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iPod New video iPod rumor

I am not opposed to the idea of the current iPod supporting video. I do not mean that I am going to watch a movie on my little screen, rather I would use it as a "preview" screen, just like viewing photos on an iPod. It would have a cable to which you could connect to the front of any tv.

This would be nice to show home movies, etc... when visiting relatives, etc... I don't really care about hollywood movies on my ipod. What's the point of that?? There isn't one. (A movie download service is a separate topic, which has nothing to do with a video iPod).

We don't want a separate iPod video. Apple finally streamlined its offering. If you don't want to use the functionality, fine. As long as the prices stay around the same, I'm fine with that. Or introduce it one model at a time (like they did with the iPod photo)
 
ok... while the Video iPod may or may not be a 'good idea', you have to think about how it will be used to see if it will be practical. Apple will not release a product just because people think its a good idea. The use for such a product is novelty at best with todays technology. OK... look at it this way... TIME! The time it would take to transfer a few videos to such a device would take quite a while under Firewire 400, and while Firewire 800 would be better, we need to think of the those freakin M$ users who haven't even heard of Firewire let alone have any version of it on their computers. Beyond the time it would take for transferring and the esthetic value (or lack there of) in watching such a full feature film on a small screen, people do want it (or so they think). The device could be nice just to keep from lugging around DVDs, but is that all bad? I see the ability of downloading the movies from an iTunes-esqe store a GREAT idea and a direction that will happen. What we do from there is what all the speculation is really about. The ability to play the videos on your mac is a given. A great way to stream the videos to your TV is a must. The ability to create a high quality DVD is a must as well (really need to think through the rights management there). Now, when it comes to transferring them to a portable player (Video iPod), how much is it needed? Everyone has a DVD player, so why would you need to hook up another video player to the system? Apple will probably never create anything as bulky as a PSP, so the displays will never be of any size for a great user experience. When do we need to watch a movie like that? A trip of longer then a half hour where you don't have anything to do. How often do we have something like that? Usually not the daily commute. A business person more so then the next person. The occasional family trip. Thats about it. In all reality, a portable DVD player or laptop makes much more sense. Also, look at the revenue. Such a device would be the high-end unit which Apple doesn't sell as much of. The price point for the videos for download would be higher then their music counterparts, but most people (besides myself) don't buy many movies. Maybe Apple could start a subscription service. Not to mention the massive server farm that would be needed to sustain such a service, even if Steve could pull together a miracle and get some of the Studios to allow distribution. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see such a download service available, I just don't see a portable video incarnation of the iPod making sense to the end user. Will someone do it, of course and already have. Will Apple someday do it, most likely. Will it be in the next 12 months... time will tell.
 
i was thinking a video i pod would not be for movies but music videos with the itunes download. and you hook up to your tv so you can have your very own mtv where ever you go. like at parties video with the music as background.
 
On the topic of the viPod

Look naysayers. People already love the video capable LaCie Silverscreen, which is basically a harddrive that you connect to your TV to watch your movies. What I want is THIS in an iPod. Just a regular iPod with the capabilities to play movies, music and photos on a TV with Apple's interface. In fact I'm thinking of getting a Mac Mini just for this purpose. And I already have a powerbook (that I connect to my TV)!

Bigger screens with a touch-sensitive scrollwheel on top of it? Hello dirt and grease! No thanks, if I wanted a portable video-player I'd get a PSP. At least I could alternate with some gameplaying.
 
Lepton said:
Gosh no! Make the screen be the entire front of the device. Make it the size of a PSP with the two ends holding the game controls chopped off. Put the scroll wheel ON the touch sensitive screen. Make it 50% transparent, make it disappear when your fingers are off the screen, and reappear when you touch. Keep it on the right side of the screen, with lists at the left side so you can scroll around and around with your thumb as usual while still seeing the lists. Or, make lists appear in portrait format with the scroll wheel at the bottom of the screen like a regular iPod, with videos of course playing in normal widescreen format.
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and give it a nice, glass screen! :) and DEFINITELY include cables to dock it to a TV, with a wireless streaming option as well :D
 
call me old fashion but i dont even like the idea of a picture ipod...Yea the album artwork is cool but i like my ipod the way it is...black and white (and kinda blue?) I use it to hold the most amounts of music I can, not pictures of my dogs and what my car looks like...So the idea of a VIDEO ipod just makes me laugh...come on....steve jobs your crazy lol....
 
paperinacup said:
A video iPod is a WASTE of money. Who wants to sit there and stare at that small screen. My cell phone screen is twice the size and that would be annoying. They would also have to up the resolution of the screen from 176x220.
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I do. My iPaq 4705 Pocket PC has a 4" display on it. Easily good enough for video viewing. I also have a Hitachi 4GB microdrive and a 1GB SD card for storing more then enough video to last me a plane trip from coast to coast. You are acting no different then the people who claim the iPod is a "waste of money". What happened to think different?
 
i have a 3rd gen...

and without out a doubt my next ipod will be a video capable one, or so i hope. even though it's sure to have a small screen it would be nice to hook it up to external displays (tv's) or just to watch when i'm on the go.
 
vPod

Hey all,

I'm taking quite a keen interest in Video Codes, eg H.264, XVid & a BBC based project called 'Dirac'. (Google it - its in development, but is already near H.264 with plenty of ideas to code in!)

A big thing about this rumored 'vPod' is going to be the screen size and the picture quality. Apple are all talking about HD video. I dont expect to see HD content on a portable video player - however, the technology behind can be used.

Imagine downloading a film (in smaller resolution than required for a monitor or a TV in H.264, with the vPod playing decoding that file in real time) and being able to store 100's of films. H.264 is designed to be high quality at low bitrates, so imagine how many films you can store with that codec in small resolutions?? 60GB vPod would store crap-loads.

A key thing here is the video rights I think. It took Apple long enough to go through the minefield that is the Music Industry.

I think the film industry is going to be harder for Apple to organise an iFlick or something like that - i hope they do, it'll be the biggest thing since moving to Intel chips.

I like the idea of Video iPods. Battery life, screen quality and useability (using possible MPEG4 DivX or XVid rips??) are big hurdles for Apple.

They'll do it - its bound to be HUGE

FireArse
 
You guys are missing a major point. Realistically if Apple releases such a beast it’s going to have a new form factor and a new design to augment the current iPod line of products. Admittedly you never take Jobs at his word when he’s on stage but he did say that video on the iPod is simply too small. What is the solution? Why do you think the features of the Photo are trickling down to the midrange iPods and the iPod Photo itself is gone? In all likelihood they are making room for a new product line. A product line that is most likely going to be a ground up redesign of the iPod to accommodate video\Audio\Photos. That’s not to say Apple is abandoning the current 4th gen form factor. It’s simply not going to be used in the iPod Video. I personally think it’s going to be something similar to the Sony PSP but Appleized. My hope is pretty simple:

iPod Video (With 80GB-60GB drives) $599-$499

iPod (With color display) $399 - $299

iPod Mini $199 - $249

iPod Shuffle (1GB - 2GB) $99 - $150

Maybe wishful thinking. Maybe not.
 
taeclee99 said:
I hope the new iPod video looks like this.

from gizmodo:
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I actually hope it doesn't look like that. Sorry but IMHO the iPod's design is getting stale. Yes 3 years ago it was fresh but at this point the whole white thing is getting uber boring. If anything make it like the iPod Mini with a metal shell in multiple colors.
 
I truly believe this may be Apple next big move. The kids get kicks out of seeing whimpy little pictures on their cells phones. Can you imagine how cool it would be to look at little mpgs on their iPods. Trading little videos back and forth.

Good flocks I would start buying Apple Stock. The future looks very bright in about 6 to 8 months.
 
my money is waiting. . . i would love a video iPod. . . . as long as there were some sort of online store i could purchase full lenght HD quality movies as well as TV episodes. or some sort of monthly fee for unlimited viewings of each. it would replace the TV!!!! id love it!!! i mean the iPod has reached its limits. what else can you do aside from make a larger HD in a smaller form facotr?!!?!
 
wPod said:
my money is waiting. . . i would love a video iPod. . . . as long as there were some sort of online store i could purchase full lenght HD quality movies as well as TV episodes. or some sort of monthly fee for unlimited viewings of each. it would replace the TV!!!! id love it!!! i mean the iPod has reached its limits. what else can you do aside from make a larger HD in a smaller form facotr?!!?!
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I'm sorry but i don't think it would replace the TV.
 
paperinacup said:
A video iPod is a WASTE of money. Who wants to sit there and stare at that small screen. My cell phone screen is twice the size and that would be annoying. They would also have to up the resolution of the screen from 176x220.
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I highly doubt a video iPod would keep the same size screen. It would have to have a larger screen.
 
Fabio_gsilva said:
Is the PSP really good? I've never saw one live, im my hands. Worth the price?? Maybe it's something very cool, but, I know it's my humble opinion, but this kind of device may avoid people to know each other, to talk more, to establish friendship...

Well, forget about it, i think I'm not good today... hehehe! :D
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Really depends on how much money you have.

$250 gets you a PSP with a 32 MB memory card. You'll have to buy a much bigger Memory Stick (which cost twice as much as CF cards) to be able to use it as a media player. A 1 GB card costs about $150. A 3 GB card costs hundreds, so its very unlikely you're going to get over 1 GB (which already pushes you to the $400 range). So you can't really store more than one movie, on a $400 system.

And IMHO the games lineup is completely unappealing. Mostly PS2 rehashes. A number of the IGN people agree with that, so it's not just me being a fanboy.



A vPod at the same price with a 20 GB hard drive, however, would be a very interesting prospect.
 
paperinacup said:
A video iPod is a WASTE of money.
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Agreed. What I would really like to see is Apple bring out a iPal. A hand held Macintosh. Tiny but useable so I can take my data with me. It would also serve the function of the iPod and play music. Video though is not as interesting. I would rather watch a video on a much larger screen.
 
GFLPraxis said:
I highly doubt a video iPod would keep the same size screen. It would have to have a larger screen.
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I do think that Apple would just take the current ipod and let it play videos which means no larger screen...shall see when the real video iPods are out...
 
GFLPraxis said:
Really depends on how much money you have.

$250 gets you a PSP with a 32 MB memory card. You'll have to buy a much bigger Memory Stick (which cost twice as much as CF cards) to be able to use it as a media player. A 1 GB card costs about $150. A 3 GB card costs hundreds, so its very unlikely you're going to get over 1 GB (which already pushes you to the $400 range). So you can't really store more than one movie, on a $400 system.

And IMHO the games lineup is completely unappealing. Mostly PS2 rehashes. A number of the IGN people agree with that, so it's not just me being a fanboy.



A vPod at the same price with a 20 GB hard drive, however, would be a very interesting prospect.
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I bought a psp last week and got a 1GB card for about $90, and I like it very much. the screen was what sold me. once I saw it in real life,the clarity blew me away. now I use it to show rough cuts of video to clients, as well as the games (I only have 2, but I also have a wide selection of emulators of classic Genesis and NES games), and the photo showing ability has already served me well. I dont know if it'll stay interesting to me, but right now I think it's great, though it won't replace my ipod & ipod shuffle for mp3 playback (mostly because they are smaller and I have a lot of iTMS tracks)
 
Video ipod AND ipod w/ video capabilities

How about a video Ipod with a larger OLED screen (not sure if this is possible yet), that has all the functionality of the regular Ipod plus video playback, (and higher price tag of course), plus revamped iPods with video out so you can carry a few movies, plug into a video out source......
 
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