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Have to imagine it was partly due to ports and just changing up the design for the sake of design. The latter seems unlike Apple but say that because of the design feeling non progressive to me.
It will definitely be interesting to see the inevitable teardowns next week and get a look at the sizes for the main board, batteries, cooling design, etc.…I’m thinking they could have found a way to fit the extra ports in and still employ a sharper/tapered bottom if ports were the only issue. I don’t really have a need for the ports (I have a dongle I like for the rare instances I need HDMI, and I need both SD and CF-Express card readers so I’m still bringing an external reader), but I recognize that these are on the desired-features list for quite a few people.
 
Some people just need a 16inch but with the performance of M1, which is still more than fast enough for most non GPU intensive work.
People with specific needs should not be interested in Apple products to begin with because their nomenclature is too limited. Just go with Windows and you will have thousands of options. You will always find what you need.
 
It will definitely be interesting to see the inevitable teardowns next week and get a look at the sizes for the main board, batteries, cooling design, etc.…I’m thinking they could have found a way to fit the extra ports in and still employ a sharper/tapered bottom if ports were the only issue. I don’t really have a need for the ports (I have a dongle I like for the rare instances I need HDMI, and I need both SD and CF-Express card readers so I’m still bringing an external reader), but I recognize that these are on the desired-features list for quite a few people.
Yeah guess for my use case, was wishing the 14” was a bit more portable that I thought the new silicon would allow, while still having brilliant performance. SD i can understand with cameras, drones, go pros etc even though cf-express is becoming more prevalent, but baffled by need for hdmi.
 
Yeah guess for my use case, was wishing the 14” was a bit more portable that I thought the new silicon would allow, while still having brilliant performance. SD i can understand with cameras, drones, go pros etc even though cf-express is becoming more prevalent, but baffled by need for hdmi.
I doubt either HDMI or SD affected MBPs weight or thicknesses at all. New M1s are very big chips. Battery and cooling is what most likely determined the size of these models.
 
Yeah guess for my use case, was wishing the 14” was a bit more portable that I thought the new silicon would allow, while still having brilliant performance. SD i can understand with cameras, drones, go pros etc even though cf-express is becoming more prevalent, but baffled by need for hdmi.
It seems like the HDMI need is largely showing up at customer sites and needing to connect to projectors or large screens via HDMI. The 14”/16” decision has been a struggle for me, trading off the relative value of more portability vs more screen real estate (especially considering how nice the new displays are). I guess I can blame Apple for putting so much capability into a 14” platform that now it’s a choice to be considered.
 
It seems like the HDMI need is largely showing up at customer sites and needing to connect to projectors or large screens via HDMI. The 14”/16” decision has been a struggle for me, trading off the relative value of more portability vs more screen real estate (especially considering how nice the new displays are). I guess I can blame Apple for putting so much capability into a 14” platform that now it’s a choice to be considered.
Yeah I debate the same. To me the 15” was a nice sweet spot, but having played with the intel 16”, found it too bulky and heavy for travel. So could only imagine what this new one will feel like. I like having as much power as possible for editing, 3D rendering, but may have to consider to see what the new airs end up being like.
 
Except the new one is half a pound heavier

Irrelevant? Hardly....

Your opinion, but most beautiful design you've ever seen, really?

Outdated and irrelevent seem to be 2 of your favourite words ... did you learn them today?
Half a pound is essentially nothing even for a disabled person. They're equally portable.
 
People with specific needs should not be interested in Apple products to begin with because their nomenclature is too limited. Just go with Windows and you will have thousands of options. You will always find what you need.
What? Haha. That's the worse take I think I've ever read on this site! And that's saying something considering we are on MRs!
 
Why can’t you archive videos with Apple Silicon?
I can, but I mentioned that because the things I do work fine on my current MacBook Pro and don't really warrant an upgrade. What's holding me back is compatibility with x86 virtual machines at the moment.
 
That... doesn't relate at all to what I'm responding to? (And I really don't care about the notch. Every design has its considerations, and I think on balance I'd rather have a well-positioned or better webcam than a smaller bezel and worse, as is the tradeoff that Dell has made or makes now. You're literally sacrificing no screen real estate compared to previous MacBook screens even with the notch. It makes very little sense to me to complain about it.)

The irony of you complaining about MacRumors as a whole as fanboys while posting on MacRumors seems a bit more strong to me.
Exactly fanboys, there’s no real criticism here.
 
People with specific needs should not be interested in Apple products to begin with because their nomenclature is too limited. Just go with Windows and you will have thousands of options. You will always find what you need.
One could argue Apple users are full of people with specific needs, especially when it comes to computers, given the software and features that are only available on macOS.
 
Which is fine but a machine like that isnt in Apple’s lineup right now, doesnt make the new macbook pros bad, just means your use case isnt represented. It’s not like this is new, there never was a 16” iBook to step up from the 14” and complement the 17” powerbook for example
Not saying the new ones are bad, just that a lot of people would probably not need that extra power and just want a larger screen. There are plenty of devs I know who has always bought the 15”/16” screen for the screen when the power in the 13” would have been enough.
 
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One could argue Apple users are full of people with specific needs, especially when it comes to computers, given the software and features that are only available on macOS.
There is at least an order of magnitude more software and hardware on Windows than what's offered by Apple. Most of it is not available on macOS.
 
There is at least an order of magnitude more software and hardware on Windows than what's offered by Apple. Most of it is not available on macOS.

More choice isn’t always better, especially if it doesn’t give you more of what you want. Apple’s whole stick is basically optimising for a few selected use cases, and so it appeals to that subset of users whose needs fit.

For example, numerous YouTubers have made pretty strong cases about why they prefer editing videos using Final Cut Pro on a Mac, idiosyncrasies and limitations and all (and in hindsight, I think that was the market Apple was targeting when they revamped FCP X).

That’s what makes Apple so polarising. Their stuff is magical when it works, and downright frustrating when it doesn’t.
 
It's huge! Well, I am glad that professionals are going to be happy. If the performance is something someone needs for their work or a hobby, then who cares if it's bigger.

I do think that the older 15" model MacBook Pros with TB look more futuristic.

Like the new MacBook Pro looks previous gen compared to the older MacBook Pro in the video, and the older one looks space age
 
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im still using a 2012 MacBook pro 15 non retina. and its big and heavy. this new 16" has the same width and height, but 20% thinner. so im used to this size
 
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I wish the Magsafe 3 port was the L-shaped type, like the second generation. Hopefully we'll have third-party options.
L shaped MagSafe is the 1st generation MagSafe. im using it right now on my 2012 MacBook pro 15 non-retina. i think its much better than the straight design here.
 
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