New Video Provides Extensive Hands-on Look at New 16-inch MacBook Pro [Updated]

[Quu]

It's also gotten quite thick and big. Irrelevant when used as a pseudo-desktop. But for people who actually take it out every day, I honestly find it too big and too thick compared the 15 and 16"ers of yesteryear.

And yet it's only slightly thicker (like 0.02mm or something) and slightly heavier (20 grams).

It just looks thicker because the taper on the bottom has been brought closer to the edge than in the MacBook Pro's we've become accustomed to that throttle if you so much as open a browser tab.

The laptops still are taking up the same physical space, they still sit the same height off a table when the lid is open, just look at a current 16" and the physical edge of the laptop sits so high off the table it could be 2x as thick but its an optical illusion due to the taper.

 

[workerbee]

But for people who actually take it out every day, I honestly find it too big and too thick compared the 15 and 16"ers of yesteryear.

Compared to a 2019 16”, it’s probably going to be almost exactly the same actual size and weight. TBH, the 2019 16” is in fact slightly too big and heavy to take out every day.

 

[Denzo]

Not in the market but the keyboard is way more Toshiba than Apple.

 

[4ubrey]

re: people talking about its thickness

Marginally thicker? could care less.
Substantially more powerful? Finally!!

Personally I want a machine that is super powerful but able to take it to and from my office and occasionally use it’s screen. 90% of the time it’s on a desk and connected to a monitor/keyboard/mouse.

 

[James Godfrey]

Not in the market but the keyboard is way more Toshiba than Apple.

My worry with that keyboard is that the black anodisation will eventually start chipping, Apple have never had a good track record of pure black anodising in the past.

 

[ValSalva]

It’s compared to a 15” MBP. You can tell by the lack of a separate Touch ID. It’s part of the Touch-bar on the 15” but is a separate button on the 16”

What I unfortunately see, is screen edge dimming on the M1 MBP. It looks similar to the 1mm to 1.5mm of dimming all along the sides of my 12.9” M1 iPad Pro display. That would be disappointing. I wonder if it’s a mini-LED thing. The 15” MBP has the same brightness right into the bezel.

 

[Seanm87]

Tbh I'm not a fan of the thickness either and don't really need the power, but I need that Mini LED 120hz display!

 

[haydn!]

Wow, these MacBooks certainly have not been put on a diet. They've piled on some considerable weight & fatness since the last generation! Weren't the M1 series of chips supposed to enable smaller and lighter designs? Or at least, better battery life and thermals within the existing ones?

The thickness is largely determined by the ports. Not the chipset.

 

[acblue94]

It's definitely not. Let me remind you that the display includes thousands of miniLEDs which naturally will make the display thicker, add FaceID on top of that and that would've made the display even thicker.

Then why make the notch so large in width?

 

[kht410]

Wow, these MacBooks certainly have not been put on a diet. They've piled on some considerable weight & fatness since the last generation! Weren't the M1 series of chips supposed to enable smaller and lighter designs? Or at least, better battery life and thermals within the existing ones?

Being smaller and lighter will be the focus of the Air line. In the Pro line, I think it makes perfect sense that it is beefier. The line up is starting to make sense now.

In the 2016-2019 design series we had a MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and a plain MacBook that was lighter than the Air. It was a mess.

 

[th1nk]

If you look at their photos of the display dissected (from Apples own unveil) there are no miniLED's at the level the Notch is. Essentially where the menubar goes, there are no miniLED's. The array only begins below the notch.

False, there are mini LED left and right to the notch, they were just dark in the picture you mention. But I agree, there are no mini LED where the notch is, so it might be possible to fit a FaceID array there.

 

[widget999]

That’s what I’m doing. Never liked the airs previously but these rumoured new ones look niiiiice. My 15” MBPR late 2013 Is the perfect size and weight, I won’t be buying one of these chunky boys

The new 16“ is thinner and narrower than a 2013 15“ in and only 100g heavier and 1mm larger in depth

Height:
2021: 16.8mm
2013: 18.0mm
Width:
2021: 355.7mm
2013: 359.0mm
Depth:
2021: 248.1mm
2013: 247.0mm
Weight:
2021: 2.10kg
2013: 2.02kg

 

[CosmoPilot]

Apple:
“I heard all your complaints. Therefore we designed the following improvements/upgrades over the previous 16” model:

1. Improved Audio/Video experience
2. Better Camera
3. More port options w/ TB4 and Magsafe!
4. Fast Charging
5. 120 Hz display w/ProMotion
6. The most powerful ARM SoC chips ever designed and used in a laptop computer that you’ll absolutely struggle to get the fans to kick on with. We’re talking almost desktop quality GPU performance. Stream 7 feeds of 8K video. Dedicated ProRes encode/decode engines, 400 GB/s memory bandwidth, 64 GB unified memory….and much, much more…

However, we need to increase the thickness by 0.02 inches!”

Apple hater:
“It’s just too thick and the notch is so ugly, I’m cancelling my order!”

 

[SWC]

That’s what I’m doing. Never liked the airs previously but these rumoured new ones look niiiiice. My 15” MBPR late 2013 Is the perfect size and weight, I won’t be buying one of these chunky boys

Well good news, the new 16" is almost identical in size and weight to your 15". Its bigger than the outgoing model but almost the same as what you have (slightly bigger in some dimensions, ~1/10") but thinner.

2013 15"
Height: 0.71 inch (1.8 cm)
Width: 14.13 inches (35.89 cm)
Depth: 9.73 inches (24.71 cm)
Weight: 4.46 pounds (2.02 kg)

2021 16"
Height 0.66 inch (1.68 cm)
Width: 14.01 inches (35.57 cm)
Depth: 9.77 inches (24.81 cm)
Weight: 4.7 pounds (2.1 kg)

 

[Kylo83]

I’m hearing the new 16 is smaller screen than the intel 16 how is that possible, 9to5 said that

 

[FrankySavvy]

That’s what I’m doing. Never liked the airs previously but these rumoured new ones look niiiiice. My 15” MBPR late 2013 Is the perfect size and weight, I won’t be buying one of these chunky boys

The 15” MBPR is thicker than the new 16.2”. 0.71 inch vs 0.66 inch. The new 16.2” is 0.8kg or 0.2 pounds heavier.

 

[Leon Ze Professional]

Chunky, but otherwise I like it. Couldn't help notice how much taller the menu bar is on these new Macbooks!

 

[RemedyRabbit]

I didn't realize that the full screen mode menu bar would no longer overlap whatever was at the top of full screen, like in the past. Niiiice!

I'm really happy about this. Using controls at the top of an app in fullscreen mode can be very frustrating with the menu bar constantly popping down and covering them up. Happens to me all the time in the Music app when I try to skip into a tune, it's bad interaction design. Now it's fixed!

edit although of course it's still broken when using external displays ?

 

[matrix07]

One of the most important factors for me with a laptop is size and weight

Then buy MBA. Problem solved?

 

[velo]

Thiccbook Pro

 

[atomheart]

I am sorry. That's just my personal opinion. But I really don't find it good looking. In fact I find Apple really lazy. Now I am not saying: oh change the design every two years like some cheap Windows laptop. But geez. My Powerbook G4 looked exactly the same (except for the keyboard). And that was 15+ years ago. It's also gotten quite thick and big. Irrelevant when used as a pseudo-desktop. But for people who actually take it out every day, I honestly find it too big and too thick compared the 15 and 16"ers of yesteryear.

Exactly what I thought! Totally reminds me of my PowerBook G4 from 2003 and that had a cd drive! Apple going retro? I was kind of expecting they’d go more for an iPad Pro design with flat tops and sharper edges, that would’ve felt more modern. Still on the fence about this..

 

[FrankySavvy]

If you look at their photos of the display dissected (from Apples own unveil) there are no miniLED's at the level the Notch is. Essentially where the menubar goes, there are no miniLED's. The array only begins below the notch.

I believe that was just conveying the image displaying during the dissection. There must be mini-led to the left and right of the notch, what else would be lighting up the content there when it’s displayed.

 

[Wildkraut]

The new 16“ is thinner and narrower than a 2013 15“ in and only 100g heavier and 1mm larger in depth

Height:
2021: 16.8mm
2013: 18.0mm
Width:
2021: 355.7mm
2013: 359.0mm
Depth:
2021: 248.1mm
2013: 247.0mm
Weight:
2021: 2.10kg
2013: 2.02kg

So thick, I suggest to belt one on the chest and one on the back as a bulletproof vest.

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[CosmoPilot]

The new 16“ is thinner and narrower than a 2013 15“ in and only 100g heavier and 1mm larger in depth

Height:
2021: 16.8mm
2013: 18.0mm
Width:
2021: 355.7mm
2013: 359.0mm
Depth:
2021: 248.1mm
2013: 247.0mm
Weight:
2021: 2.10kg
2013: 2.02kg

You forget. All the current haters despised carrying around the 2013 15”. Go back and look at all their old posts. It was just too chunky and thick to carry around. ?

Not to mention the new 16” vs 2019 16” is just 0.02” thicker. People just love to complain when they have zero idea what the machine looks like in person. If the added weight and minuscule additional thickness is too much for the beast within then I say pass and move on….stop complaining!

 

[kawa636r]

I love it