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You want my MAC? That is really funny, shows how you didn't really read now, did you! Just selective quoting! Things have long been resolved in most issues.

And dangerfish, THAT is exactly what we're trying to reach at! I see you did that with MobileMe. We're trying to figure out if we can do that too, it doesn't work and/or is supported with all servers though, so we're still in the discovery phase of that. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will work.


And Crimson, you don't read, you don't contribute, so why don't you go play in another sandbox. The bear is dead, all issues you have brought up again, have long been solved.
 
How many groups do former MS Windows "switchers" fall into, pray tell? :D

I'd assume most of them, but then I don't know the formal definition of a "switcher". Personally I haven't switched from Windows to Apple as I use both, quite happily.

Its part of human nature for some people to want justify their decisions. Some then take that one step further to tell people what they are doing is wrong. If smoking is anything to go by, typically the most vehement anti-smokers are usually ex-smokers. So it seems resonable to assume that those who have formed a personal relationship with Apple Inc. are probably those who decided to "renounce" their previous techs and "join" Apple.

And besides, with most computers on the planet running Windows it would be hard for someone not to use Windows before subsequently buying a more expensive Mac.

All conjecture of course, but as you asked it seemed rude not to respond. :D
 
OP,

Sorry your Mac died. But they will fix it or get you a new one. Apple electronics are not immune to the hardware problems that other computers have. Things break. But I can tell you that I have owned 8 Macs since 2000 and all have run flawlessly. As to your other problems, it seems to me that you expect everything to work just the same as it did on Windows and it does not. You are going to have to put forth an effort to learn some new things. I would venture to guess that 99% of your problems are user related. But thats ok, we are here to help.
1. Finder font:Seems as if TinkerTool solves this problem.
2. Underperforms your old Vaio. Not in a million years.
3. Mail. Get rid of POP. That is so 1993. In general, POP is not set up to keeps servers in sync with your desktop software, although sometime you may be able to do that. You need IMAP. Keeping things in sync across multiple computers and the server is what it does. Do not use Entourage. It sucks. In Mail, if you dont like the order the folders get put in by default, then move them. Drag and drop. I have for instance orders@storeA.com on a POP server. On that server I have the following mailboxes; inbox, junk, orders Dec 09, orders NOV 09, orders OCT 09, supplier A, supplier B, supplier C, backorders. Just to name a few. Now MacMail is set to download inbox for multiple emails, but no able to download multiple mailboxes from 1 server. I dont understand what any of this means. You dont have multiple mailboxes for a single email. You may have multiple folders for that email but only one inbox. Mail can download and sync inboxes and folders from multiple email addresses (including an Exchange Server) and it will dump them all into the inbox but you can also go into the separate inboxes individually if you like. And what the heck is a mobile unit?
4. Contacts. If you imported all of your contacts at once into Address Book, then of course they are all going to be bunched together in the contacts list. Create some groups like I have for our two iPhones and import your Biz A, Biz B, Biz C, Personal, etc into the groups.
5. QB. Again, the Mac version sucks. Dont use it.
6. CS v. iLife. The purpose of these two sets of applications are completely different. One is consumer and one is professional. Consumer will never do what professional does. If you were using CS before, you will still need to use it. However, to say that iLife is limited is naive. iLife is a fantastic set of applications and I am just guessing that you dont have the slightest clue how to begin getting the most out of them. Buy a book. That is not to say that they will do what you need. I dont think you have stated what it is that you are trying to do.

There are lots of people on this board who would love to help you, myself included. If you would explain your issues in an orderly fashion, it would be helpful. Explain what you want to do, what you have done to try and accomplish it and what the results have been. So for example:
Hello, I would like to accomplish X. I tried to do the following....... but then ......... happened which is not what I wanted. Can any one help?
Please avoid doing the following:
Hello, I am trying to accomplish X but this stupid underpowered POS doesnt do half of what my 30 year old Windows computer would do. I am an awesome, super computer user and since I cant make it work, it must suck.
 

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I can't get rid of POP, no matter how 'old' that is. Having multiple mailboxes or if you prefer to call them folders, is a must, I can not have all my mail go into 1 inbox, that would be a complete and utter disaster!

I get about 15-20 orders a day, each order generates about 5 different emails (item sold, order confirmation, payment confirmation, item shipped/tracking no, item delivered), so generally that is 75-100 emails daily, or about 3000 emails per month, excluding the emails I get questions, items returned etc. (Just my 'orders Dec has 5297 emails in them).

If I have handled an email properly, I move it to another mailbox/folder, like 'orders Dec', so I know it has been taken care of. AT the end of the day, my inbox is 'empty', all things taken care of. There would be no way of keeping track of things if I didn't separate all my emails. Can you imagine having 15k + of emails in your inbox, o my word........

A mobile unit is just that, a tractor trailer with the whole shop. Since we are on the road much of the summer season, but still ship, and answer questions, I need the mailboxes/folders, to look for something, or if somebody has a question about returns etc. Industry standard is a 90 day return policy, so I have to have 90 days of sales 'at hand' where ever I am. So that means on the server. After 90 days I move them to the external hard drive or other back up. The IRS requires you to keep records for 5 years in my line of business, so I often burn a DVD.

Though I agree about POP/IMAP, it is not my choice. The online ecommerce site comes with that (and yes there is much improvement to be had with that company, unfortunately, others are not much better or even worse in SEO abilities, and if they can't find you, you can't sell). I have tried forwarding to a gmail, but too much got 'stuck' and too many costumers emails went into outerspace. Obviously not good for business.

I am repeating myself here, I have all said this before.

I've long taken care of the font, after the first mention of tinker tool.

Dumping QB, I wish, o I so wish, and everytime I have to prepare my taxes and see all the things QB did wrong I'd be soo ready to dish it, but again not an option. There is no (affordable) small business accounting tool available, they are all worse, plus :mad:, that is what my accountant wants. And no, I'm not going to switch accountants, as we also run a horse breeding farm, and agricultural accountants, that know about the horse taxes are VERY hard to find. Also not all merchant accounts (i.e. to accept credit cards), work with other software, and if you don't accept credit card you don't sell. Most mobile cc link directly into QB, which keeps my inventory up to date and tells me when to order new, and a quick look this way makes me be able to tell customers at the mobile unit whether I can have it sent from our home base. BUT QB is coming with a patch, supposedly before the summer this year. And then that will be a little less painful? Or so I wish :D I'll deal with this, I have dealt with QB for some time, I'm sure I'll survive this too.

The contacts have long been pointed out and fixed.

As to iLife vs CS, I use CS. And I was very very very disappointed when I realized what the deal was. I was told including at the Apple store that I could do all that with iLife. I should have asked deeper, and I am taking responsibility for that, but the sales person was a great sales person. And even when I said that I worked with CS, he said I would be thrilled to work with the MAC software. THAT is what clinched the deal. So we purchased the MAC, and the 1-2-1 guys is showing me around the MAC and iLife about 1 week after purchase. And I'm like, so how do you do X. And he goes like, well, you can't do that with iLife. WHAT????!!!!!!!! And how about Y, NOPE, Z? NOPE, you need Adobe, aperture/final cut won't do that. I was furious, disappointed and depressed and until somebody pointed out you can call Adobe for a change, at the end of my wits. There is no comparison between the 2. iLife may be great for college students, families etc, but not for what I'm doing. Compared to what I do it IS very basic. Avatar was not made on iLife for a reason. (then again, my work falls very short of Avatar, also for a reason :D)

And then, though the basics of OS are just fine and easy, I find that one thing after another is either NOT or barely compatible with OS.

Currently, except that my computer is 'dead', my biggest problem is the whole POP thing. I know it works just fine in Outlook, but outlook is not available on a MAC. There is supposed to be a way around it in 'thunderbird', and it was my task of the day to see if that would work on the MAC, as it does under Windows, the day before I had tried with MacFreepop, but that *may* :eek: have caused the failure (no conclusive on that). Entourage is supposed to have a fix for that, but I haven't found that one out just yet. I have extensively tried with both the Apple phone support and the store to get this to work, but Mail and MobileMe don't support this server/client.

I'm beginning to think that online the webbased solution is going to work.

As to the VAIO outperforming the MAC, of course not with speed and other things, but on the VAIO I can currently handle all my emails, and my accounting and my designing, I can't on the MAC, so yes, it is outperforming at this moment. As long as I'm unable to do things on the MAC (aside from it being dead at the moment), it isn't worth much. And an old and slow VAIO is. My time is money, if I can't do my business on the MAC, but I can on the VAIO, then there is no comparison.

If anybody knows of any way to download multiple mailboxes/folders in ANY mail application, I would be thrilled, THAT is the only real problem, the rest is no big deal and dealt with.
 
MariekeFJ, you certainly have plenty of time on your hands to write SO MUCH. :D. I've been reading this whole thread and I just one question for you. Despite all the pushy recommendations you got from colleagues about getting a Mac, why did you get it? Was there something going wrong with your Windows set up? I mean, regardless how much anyone recommends a product to me, if what I have works then I won't change to something else. Just curious. :)
 
MariekeFJ,

Ok, so aside from your Mac being dead, it looks like we are down to 3 problems.

1. CS: apparently you need more than the iLife package but it sounds like you can get all that worked out.
2. QB: I wasnt saying dump QB altogether (I wish I could too). I was just saying dump QB Mac. It is horrible. Stick with Windows QB so you will have all the features you need and are used to. Buy Parallels and install Windows XP and you can run Windows QB side by side with all your Mac stuff.
3. Email: I am still having trouble determining what the problem is but then I havent used POP in so long that I may not be familiar with all the deficiencies compared to IMAP. It seems to me that you should be able to do what you want. Perhaps you can tell us who your email service provider is and we can investigate. For instance, I have my own domain for my personal email and switching from POP to IMAP is literally as simple as clicking a button on your email admin page. Regardless, you seem to be forcing yourself to be doing much more work than in necessary related to all your emails. Mail has ways for you to automate a lot of this work by using Rules and Smart Mailboxes. You can even create Rules to automatically archive the emails you no longer need. Here are just a few quick links that may or may not apply to your situation but might give you some ideas on how to lighten your work load.
http://www.43folders.com/2007/04/23/mail-smart-folders
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2500
http://www.switchingtomac.com/tutorials/smart-mailboxes-in-mac-mail/
http://guides.macrumors.com/Archiving_E-Mail
Even if you still want to manually move emails around to the folder of your choosing, I dont see why that wouldnt be possible. If I get an important email with a software activation code or something, I manually drag it over to my "Save" folder. This then saves it both on my Mac and on the server and updates on all my other Macs as well. I recommend doing some research on some of the more advanced features of Mail to see if it cant meet your needs.
 
I can't get rid of POP, no matter how 'old' that is. Having multiple mailboxes or if you prefer to call them folders, is a must, I can not have all my mail go into 1 inbox, that would be a complete and utter disaster!

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If anybody knows of any way to download multiple mailboxes/folders in ANY mail application, I would be thrilled, THAT is the only real problem, the rest is no big deal and dealt with.

Hello MariekeFJ

I'm trying to understand the email situation, so please excuse me if I'm repeating something obvious. IF you only worked on the iMac (i.e. no travelling) then downloading all of your email into Apple Mail would be fine because you could do all your sorting etc on the iMac, and all of the sorted mail is always available to you. HOWEVER, because you travel you need to keep your email sorted on the server so that you can access from the road. Is this an accurate statement?

If that is the case, would it make sense to trade in the iMac for a Mac notebook? Perhaps between the font issue (don't tell the Apple store that you have found a resolution) and dead machine they would waive the restocking fee. A MacBook Pro plugged into an external monitor at home would give you the screen real-estate to edit websites, etc. It would also allow you to have all your emails in one spot regardless of whether you are travelling or not.

Apple Mail has some pretty powerful features for keeping message organized, and if you combine that with some 3rd party software there are even more possibilities. Its sounds like email is the most critical piece of your day to day business. With software like MailTags and/or Bento you might be able to save a lot time in your daily email sessions.
 
I haven't really looked through this thread, but if your problem is just setting up multiple POP accounts, why are we even looking at Thunderbird? They can all be setup in Mail.app.

Mail > Preferences > Accounts.

Press the plus button on the bottom left, and you've created a new account! Ta-da!
 
I can top that. My wife switched in 2005 to a PowerMac (Dual 2.3 G5). She worked with it until 2007 when she purchased a Gateway with Vista (yuck!). That lasted only a few weeks. She took back the G5 she gave me and I purchased the Gateway from her so she could get another driver and memory.

Vista really did Apple a favor. By January or February, 2008, she had a new Mac Pro, I had the G5. The Gateway became a HTPC around April because I hated Vista that much. Upgraded the G5 (6GB of memory, 2nd drive, new software to replace the Windows stuff) and then in 2009, she upgraded again for the graphics card. The 2008 Mac Pro was my b'day present and it now has 4 drives, 12GB of memory and is my primary system. Really, Apple should send MS a thank you note for Vista. :D

I don't see the Mac Pro (2008) going any where (recent Snow Leopard upgrade is working just fine), the G5 still gets fired up on occasion and is running Leopard and the Gateway hardly gets started. We are thinking of selling it, getting a Mac Mini and use that as a HTPC. :D

Firstly, your old Sony Vaio is not outperforming your iMac.

What is happening is the typical "Switcher" problem, where you are so used to Windows and everything that goes with it, that OS X is completely alien to you.

Unless you stick with it and learn as you go along, you will get scunnered and you will give up on the Mac and OS X. My Father-in-Law detested the Mac when I got him to switch, he just couldn't get his head round OS X after years on Windows.

Now though, some 8 months on, he swears by the Mac and OS X and says he will never go back.

Give it time, have patience, and enjoy your new iMac.

Of these, the only one I buy in to is the registry problems. You lose that registry and a Windows system is useless.

The "slow downs" under Windows can sometimes be linked to a fragmented registry.

There are nasties in the wild which is why I run ClamXav. Also practicing safe browsing and computing helps.

Take care,

If you take 15 minutes to learn it, you can be more efficient on OS X.

Macs also don't contain these "pc features":
viruses. inexplicable slow downs, registery problems, etc.

Hi,

Taking exception to some of what you wrote.

If OP has Adobe already, they can switch the license. Price varies but is a dang sight cheaper than buying fresh. BTDT with PS CS to PS CS3.

Never cared for Windows built-in FTP functionality. Used Filezilla myself under Windows.

GIMP? Not sure how to respond to that one. Yes, it is free. But if one has any investment in 3rd party tools, GIMP loses right there.

An alternative to Adobe Lightroom is Apple Aperture. My wife got this for me for Christmas and I am still learning it. It is fast, flexible and really a decent Digital Asset Manager and RAW converter.

Finally, I feel you generalized a bit TOO much. I've been in and around Windows since v2. Owned it since v3 and entered the PC world under DOS 2.1. BTDT and Vista killed it for me. In fact, it was between Quicken (sunsetting my 3 year old software) and Vista (do it our way and upgrade everything I used) that got me to switch. Now I use MoneyDance 2008 and a slew of other programs. It is not because I CANNOT use Windows at home. I chose NOT to use Windows at home. It is a choice. During the day I am a Sr. Software Developer/Architect running under Windows 2003 Server using Visual Studio 2008 (and Adobe Flex/ActionScript - don't ask - we wanted SilverLight < sigh >). :D

For each use a tool is made. There is no need to bring others down. This is not aimed at you, but to all here. These decisions are made based on personal needs and choices. Let us all respect each other's tools and decisions please.

Take care,


As for a $1600 Adobe suit, what programs were you using? You can use the GIMP on OS X, which is free... and there are a few MS paint-esque programs that you can download... and that's about it.

Cyberduck is a free FTP program, but once again, there's nothing built in like with Windows.

To generalize, OS X is for people who need it for a specific reason (such as Final Cut, which doesn't run on Windows) or for people who can not use Windows without junking it up with trojans, viruses, or malware. If you do not fit into one of those two categories, there's probably no reason to struggle to use a mac.

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Me too. I used Outlook for a long time and then migrated to The BAT! email client. Contacts were kept via a Palm Treo 650 and the Palm software (after migrating from Outlook).

Getting all of that migrated successfully to OS X (Tiger at the time) was very interesting. I have 4 gmail accounts that I use and it was important to import in all the mail and contacts. Took some time and trial and error but it happened.

I suspect OP needs to export each address book individually from her Windows client to vCards. Then create a new contact group under the Address book application and import that set of vCards. Each set could go in to a sub-folder to keep things sorted. :D

I'm really interested to see what MariekeFJ says she was doing on XP that OS X is not able to do...

I was quite an advanced Windows user before changing to Mac in 2007 and I certainly will never look back! Although it takes a bit of time to get to know the OS X system it is better for me in so many ways, and I am a user who relies heavily on graphics, photo editing, video editing etc. My last computer was a Sony Vaio and I know that some of the bundled software that came with the computer included a scaled down version of Adobe Premier as well as some photo editing software, but I am confident that there are Apple replacement programs that will more than cover MariekeFJ's needs.

And trust me the OS X system is far more stable, more durable and of course isn't blighted by all the virus's, trojans and malware that virtually crippled my old XP system. And perhaps a good way of justifying some software purchases can be offset by the cost of Antivirus programs, time wastage etc...

Good luck and I hope we can help you properly once you have explained exactly what the problems are (Besides the small font size on the menu).
 
I haven't really looked through this thread, but if your problem is just setting up multiple POP accounts, why are we even looking at Thunderbird? They can all be setup in Mail.app.

Mail > Preferences > Accounts.

Press the plus button on the bottom left, and you've created a new account! Ta-da!

Hello Matthew....

You should probably look through the thread. The mail issue is bit more complicated than that. :)
 
....... would it make sense to trade in the iMac for a Mac notebook?

I agree with this. Having a Macbook Pro is probably a much better option for you. You can connect it to an external monitor with bluetooth keyboard and mouse when at home and then just pick it up and take with when you are on the road.

I understand why you feel you need all the folders. It is a very Windows way of organizing. As you saw in my attachment, I still do it. But even though all those folders are there, I rarely use them. They just arent necessary on a Mac. You mentioned that you use them to be able to search for and find emails that you may need to look at again. Mac has a search feature called Spotlight. It indexes everything on your hard drive including your emails AND the content of the emails. By using spotlight, you can locate pretty much any email without even needing to open Mail first. For instance in my attachment, you can see where I have used Spotlight to perform a search. I know that back in October, I received an email from my wife that had pictures of my daughters dressed up for Halloween. I dont know when it was sent or to which email account it was sent to. I just know that my daughters were dressed up as a spider and devil and it was labeled as such in the email. So I launched Spotlight and typed in devil and spider and it located the email. I hit "enter" and that email is presented to me. You could do the same by entering an order number or product name or customer name, etc. Mail also has its own search feature and you could search directly on a particular folder or inbox by using the same method.
 

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If I'm MIA for a bit that is a good thing :D

I have a MAC back, and it took 4 apple store techs with a lot of downloaded help, but *looks like* they managed to get POP3 on Mac MAIL!!!!!!!!!

GOOD NEWS :D:D:D:D
 
That's good. Sounds like you almost fixed all of your problems.. all in about a week also!!! I certainly hope that your business now will get a good boost in efficiency now.
 
That's good. Sounds like you almost fixed all of your problems.. all in about a week also!!! I certainly hope that your business now will get a good boost in efficiency now.

It would be great to hear from OP what she thinks about her platform change in a couple of weeks.
 
I can't get rid of POP, no matter how 'old' that is. Having multiple mailboxes or if you prefer to call them folders, is a must, I can not have all my mail go into 1 inbox, that would be a complete and utter disaster!
Quite simply put: IMAP keeps everything on the mailserver so it is in sync on every device. POP stores everything locally which causes a lot of problems for people who are using it on more then 1 device. If they are looking for an e-mail it simply comes down to searching for it on every device they have. Folders with IMAP are no problem but with POP they are. POP can use folders on the server which 99% of the mailclients can not see or they use the locally store folders in the mailclient on the device.

Some people can use rules on the mailserver to redirect mail to certain mailboxes. I have this setup with Gmail by using the rules in Gmail's webmail. A lot of mailproviders are able to do the same with their own webmail or may provide a service like that (i.o.w. ask them!). With those rules you can put mail in different mailboxes. When using POP this is not possible and you'll need to use the mailclient to do this locally. Both Entourage and Mail are able to do so (for Mail check Preferences > Rules).

Recap: the biggest difference between POP and IMAP is the simple fact that POP does everything locally and IMAP does it on the server. IMAP is more suited for people who are using it on more then 1 device (e.g. people who work on the road as well as in the office).

Though I agree about POP/IMAP, it is not my choice. The online ecommerce site comes with that (and yes there is much improvement to be had with that company, unfortunately, others are not much better or even worse in SEO abilities, and if they can't find you, you can't sell). I have tried forwarding to a gmail, but too much got 'stuck' and too many costumers emails went into outerspace. Obviously not good for business.
Have you asked them what other options you have? Like upgrading or paying an extra fee for IMAP?


And then, though the basics of OS are just fine and easy, I find that one thing after another is either NOT or barely compatible with OS.
Yes and that is the biggest problem. You just bought a completely different machine you're used to and expected it to work. You found out the hard way that it doesn't work that way. That's why migrations to different software (either operating systems or applications) can take up anywhere between 6 months to 3 years! You should have done proper research, like looking whatever you were doing on the XP laptop can work on a Mac and if you need an alternative as well as what the alternatives are. Those things take up a lot of time. After that you need to run some test to see if it works as it should and also to learn the new environment. After a while you migrate to the new environment and start using that. Because you just jumped right in (which is very very brave btw) you ran and still are running into all sorts of little to big problems (apart from the disk failure which can happen to anyone).

What you've done is what some sysadmins would call a "cold turkey migration" which is considered to be one of the stupidest things to do because it is very very error prone and mostly leads to complete failure. It can be successful if you hang on long enough but please plan some time to tinker the setup and make yourself familiar with it. In the end it will pay itself back. It's the only thing you can do right now.

I know it works just fine in Outlook, but outlook is not available on a MAC.
The Outlook is called differently on OS X and lacks some features for working in an Exchange environment (which probably isn't of any concern to you as you seem to only be using the e-mail part). Microsoft has planned a new Office for Mac version which won't have Entourage but Outlook. I've looked at the technical details but it simply seems to be Entourage being called Outlook with a bit better support for Exchange.

I'm beginning to think that online the webbased solution is going to work.
With POP that might be the best solution when you're using more then 1 device. The other solution is converting it to IMAP.

My time is money, if I can't do my business on the MAC, but I can on the VAIO, then there is no comparison.
That's why one should invest time when migrating to another software version or a completely different piece of software. It prevents a lot of problems afterwards that could potentially soak up a lot more time causing you to earn less money. Being able to still use the old system in your case is actually a lifesaver for sure.

If anybody knows of any way to download multiple mailboxes/folders in ANY mail application, I would be thrilled, THAT is the only real problem, the rest is no big deal and dealt with.
Ditch POP and start using IMAP is the only solution in that case. By judging the information in your other posts you need to get help on this subject by someone who is skilled in that. The company that hosts your mail might be able to help you.
 
If there are any remaining applications you haven't found yet, why don't you just post a list of specific applications or tasks? I'm sorry for my bluntness, but it seems like you have come here to whine about how your Mac won't work for you rather than to find out how it can.
 
Not as simple as that. In the Mail.app preferences, there is a setting for keeping the files on the server. I use POP/SMTP and have this checked. It marks the files as read when downloading from GMAIL so they no longer appear in the Inbox but the messages also stay on the server.

Quite simply put: IMAP keeps everything on the mailserver so it is in sync on every device. POP stores everything locally which causes a lot of problems for people who are using it on more then 1 device. If they are looking for an e-mail it simply comes down to searching for it on every device they have. Folders with IMAP are no problem but with POP they are. POP can use folders on the server which 99% of the mailclients can not see or they use the locally store folders in the mailclient on the device.
 
If there are any remaining applications you haven't found yet, why don't you just post a list of specific applications or tasks? I'm sorry for my bluntness, but it seems like you have come here to whine about how your Mac won't work for you rather than to find out how it can.

It is amazing how some people just don't read, and then offer no advice.

Anyways, there are still some minor 'issues', which I hope will disappear. I currently get duplicates of all mails, which is 'challenging' :D, but not that big of a deal.

One thing that I'm trying to figure out is the following, there seems to be a delay in retrieving messages. My policy is, if paid for by 1 pm Eastern it will ship same day. However, the emails with confirmation of payment gets 'stuck' and won't retrieve for about 2 hours. So @ 3pm I find out somebody DID pay before 1 pm. Gotta resolve that one way or the other.

Currently Gmail is ripping the emails from the POP3 server vs forwarding from the POP3 server (that seems to be a bigger problem).
 
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One thing that I'm trying to figure out is the following, there seems to be a delay in retrieving messages. ...

Currently Gmail is ripping the emails from the POP3 server vs forwarding from the POP3 server (that seems to be a bigger problem).

Can you be more specific about how you have your email system set-up?

If I understand what you are saying, your ecommerce site processes a payment and sends out an email confirmation. At some point GMail gets the email, and then ....?

Where is the payment confirmation email being sent to? Is it being sent to your GMail address directly, or is it going to one of your IMAP folders, and then GMail picks it up from there? Are you reading your GMail in the browser, or waiting for Apple Mail to pick it up? If you are waiting for Apple Mail to pick it up, how often is it looking for new mail? (The frequency can be set in preferences.)

Is your system repaired yet?

Cheers
 
I haven't really looked through this thread, but if your problem is just setting up multiple POP accounts, why are we even looking at Thunderbird? They can all be setup in Mail.app.

Mail > Preferences > Accounts.

Press the plus button on the bottom left, and you've created a new account! Ta-da!

Hey, i was wondering if you could do that! Thank you!!! lol, i hated having to go to hotmail accounts, whereas my gmail account is linked to my computer.
 
Can you be more specific about how you have your email system set-up?

If I understand what you are saying, your ecommerce site processes a payment and sends out an email confirmation. At some point GMail gets the email, and then ....?

Where is the payment confirmation email being sent to? Is it being sent to your GMail address directly, or is it going to one of your IMAP folders, and then GMail picks it up from there? Are you reading your GMail in the browser, or waiting for Apple Mail to pick it up? If you are waiting for Apple Mail to pick it up, how often is it looking for new mail? (The frequency can be set in preferences.)

Is your system repaired yet?

Cheers

YeS you are correct! It is on the POP server of the ecommerce site, gmail 'rips' it at certain intervals, from there it goes to Mac Mail. Going to look at preferences right now.

I suspect, that there is a delay in the POP. If I remember correctly, but not sure, you are only 'allowed' to check every 20 minutes, and if you go more often, you get blocked. I'm trying to look into this, but it is just past 1 pm Eastern, MUST SHIP:D
 
YeS you are correct! It is on the POP server of the ecommerce site, gmail 'rips' it at certain intervals, from there it goes to Mac Mail. Going to look at preferences right now.

I suspect, that there is a delay in the POP. If I remember correctly, but not sure, you are only 'allowed' to check every 20 minutes, and if you go more often, you get blocked. I'm trying to look into this, but it is just past 1 pm Eastern, MUST SHIP:D

My email provider allows me to "forward" email sent my accounts. It is set up on the email provider end. I'm guessing yours does too.

If your emails were sent to Gmail as they came in to your ecommerce email accounts then Gmail would not even have to "rip" the emails, it would just have to wait for them to come in. The other advantage of "forwarding" is that you can then time the delays. There will be one set of time-stamps at the POP3 account for mail in and mail out. And then you can get the time stamp at GMail to see when the POP3 mail out arrived at GMail. I suspect the delay will be at the ecommerce site.... but that is just a hunch.

I'll bet you never thought you were going to become an email network specialist! :)
 
Either the ecommerce email system is horrible or Gmail is having issues retrieving, either way, shouldn't be a 2 hr delay.
 
I think your best bet would be to get some paid IT support, someone who can work with you to sort out all these issues. You sound like you have way too many issues to expect them to be resolved on a computer forum.

I would personally install Windows XP on Virtualbox so you can keep using your old Windows business apps (like Outlook). Then use Mac OS X for the creative stuff like video editing. Also what's wrong with Final Cut, unless you use After Effects I am not aware of much you can do in Premiere that you can't do in Final Cut?
 
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