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I do NOT think Apple will release a video iPod. They might release an iPod with limited video capability - i.e. play music videos - but not one to play full feature films. They may well be prepping an iDVD Movie Store but it'll be pushed in conjunction with new, indispensible bit of kit Apple will release that is seperate from the iPod line and probably lives in the sitting room. There just isn't the demand for movies on the go. Firstly, not many people would have the opportunity to watch whole movies on the go, and secondly such a little screen inevitably leads to sore eyes and loss of focus. A 3 minute music video or 5 minute cartoon could be watched on the bus or the crapper, but it would be a pain stopping and starting a film.

I haven't read the whole thread so if someone else already said this, then I agree with them!
 
Apple Dogma

RIP said:


It will be amusing when apple releases this and everyone who talked badly about it turns around and starts talking about it like it is the best thing in the world and only apple could pull it off.

Just like what happened when intel rumors turned out to be true.

"These aren’t the droids your looking for... move along"
 
I really doubt that the LH7A400 is the chip to be used.

For one, the in-built USB controller on this chip is only USB 1.1-compliant, not 2.0. USB 1.1 is too slow for transferring video from a host computer.

Unless they're using USB 2.0 controller that's separate from the SOC, but I doubt it. That would make for more power consumption

/dale
 
Yay another video iPod rumor! :rolleyes:
I bet those that say they don't like the idea of a video iPod already own an iPod Photo or maybe any other iPod. Video is going to be the next big thing in iPods and many probably don't like that their iPods will never have the processing power to do the same stuff new iPods could.
On the other hand, maybe people are imagining too much and the video function wouldn't really be advertised as for playing back full-length movies. Maybe Apple would use small animations to simulate an OS X feel and maybe let you see small video files and trailers. But that would probably mean that you could see any video file on the iPod anyway, the difference beeing that Apple doesn't say it's meant for that.
 
Video iPod = Quicktime = Online Movies = Diminished Windows Media Marketshare

Windows Media needs to go. It is terrible. Bring that iPod Video to mainstream.
 
They're doing with the iPod line what they should be doing with their applications and hardware. They've consolidated iPod into a mini media thing, and they're continuing on that theme, but whatever happened to the "Digital Hub"?!. Surely they should have some kinda Mac/TV/Radio media centre thing running, or have consolidated their programs in an intuitive way? I mean, what's going on with iTunes/Quicktime? I suppose, as they've made iTunes video enabled or whatever, they're trying to make that truly "multi"media, but they're focusing up on their money spinning iPod/iTunes combo and not on what needs attention: the basic OS apps - in my opinion (*gets ready to be flamed*) there should be ONE app for playing, organising and looking at photo/video/audio files, another app capable of displaying spreadsheets, documents and whatever accurately, another for file browsing, web browsing, RSSing and disk utilities, another for configuring the computer etc. instead of spreading the whole thing out across lots of programs that are losing the Apple trademarks of usability and intuitive control - look at Pages for example - why the ... er... why on earth is TextEdit better than Pages as a word processor? Admittedly it's more of a layout tool but jeeeeeeeeez at least give the user some option like "layout mode/text edit mode" for example? *ends rant* What am I meant to be talking about? Oh yeah. viPod. Perhaps they could make a consolidated PocketMac thing. That'd be nice. *shrugs*
 
Jimmni said:
I do NOT think Apple will release a video iPod. They might release an iPod with limited video capability - i.e. play music videos - but not one to play full feature films. They may well be prepping an iDVD Movie Store but it'll be pushed in conjunction with new, indispensible bit of kit Apple will release that is seperate from the iPod line and probably lives in the sitting room. There just isn't the demand for movies on the go. Firstly, not many people would have the opportunity to watch whole movies on the go, and secondly such a little screen inevitably leads to sore eyes and loss of focus. A 3 minute music video or 5 minute cartoon could be watched on the bus or the crapper, but it would be a pain stopping and starting a film.

I haven't read the whole thread so if someone else already said this, then I agree with them!

if macrumors had mod points, i'd mod this guy up.

i think we should be thinking something like airport express w/ video.
 
Hattig said:
Bye bye scrollwheel.

Hello touch-sensitive widescreen display with virtual scrollwheel that fills the front of the vPod.

Great idea I enjoy watching movies with fingerprints covering the screen. :rolleyes:
 
cool

taeclee99 said:
I hope the new iPod video looks like this.

from gizmodo:


If Apple made a product that looked like that, it would be pandemonium.

And everyone would be clawing to get one.


A video iPod is innevitable, and if it looked anything like that pic, well, it would be amazing.

I think the idea of vid iPod is great. Just not on the current iPod versions. :)
 
Isn't one of the main points to the iPod is that it fits neatly in your pocket. I know if it was much bigger I probably get a mini or something. That pic from engadget makes the thing look friggin huge.
 
Dr. Dastardly said:
Isn't one of the main points to the iPod is that it fits neatly in your pocket. I know if it was much bigger I probably get a mini or something. That pic from engadget makes the thing look friggin huge.

Those images are just concept images of what one (or a few) designer(s) think the product will look like. I don't have the time to make my own but the concept I would have for a video iPod would be something like a small ibook. IOW, the pod would have a flip-top screen, like a laptop. Imagine the current iPod cut in 1/2 at its width. Inside on one of the sides is the screen and on the other is the clickwheel or other controls. Well just taking my guess as how it could be, because everybody has imagined it to be only a one-part device. Or maybe it could have a drawer with controls under the screen like the annoying drawers some pre-Tiger apps have. :p

Edit: oops forgot preview and some other apps still have those drawers.
 
SiliconAddict said:
I actually hope it doesn't look like that. Sorry but IMHO the iPod's design is getting stale. Yes 3 years ago it was fresh but at this point the whole white thing is getting uber boring. If anything make it like the iPod Mini with a metal shell in multiple colors.

I'm noticing some people choosing the iPod mini solely because it 'looks cooler'; silver is by far the most popular.

It's interesting that, with the computers, white=consumer/'low end' and silver/aluminum=pro/'high end'. But with the iPod, it's reversed... sort of (the regular iPod has that oh-so-easy-to-make-fingerprints-on shiny silver back and the white front...).
 
no. i just dont like that idea. it restricts too many senses for when you're outside, and when you're inside then the iMac/eMac/MacMini/iBook/Powermac/Powerbook would surely be an adequate video viewing device?
i see things like this;

iPod: restricts hearing. dependent on volume of course

videoPod: restricts hearing depending on the volume. restricts vision. unlike my ears i cant turn down the image so i can see just a bit overlayed over whats infront of me.

surely Apple of all people know that portable video sucks? hmmm... unless they're planning something different to what we're all thinking about.
 
<i>"Sharp sales reps are bragging to potential customers that Apple will be using the Sharp LH7A400 SOC (system on a chip) in the initial version of the video iPod."</i>

If they're leaking insider knowledge about future Apple products, they can't be that sharp. That would be the fastest way to get Apple drop their company's chips (and the company to drop those sales reps).


Oh, wait....
They're reps employed by Sharp (Electronics). Not sharp (as in smart) sales reps. <rolleyes>

You can read the sentence either way.
 
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ioinc said:
It will be amusing when apple releases this and everyone who talked badly about it turns around and starts talking about it like it is the best thing in the world and only apple could pull it off.

Just like what happened when intel rumors turned out to be true.
 
Yeah pretty much, i think if Apple's gonna release the video iPod, which i think they surely will, they will do something with their iTMS...if i'm not mistaken, i read it somewhere where Apple r on the process of talking to major recording companies to sell music videos in iTMS...i'm not sure if it's a rumor or wht but i think pretty much Apple will do that...i don't think Apple will be able to sell Movies and stuffs in iTMS along with the release of iPod Video...thats not quite possible to me...
 
All they have to do is allow you to connect the thing to a camcorder via firewire and capture live video. Then the thing would rock...
(any chance of mini hard drives hitting 5400 rpm in the near future?)
 
Nastard said:
.5GB per hour is pretty huge.

My roommate can take a 2-hour DVD, rip it, re-encode to DivX, and fit the whole thing onto a CD-R. The quality difference is barely noticable on a big-screen TV; I can't imagine it being noticable on anything close the the iPod's size.

Wow, you must either have really bad eyes or a really bad big-screen TV. I have het to see a DivX-encoded movie (with the compression ration needed to put 2 hours on 650MB) look like anything other than complete crap when viewed on a large-screen set. We aren't talking DVD quality here (obviously); it's a good measure below VHS-quality. I'd equate it, other than having different looking artifacts, to about as high fidelity as a VHS tape which has been stored in a storage shack in Phoenix, AZ for two years. Really crappy quality, with annoying artifacts which can't just be ignored.

Now, this is all just one man's opinion, and I know there are DivX / DVD XCopy fans out there who swear that they love the quality of their low-end rip-offs ... I mean, backups. But I also know a lot of people who agree that it just plain looks like crap. I, for one, would be incredibly dissapointed were Apple to put out something which required that level of compression.

Now, the question remains, however: is the target output a big-screen TV, or is it a 2" iPod embedded screen? Given the estimates of GB/30 minutes, I can't imagine that being targetted at the embedded screen. Which, IMHO, is good news. I'd absolutely love to be able to whip out my iPod and hook it up to the tube to show off the latest home videos. Watching videos on a little screen is annoying.
 
I remember seeing, can't remember if it was here or slashdot, a link about these laser retina projector glasses things that some company developed last year and that Apple was taking an interest in... an iPod with a jack for some sort of lightweight eyewear would be interesting. Maybe have the option to watch it on the headset, the little 2" LCD (a preview mode, if you will) or plugged into an SVideo connection on a TV.
 
dlfitch said:
All they have to do is allow you to connect the thing to a camcorder via firewire and capture live video.

ENCODING raw video to MPEG4 formats in real time would take more CPU power than is likely to be in a small, handheld device such as viPod.

dlfitch said:
(any chance of mini hard drives hitting 5400 rpm in the near future?)

You would really want the shorter battery life and greater heat and noise as a result?

/dale
 
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