New Video Explores Possibility of Touch ID in Fifth-Generation iPad

[2bikes]

If Apple makes the sensor ID a standard feature on every new iPad then it would NOT be an option.

What's so hard to understand about this?

The idea that we don't have to use it does not make it an option - the hardware would STILL have the sensor ID.

Sure. With your logic, it has a gps that you can turn off but it is still there and can track your every move. It can track which websites you go to. It can even record your phone conversations. Even sends your pictures to their servers without your permission. Why do they need your finger print for? Icing on the cake?

 

[alhedges]

Sure. With your logic, it has a gps that you can turn off but it is still there and can track your every move. It can track which websites you go to. It can even record your phone conversations. Even sends your pictures to their servers without your permission. Why do they need your finger print for? Icing on the cake?

I was going to write about this same thing:

This level of paranoia is just stupid in anyone who is already carrying around a device with a microphone, a voice recorder, two cameras (which also do video), and a GPS. Why, for god's sake, would a person who carries around this type of portable surveillance device be worried about *fingerprints*, which the government already has if you have a passport, a driver's license in many states, or if you have undergone a background check. Many kids are fingerprinted as well.

If you're going to believe that Apple is lying about everything and turning over fingerprint data to the NSA or whoever, why not just believe that they are transmitting photographs of you whenever you turn on your phone?

 

[iBreatheApple]

I appreciate the effort but that's an awful lot of work just to "prove" something that is pretty much inevitable.

 

[ThisIsNotMe]

How long till we get this on Macs ?

Wish I could have roaming profiles in OSX via my phone.

 

[bretm]

I got a bill in the mail the other day from Express Toll out of Denver. Apparently when I was there in May I used one of their express toll lanes and their cameras caught me, matched my license plate and state with my personal information and sent me the bill.

Years ago my wife ran a red light in Phoenix. She was driving her grandpa's car. With facial recognition software, and the fact that long ago she had an AZ driver's license that has long since expired and been relinquished, they still found her and mailed her the citation.

My point is, in this day and age, if you're so worried about gathering of personal data and privacy, you're probably better off living out your days in some underground shelter.

Facial recognition? More likely it pulled up his photo, a human checks it, and when it's not him, the licenses of immediate family comes up and the appropriate one is chosen and emailed the bill.

 

[Kramerica1]

This was kind of a dumb video. It's totally obvious that they will be putting the fingerprint sensor in the upcoming iPad 5, it's just a matter if they will put them in all models they announce. I think they are holding off announcing the product until they can get the production of the sensors up to the levels they need.

 

[gaximus]

Wouldn't you need the button covering to block RF? I recall seeing one site's video where it was still able to scan the fingerprint through a banana peel folded over multiple times.

Better to ditch all technology, head for the hills, always wear a disguise, vary your gait every time you're outside, only deal in cash, live off grid, grow your own food, etc

It won't read through a banana peel, it won't even read through a lifeproof case.

 

[9000]

All I can say is "cool". Still haven't tried one out, and I want to.

 

[belltree]

I don't want or need a sensor ID.

Agreed 100%. No thanks on sensor ID. If included in IOS devices going forward I am done with them or worst case I would put a sticker over the button but I would rather simply not financially reward for features I do not want.

 

[9000]

How long till we get this on Macs ?

Hah, a fingerprint scanner in the MacBook Pro trackpad! What I don't understand is how it encrypts the data using... a fingerprint... if it even does. Does/could it use some unique number generated from the fingerprint as the key?

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I don't want or need a sensor ID.

I do. If anyone else wants to steal my fingerprint, I'm flattered, but I don't think I'm that interesting of a person.

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Years ago my wife ran a red light in Phoenix. She was driving her grandpa's car. With facial recognition software, and the fact that long ago she had an AZ driver's license that has long since expired and been relinquished, they still found her and mailed her the citation.

Pro tip: If you don't live in Arizona, you can get away with not paying it as long as you're not going back there within a few months (I forget how many).

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I'm simply astonished at how many sheeple here have ZERO concern over the continual advances in gathering our personal data.

'Cause we're not Libertarians, paranoid, or criminals and are proud of the fact. By the way, if they're really taking your data, and you've been using passwords (as you've said) for the Apple ID, they already have your credit card info, personal info, and probably a lot of other things.

The fact that you care so much about your fingerprint being private alarms me. It's as if you wouldn't want your fingerprints identified at a crime scene. If Apple really is secretly sending these somewhere, they are doing an incredible job with hiding it.

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But if Apple says they only save the data of the scanner inside the phone and you don't believe them that, why do you believe them they wouldn't scan your finger, just because you said you don't want the feature?

Hackers have been looking through Apple's hardware and software for a long time now to try and get a jailbreak. They would have noticed something fishy if there was anything fishy going on, or, better yet, one of the many Apple programmers would have spilled the beans.

 

[the8thark]

Finally, First!!!! I wonder if this could lead to multiple profiles on an iPad so other people in the house can use it as their own. Would be fine with 128GB.

Yes your juvenile behaviour is on display for all to see.

Back on topic. This is pretty obvious really. The 5th Gen iPad will get the 5S features like the print scanner and better camera and the new Mini will not have these to differentiate the two models.

 

[skellener]

You don't have to watch the video to guess that the next latest and greatest iPad will have the Touch ID sensor. Duh, of course it will. Why wouldn't it?

 

[Solomani]

You people that keep screaming NSA are hilarious. Sad, but hilarious.

They do notttttt care about your sedentary, mediocre underachieving lives. Ok?

Your fingerprint means NOTHING to Apple.

Unless these paranoids are actually over-achieving ambitious Jihadists.... well in that case, they have every reason to be afraid of using Apple's new fingerprint sensor, which could make it easier for the Feds to track them down.

 

[hyhybt]

The idea that we don't have to use it does not make it an option - the hardware would STILL have the sensor ID.

It wouldn't really make sense to double the number of models they have to produce and inventory just to leave out something that almost everybody likes and which, if you choose not to use it, doesn't get in the way of anything else.

If it makes you feel better, remember that you could tap it with a knuckle instead and it will work just as well. And it's unlikely anyone habitually keeps knuckleprints on file.

Also: there are *way* easier ways to get your fingerprints anyway. They're all over your house, car, etc. If the NSA wants them, they can get them.

 

[nick_elt]

Of course, more sensors, bigger database for your government.....

Thats if they decide to come back to work.


(Sarcasm people, calm your titties)

 

[mylop]

I hate the lack of a number keypad on the wireless!

Dude calm down. It's just a keyboard.

 

[69650]

I hope they extend Touch ID to all their products over time, especially the MBP. Would save having to remember all those PIN numbers and passwords.

 

[osofast240sx]

I hope they extend Touch ID to all their products over time, especially the MBP. Would save having to remember all those PIN numbers and passwords.

Mabey that's why the MacBook Pro has not been updated yet. Touch I'd across all premium mobile/portable devices seems almost certain. This is a huge feature got the masses. It's like keyless entry/Push button start on a car.

 

[2457282]

How long till we get this on Macs ?

The real question, in my mind, is where will they incorporate this on the macs?

Will it be on the trackpad, Magic Mouse, keyboard?

I see the touchid as a strategic direction for apple, so I have no doubt it will make it to all their products, but what is interesting is how they incorporate it.

 

[Prince Akeem]

Amazing that in these post Patriot Act, post Snowden days, we have so many people who don't hesitate to call someone concerned about privacy "paranoid" or a "tin-foil hat" wearer.

Exactly. I am amazed to see how someone (even just slightly) concerned about privacy aspects around TouchID, gets totally burned down right here on this forum. We know that today's iPhone 5S doesn't store the actual fingerprint-image itself. That's not the point. The point is the ability and trend to use more and more personal (e.g. contacts, location, habits etc.) and biometric data. The potential ability of a highly connective device like an iPhone, to send data over at any point in future.

The fact that it's more difficult to protect privacy these days, doesn't mean you totally have to give up on it!

A lot of people tend to think short term. Most of the times, you hear the same default reactions, like:

• "I've got nothing to hide, so why should I be concerned?"
• "Why bother that some companies and governments collect our personal data and habbits, only criminals should be worried"
• "The NSA already has access to [x] data. It's doesn't make sense to protect this anymore"

All may sound legit, but to those people: think further. The real problem is not that you don't mind that the current government (or company) has free access to you all your digital communication logs and other stuff like your personal dairy on Facebook. The problem is, that you don't know what's going to happen with this data in future.

That you happen to like a company (and it's terms and conditions) right now, doesn't mean that you like them at any point in future. Same with governments. That you trust your government right now, doesn't mean any future governments will have the same intentions. At any point, a party owning personal data may turn against you in whatever imaginable way, even if you feel you have nothing to hide right now. To some, that may sound evil, crazy or paranoid, but face it: it happened countless of times in the past.

So, all in all most of us here are probably gadget freaks. We enjoy using (and if you can, creating) new technologies wherever possible. But for lots of things you still actually have a choice in protecting your privacy or not.

I hope this may open some eyes here

 

[patent10021]

Man, they really need to get rid of the physical home button. It's the biggest reason for requiring a phone upgrade and I suspect it's the reason why they aren't in a hurry to do away with it even though they easily could. I still have the iPhone 4 and am holding out for the spring 2014 iPhone 6. My home button is shot so I have to use Assistive Touch, a feature that is even slower than using the home button.

BGR article from 2011. Too bad Steve didn't get his way.
It has been said that Steve Jobs didn’t want any physical buttons on the original iPhone at first, and it looks like he may soon get his wish.


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[bbeagle]

Exactly. I am amazed to see how someone (even just slightly) concerned about privacy aspects around TouchID, gets totally burned down right here on this forum.

Jetson was not 'slightly' concerned, he was over-the-top paranoid.

He said that Apple WAS using the fingerprint data for other means, and was scared to use it.

I understand your points clearly, Prince Akeem. Yes, the fingerprint data DOES open up a can of worms, but you should be more scared about your privacy rights with CAMERAS than a fingerprint scanner. Most people aren't. And this is a real problem TODAY.

I remember in the 1990s where devices with cameras were banned, and people could get arrested for even bringing one into a bathroom. Now that happens every day without even a THOUGHT about someone taking a picture of you in a public gym shower or bathroom. I'm standing at a urinal all the time where the guy next to me is using his cellphone, and could easily be taking pictures of my junk if he wanted to. I'm in the showers at the YMCA and people are using cellphones in the locker rooms all the time. They could just as easily be taking pictures while acting like they're playing videogames.

 

[jbimler]

Love how this guy had to say "Dissect my iPhone 5S... in Gold!"

People do the same thing here. "My AT&T white iPhone 5S 64GB wifi+LTE". WHY DO WE NEED TO KNOW THE EXACT MODEL YOU HAVE?

 

[thebeans]

Sensor ID should only be offered as an option.

I don't trust this technology that gathers biometric data. Currently we have no idea or control on what apps do with our data. Apple shows little interest in providing consumers protections against potential data theft, unless someone like Senator Al Franken brings pressure to bear.

We've already seen that some apps would clandestinely transmit contacts and location data to third party sites without users' permission.

We also KNOW that Apple has been sending our data to the NSA.

Sure, Apple assures us that fingerprint data is not stored or sent to the cloud, etc. That and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee.

I don't want or need a sensor ID.

Then don't use it. You do realize it is optional, right?

 

[AaronTheYoung]

Sensor ID should only be offered as an option.

I don't trust this technology that gathers biometric data. Currently we have no idea or control on what apps do with our data. Apple shows little interest in providing consumers protections against potential data theft, unless someone like Senator Al Franken brings pressure to bear.

We've already seen that some apps would clandestinely transmit contacts and location data to third party sites without users' permission.

We also KNOW that Apple has been sending our data to the NSA.

Sure, Apple assures us that fingerprint data is not stored or sent to the cloud, etc. That and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee.

I don't want or need a sensor ID.

So don't use it. You don't HAVE to put your fingerprint in your device.

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You just don't GET IT, do you?

If you don't configure it to use your fingerprint, what's to GET?