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Everybody hates Office ...

Yet I haven't found a single source that says it isn't still the most used suite out there.

I agree, and while I was a big iWork user from 2005 onward, I recently switched to MS Office just for the sake of compatibility.

OneDrive and Office are really nice, and cross platform and I don't have to worry about exporting files "as" .docx or .xls to get them to clients and supervisors.

It's nice to be on a standard once again, but Windows on the Mac is about as lame as it gets. On the PC, it's light and fluffy, speedy, feature rich, and intuitive. The Mac version is the exact opposite.
 
But i am saying it's not true because it isnt lol. in what way is adobe on windows less intuitive than on macs?
all keystrokes are the same - shortcuts are the same. plugins like Visual supply co. are all multiplatform... vsco keys are multiplatform.....

or okay, if you want to retract your comments with regards to adobe CS.... Windows 7 and 8 both have very good UI designs. neither of them are sluggish and I would even argue that for some tasks, windows is more efficient than mac os x. it is by design more suited to doing more than one thing at once (snap view, the fact that the taskbars are isolated to each window as opposed to a universal contextual task bar, hover to preview etc etc)

I'm not knocking Mac OS x... I prefer it. hence why I'm a macrumors member, but I do believe the days of Mac OS X is superior to windows ala. Vista and XP days are long gone.

again, support your claim before you lay crap on something on the world wide web, readily misleading other people when they research and stumble on this thread??

OMG are you really having that much trouble with reading comprehension? I said nothing of the sort about Adobe CS running better on the Mac. And watch your tone dude using the word "crap". I didn't go there with you. Learn to be civil. :rolleyes: and do yourself a favor and read posts properly. And talk about misleading people. So many undeserved hate posts for iWork. You're incredible. Oh vey. Sigh.
 
OMG are you really having that much trouble with reading comprehension? I said nothing of the sort about Adobe CS running better on the Mac. And watch your tone dude using the word "crap". I didn't go there with you. Learn to be civil. :rolleyes: and do yourself a favor and read posts properly.

yeah okay sorry, please support your argument before you start knocking on products.

So I did disregard the fact that you brought Adobe CS in this discussion. that post compares mac os x and windows even without adobe cs being in the equation.

EDIT: "And talk about misleading people. So many undeserved hate posts for iWork"

unlike your blanket windows is inferior to mac comparison, iWork is definitely technically inferior to office in so many ways.
Numbers lack a lot of Excel's features...its not even on the same league
word is far more versatile and again more fully featured when compared to pages. i don't use powerpoint's more advanced features nearly enough to comment, but I have used keynote and have found it to be really great so kudos to keynote.
 
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I agree, and while I was a big iWork user from 2005 onward, I recently switched to MS Office just for the sake of compatibility.

OneDrive and Office are really nice, and cross platform and I don't have to worry about exporting files "as" .docx or .xls to get them to clients and supervisors.

It's nice to be on a standard once again, but Windows on the Mac is about as lame as it gets. On the PC, it's light and fluffy, speedy, feature rich, and intuitive. The Mac version is the exact opposite.

They need to just start over again, to be honest.
 
They need to just start over again, to be honest.

I actually find office 2011 to be pretty stable
im still on office 2010 on the windows side and im thinking of trialling SkyDrive.

Does anyone have any experience with using Skydrive in conjunction with Office 2011 on the mac?
is it seamless ala. dropbox where as soon as you save a file, it syncs up?
 
Was hoping to ditch Office for iWork but having seen what Apple has done to iWork I'm going to have to stay with Office. I don't trust Apple with software anymore.
 
Was hoping to ditch Office for iWork but having seen what Apple has done to iWork I'm going to have to stay with Office. I don't trust Apple with software anymore.

Well you might as well stay away from iOS, Mac OS, Final Cut, iTunes, Logic Pro or anything else. Microsoft's system and software awaits you. ;) Oh I love how you never said a thing as to what is actually wrong with iWork. Nice..
 
Well you might as well stay away from iOS, Mac OS, Final Cut, iTunes, Logic Pro or anything else. Microsoft's system and software awaits you. ;) Oh I love how you never said a thing as to what is actually wrong with iWork. Nice..

In your unbiased opinion, how is iWork superior to Office?
 
Does anyone have any experience with using Skydrive in conjunction with Office 2011 on the mac?
is it seamless ala. dropbox where as soon as you save a file, it syncs up?

That's pretty much the case. It's like Dropbox in that you can download a client, choose which folders you want to sync, and access them via a web browser. When working on a document, you can point it to your OneDrive to save it, and it will get uploaded. Naturally, the integration is much tighter with Office 2013, the OneDrive client, and Windows, but it's perfectly functional on OS X. The OneDrive mobile website and iOS app suck, but I can't say I didn't expect that.

I've pretty much ditched Dropbox because I have an Office 365 subscription, which comes with an extra 20 GB of OneDrive space.
 
In my experience, MS Office for Mac is a very poor piece of Software.

It comes with so much bloat (all I really want is Word, PowerPoint and Excel!) and it's extremely slow and laggy. It crashes all the time, takes forever to load files, and just doesn't seem like the usual polished "Mac app".

I hope this version is better! (Saying that, the only part of MSO I use is Excel)

Crashes, really?? Are you using OS9 as well?
 
Same here. I prefer iWork's interface, but Office is an evil necessity if you share documents in your job or college. iWorks and Libreoffice have the problem of requiring conversion to work with Office documents, and the conversion is far from smooth messing up complex doc/spreadsheets.

Word and excel are indispensbile academically but powerpoint is not and is quite awful. I replaced it with keynote many years ago and it makes life so much better.

Word cannot handle inserted images properly STILL. One slight modification and everything becomes displaced. Totally pathetic. Pages works so smoothly. But interconversion is not seamless. Furthermore Endnote does not work as well with Pages as Word.
 
I use Office 2011 most of the time, in fact for all my needs. It has been stable, much better than Office 2008. However, MS has yet to give us a statistical add on which is provided in the Windows version. I hope MS will do it this time round.
 
But everyone said businesses can only function with Microsoft Office? :confused:

If I tried using Pages instead of Word to produce documents at my work, I'd be told to turn it into a Word document.

Window computers cannot view Page documents ( without a web browser ).

For the moment Apple have web enabled versions of iWork, but how long will they stick around? Remember iWeb - gone, Photo Album - gone, iDisk - gone... Apple aren't particularly reliable at supporting their products for the long term.

The problem with Apple they do not share their road maps. There was a time when it seemed iWork ( pages etc ) was dead because it hadn't been a major version release for some time.

Could you guarantee that Pages, Keynote et al are going to be around in 5 years time? No. not 100%. Microsoft Office - 100% definite, Office isn't going anywhere.

Keynote is great - I like the fact I can work on my Mac and then continue on my iPad.
 
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A number (not all, of course) of academic journals won't accept LaTeX files anymore, and those that accept pdfs are diminishing.

The most reputable journals expect submissions in pdf format. There are no signs that pdf acceptance is diminishing. After all, it's far, far easier to interface a typesetting format with an open standard like pdf than .docx.

Also, I have served as a reviewer for many, many journal articles. The submissions that are sent to me are ALWAYS in pdf format. In fact, the last time I remember seeing a Word formatted article was maybe 1999 or 2000 when journals still allowed hard copy submissions.
 
Seeing these posts, I wonder what kind of work MR posters do. I unfortunately produce documents that may be sent to others to edit.

I have to often make presentations on someone else's conference room computer which is not often a Mac.

If you live and work in an insular world where you don't have to interact with other businesses or non-Mac users then maybe these alternatives are possible.

For me, not using Office would be such a pain in the ass that regardless of how poor the software is, I have to use it because it is THE business document format.

MS Excel is unmatched by any alternative products including Apple's Numbers, and MS Word's track changes are very useful in professional settings. However, I think Keynote is better than PowerPoint and you always can buy a VGA adapter and use your iPad to display the slides.
 
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