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Yay! Give the consumers what they deserve! It really is a win/win for everyone. It’s time developers get paid real money + incentives. (For their hard work, creating/developing/innovative the apps).

This number could be a lot higher! FACTS!!!

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Sideloading apps meaning more cracked apps and less money for the developers just like what's happening on Android.
 
Then don't use third party app stores.
this seems to be a common refrain from those who support forced side-loading.

Any system that allows 3rd party app stores or side loading is a vector for attacks.
Those attacks could be misleading someone to install a 3rd party storefront they didn't intend to, or directly attacking the install process to serrupticiously install software on someone's device.

The 50,000,000 number is cleverly chosen to only involve the two larges cellphone vendors, and conveniently avoids forcing Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo to allow third party app installs on their devices.
The hypocrisy is thick in this one.
 
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Will the government next force Walmart to allow Target to advertise their own products and install their own cash registers in Walmart stores?
If Walmart and its next-biggest competitor had the market share Google's Play Store and Apple's App store have, they should.
 
The security of iOS is from the sandboxing model, not the App Store. In fact, you can technically already side load- it’s just difficult.

It is refreshing to see somebody who actually understands how iOS currently works.

It’s mind boggling how many people have posted something to the effect of “third-party app store means completely insecure spam filled malware device”.
 
I was replying to somebody specifically about the Indie games example and it being optional.
The reality is people probably will leave Apple’s App Store if it is not a compelling offering.

Do you realize what you were saying there?
You’re advocating for Apple’s store offering to not have to compete on the merits.

It’s time for this to be a competitive landscape.

Nothing like this would even be happening if they weren’t gouging people right now...and refusing all change (for money)

It is a competitive landscape. I can choose one of the Android business models or the iOS model. Most people choose one of the Android models, which I respect. My personal preference is iOS.

This eliminates the minority iOS business model and eliminates the competition of ideas.
 
People also don't realize this is going to be a support nightmare. I have had to deal with some odd Windows issues with Microsoft support, and they told me to reach out to the Application vendor or distributor instead. And they told me to reach out to Microsoft. If an app doesn't perform well on the phone, or the phone acts completely wrong while you have a third party app from another store, how will Apple support it?
 
I would love to hear people say they don't want this because it makes iOS less secure, but allowing Apple to scan your images and messages and possibly upload them to the government, that's OK 😂😂
Oh believe me, I am not for that too. These two things will be the death of Apple for me. Why I choose Apple over both Windows and Android will now no longer exist.
 
Interesting to see the change in sentiment in the comments given the recent controversy with csam scanning.

Personally, I’m against it. Android already allows sideloading of apps so there is consumer choice to not use Apple devices. Seeing the garbage lumped onto storefronts like Steam, feature-barren stores like Epic, and datamining-at-all-costs like Facebook and many other examples makes drawn to Apples “walled garden approach”.

If Android did not exist, then I would change my mind.
Seriously. People make the market too narrow to just satisfy their own argument. If Apple has a monopoly, then so does Google. So does Playstation. So does Windows. So does macOS. I can't use Swift for Windows Forms development on Windows! I MUST use .NET to create such an app so Microsoft must have a monopoly on apps!

No, the market is Mobile apps. Android and iOS. The market is NOT iOS apps. Just like the argument is not Windows Forms Apps or even Windows Apps. I know many companies that only have Android versions. They are still in business and doing very well.
 
Then keep using the apple app store and let us have the alternatives. Still win/win!
The presence of a security flaw is a security flaw. Even if you have it disabled. There will be exploits that will bypass this and give you a side-loaded app even if you have it disabled.
 
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That's a specious argument and you know it.
Apple sold you a phone.
This means that Apple can't control your phone and what you install.
Uhh yes it can? My grandmother has a Jitterbug. She cannot install Microsoft Word on it. I guess we need to take Jitterbug to court forcing them to create an App Store?
 
To all those cheering for what they see as "the end of Apple's control" and shouting "finally, it's happening!"
Keep in mind this is bill written and sponsored by two Representatives in the House. On average a bill has about a 7% chance of becoming law. So for all the hype this gets, it almost certainly will never come to pass.
You can track progress here: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?text=open+app#sort=relevance&sponsor=412490
 
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To all those cheering for what they see as "the end of Apple's control" and shouting "finally, it's happening!"
Keep in mind this is bill written and sponsored by two Representatives in the House. On average a bill has about a 7% chance of becoming law. So for all the hype this gets, it almost certainly will never come to pass.
You can track progress here: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?text=open+app#sort=relevance&sponsor=412490

Just a matter of time -- if it's not this one, it'll be a subsequent one.

Apple has shown they are going to do nothing unless forced

Time to force them
 
It’s coming! I’ve been saying for years that it’s just a matter of time before the hammer drops, and a government somewhere on the planet changes the law to clarify the terms and conditions of online App Stores. I think the consumer should have choice. No one is forcing any consumer to ever use a store besides the main Apple App store. But for those who would like choice, that option should exist. iPhones aren’t free, and the option to install apps from anywhere exists on the Mac, so why not the iPhone which runs a version of the macOS kernel?

Who is Apple, a distant company in California, to restrict otherwise legal trade between a willing seller of an App and a willing purchaser?? In so doing, Apple has the sole ability to collect rents and fees from in-app purchases on its platform, and everyone else is locked out. Why? This is really the long and the short of it. There should be more competition in the App Store operator market, not less. If a developer is willing to take on the cost and risk of offering an in app payment service, why should they be restricted from doing so?
This is just government stepping in way too far. They have no business forcing Apple to make a product this way. Competition exists with Android. This is what the free market is for. If developers are so frustrated with Apple, then only have Android Apps. Apple will either change or let the iPhone die. Developers trying to strongarm government to make a law like this is like a child crying to their mom about something.
 
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