money down with good credit should mean no money down period.

Michael


I hope he reads my email. T-Mobile makes him look like a fool with him always ranting in the press about AT&T and Verizon on the **** that they do.
 
John Legere's quote:

Quote
"It's no surprise Verizon's spent what looks to be over $100 million in just two months promoting an $80 data plan with 10GB everyone has to share. The catch is, it's not actually an $80 plan. You can't actually use any of that data until you pay additional 'line access' fees for data you've already bought," said John Legere, president and CEO of T-Mobile.

"So, when they say $80, they actually charge a family of four at least $140. And that's to share 10GB. Leave it to Verizon to push a plan that gives you a pile of data you can't use unless you fork over more in hidden fees."



John Legere is such a hypocrite. I sent the following email to john.legere@t-mobile.com today hoping that it's the right address:

On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Michael wrote:

Hi John,

I just wanted to let you know that when I called a T-Mobile sales rep today to find out about switching my four Verizon lines to T-Mobile, I was surprised to hear that what you guys are advertising doesn't actually match the truth of the deal that you are giving and really contradicts your policy of "no hidden fees."

You are advertising the T-Mobile Jump deal as "no money down " with approved credit. From my standpoint of wanting an iPhone,it turns out that it's only no money down with a 16gb iPhone. The 64gb and 128gb sizes require $99 or $199 down regardless of having good credit. Who the hell wants a 16gb phone these days? I call that a bait and switch. "No money down" only on the least desirable phone.

I am assuming that you are not aware of how your company is operating because otherwise you would not be so critical of at&t and Verizon on hidden fees. If you are aware, you would be considered a hypocrite. If you are aware of this, please start practicing what you seem to rant about in the press. No money down with good credit should mean no money down period.

Michael


I hope he reads my email. T-Mobile makes him look like a fool with him always ranting in the press about AT&T and Verizon on the **** that they do.
I see no problem with how T-mobile is advertising that.....as it is true
 
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John Legere's quote:

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"It's no surprise Verizon's spent what looks to be over $100 million in just two months promoting an $80 data plan with 10GB everyone has to share. The catch is, it's not actually an $80 plan. You can't actually use any of that data until you pay additional 'line access' fees for data you've already bought," said John Legere, president and CEO of T-Mobile.

"So, when they say $80, they actually charge a family of four at least $140. And that's to share 10GB. Leave it to Verizon to push a plan that gives you a pile of data you can't use unless you fork over more in hidden fees."



John Legere is such a hypocrite. I sent the following email to john.legere@t-mobile.com today hoping that it's the right address:

On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Michael wrote:

Hi John,

I just wanted to let you know that when I called a T-Mobile sales rep today to find out about switching my four Verizon lines to T-Mobile, I was surprised to hear that what you guys are advertising doesn't actually match the truth of the deal that you are giving and really contradicts your policy of "no hidden fees."

You are advertising the T-Mobile Jump deal as "no money down " with approved credit. From my standpoint of wanting an iPhone,it turns out that it's only no money down with a 16gb iPhone. The 64gb and 128gb sizes require $99 or $199 down regardless of having good credit. Who the hell wants a 16gb phone these days? I call that a bait and switch. "No money down" only on the least desirable phone.

I am assuming that you are not aware of how your company is operating because otherwise you would not be so critical of at&t and Verizon on hidden fees. If you are aware, you would be considered a hypocrite. If you are aware of this, please start practicing what you seem to rant about in the press. No money down with good credit should mean no money down period.

Michael


I hope he reads my email. T-Mobile makes him look like a fool with him always ranting in the press about AT&T and Verizon on the **** that they do.

Dude, you realize the 16GB iPhone is by far the most popular one, right?
 
That really doesn't matter. Go to their website and you'll see that they are advertising no money down with approved credit. That is simply not true.

From my point of view, it makes sense. They remove the standard $200 subsidy, bringing the prices to $0, $99, and $199, for 16GB, 64GB, and 128GB, respectively.
 
From my point of view, it makes sense. They remove the standard $200 subsidy, bringing the prices to $0, $99, and $199, for 16GB, 64GB, and 128GB, respectively.
The T-Mobile Jump, Verizon Edge, and ATT Next plans have nothing to do with a subsidy. You pay full price for the phone. I am on Verizon Edge right now and paid zero up front, zero down for my family's four iPhone 6's last fall (three 64gb and one 128gb). They break the payments up and you pay over time interest free. You then get to upgrade to a new device after paying x% based on what the arrangement is. A subsidy relates to the 2 year contract plans which have nothing to do with Jump, Edge, and Next. My main point stands: No money down means no money down. T-Mobile is advertising it but not actually doing it like I did with Verizon last fall.
 
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You guys that seem to think nothing is wrong must be thinking about 2 year contracts. You're in the wrong thread. TMobile Jump and the other carriers' equivalents are not contracts whatsoever.
 
You guys that seem to think nothing is wrong must be thinking about 2 year contracts. You're in the wrong thread. TMobile Jump and the other carriers' equivalents are not contracts whatsoever.

I admit I could've worded my post better. When I said about removing the subsidy, I meant essentially replacing it with "$0 down." I understand that under a 2-year contract, you pay 'x' amount upfront, then pay increased service charges every month, even when the contract is up. Whereas with Tmo/VzEdge/AttNext, you pay nothing OR 'x' upfront and then pay 'deviceCost'/24months every month until the balance on the device is equal to $0.

Early upgrade plans are an entirely different (confusing to me) beast...
 
I admit I could've worded my post better. When I said about removing the subsidy, I meant essentially replacing it with "$0 down." I understand that under a 2-year contract, you pay 'x' amount upfront, then pay increased service charges every month, even when the contract is up. Whereas with Tmo/VzEdge/AttNext, you pay nothing OR 'x' upfront and then pay 'deviceCost'/24months every month until the balance on the device is equal to $0.

Early upgrade plans are an entirely different (confusing to me) beast...
Yeah early upgrades are what attracted me to Edge. I paid zero down for our 3 64gb's an 1 128 and then $37 ish per month for x months but am eligible to trade it in after paying 60% of the device. Then you start over. You never truly pay the full price. That puts my family in the position to all get new iPhones this fall. There's never an upgrade $36 fee on these things either. I believe Verizon has since changed the trade in payoff percentage to 75% but I'm still good for 60% on these 4 phones.
 
I signed up for the T-Mobile 7 day test drive and have been using my phone for a couple of days now. The coverage is decent in my area though not as good as my at&t. I am still trying to decide if it's worth the savings for me to switch. From my calculations, I am only paying $5-8 more per month for my lines on at&t when I factor my corporate discount of 23% from my employer. I called T-Mobile CS tonight to inquire more about the new plans and I was totally unimpressed with the CS rep that I spoke with. I felt like I was calling somebody down at the local pool hall or something, I might as well have because this guy seemed to know very little about the new plans. He informed me that if I sign up before labor day that I could get the 5th line for $20 more and the other 4 would be $100 making 5 lines $120. I questioned him on this since the website mentions 4 lines for $120 but he assured me that I could get 5 lines for $120. Does anyone know if that is correct? He also told me that this plan does not have the ability to add tablets, except to add using standard tablet pricing of $10 for 3GB or something like that, and that I could not use my 15% corp. discount on these plans. As for jump pricing on phones, he said they would need to run my credit first to give me pricing info.
 
If the advertisement stated 16gb with no money down, your statement would be correct.
 
For someone who wants to purchase a 64 or 128, their advertising is false. A 16gb size is irrelevant in my situation.
Can you get an iPhone with no money down? Yes. And that's how advertising works.
 
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Can you get an iPhone with no money down? Yes. And that's how advertising works.
Read some of Legere's rants and his point is that the other carriers are using misleading advertising. That brings us back to my original point. No money down advertising includes all models in that advertisement. No models are specified meaning all.
 
Read some of Legere's rants and his point is that the other carriers are using misleading advertising. That brings us back to my original point. No money down advertising includes all models in that advertisement. No models are specified meaning all.
No models specified doesn't mean all.

Now if you are trying to use all that to say that they all realistically have some fine print or limitations as to what the advertising might apply to, then sure, that's pretty much always the case in advertising.
 
No models specified doesn't mean all.

Now if you are trying to use all that to say that they all realistically have some fine print or limitations as to what the advertising might apply to, then sure, that's pretty much always the case in advertising.
Explain that to the idiot John Legere. My original point is that he is a hypocrite for his rants about the other carriers and his company does the same s**t.
 
Explain that to the idiot John Legere. My original point is that he is a hypocrite for his rants about the other carriers and his company does the same s**t.
Well, having something not apply to everything that the company offers but still apply to something nonetheless is one thing, while implying that the total monthly cost of a plan is something when there's absolutely no circumstance when that would be true is another.
 
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Well, having something not apply to everything that the company offers but still apply to something nonetheless is one thing, while implying that the total monthly cost of a plan is something when there's absolutely no circumstance when that would be true is another.
The fine print of Verizon and ATT typically gives relevant details to inform the customer. T-Mobile fine print in my situation says absolutely nothing about phone applicability until you start the order process. Their advertising is BS which has intentions of misleading the customer. I was on T-Mobile's site yesterday a good while and found nothing whatsoever about phone applicability for the "no money down" deal. I called and spoke with an experienced Tmo rep who was certain I would not need to put money down on the 64 or 128 and she called me back today apologizing about their website being uninformative about the true details of their offering. Their crap advertising (or lack of) is not only misleading to the customer but to their own employees as well. My point stands; Legere is a gd fool.
 
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