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By the way, on Sunday, I was shopping at South Coast Plaza & might as well swung by Apple store, came up to the "GENIUS BAR" & asked them about the defective samsung panel; the gentlemen said: No, we don't know anything about this, no customer has brought this issue in at all. Consider the Apple store at South Coast Plaza - it's a big store, has everything you need. Anyway I said to him: really, if you google it, it's all over, from forums to forums, you won't missed any details. That just irritated me. I'd rather him be honest. Then, I made another trip to Micro Center, which is 6 miles away. The salesman told me that this issue is well known there, indeed, a customer came by & he had to opened 4 MB's to find a different panel other than samsung, no luck. Now that's business!
Personally, I could see the lines but my 3 weeks old MB is running perfectly & quietly. I wouldn't want to send in for service. "If it doesn't break, don't fix it." I'm happy :)
 
I have a W8910 serial and the Samsung LCD. I too have the lines.

What I'm more concerned about is that in the bottom two corners of the screen there are dark spots, as if the light isn't reaching those two corners. Anyone else see this issue?

I bought the unit from a MicroCenter one week ago. If I take it in to an Apple store, will they replace it for me or send me back to MicroCenter? I'd rather kill two birds with one stone and get both issues resolved with a new LCD.

thanks!
 
Apple has always cheaped out on the displays of its consumer level portable. Always. Compare an iBook to a Powerbook and the book's display is blocky and pixellated compared to its shiny sister.

Apple would use OLPC displays on its entry level laptop if it thought it could get away with it.

OP, thanks for raising the alarm and bringing attention to this issue.
 
I am the Apple store now and the Genius agreed the dark spots are borderline and is swapping the MacBook. Talk about service! Now when it finishes transferring my data I just need to check the panel. Btw the replacement is serial W8915.
 
Well the transfer is complete. I see the new MacBook does indeed have the same display and the lines. However the corners are not nearly as dark an the brightness seems more uniform. I am satisfied. Thanks OP for raising the issue but I guess we will need to live with it...
 
Well the transfer is complete. I see the new MacBook does indeed have the same display and the lines. However the corners are not nearly as dark an the brightness seems more uniform. I am satisfied. Thanks OP for raising the issue but I guess we will need to live with it...

which apple store did you go to? the two i went to wouldn't do jack for me, i ended up returning my system as i couldn't handle the lines. i did bootcamp and while the lines didn't look as bad in osx, they looked pretty bad in win 7. thinking about just picking up the unibody when snow leopard comes out...
 
Well the transfer is complete. I see the new MacBook does indeed have the same display and the lines. However the corners are not nearly as dark an the brightness seems more uniform. I am satisfied. Thanks OP for raising the issue but I guess we will need to live with it...

I'm sortof in this camp. Just not that bad since I use external displays 90% of the time.

Cheers,
 
I am looking at my macbook screen next to my Sony Vaio and I can tell a huge difference in quality. The Macbook screen color is washed out and the images are not as sharp. I didn't notice it until now when I have the two laptops side by side. Also, when I am using a dark background, I can see the horizontal stripes.


Willowbrook in Wayne, NJ
 
I'm a little confused here. I bought my whitebook from Microcenter as well and the aurora background looks fine to me. The menus, however, do have the pin striping effect. I thought that was how the menus were supposed to look?

I thought the menus in OSX were supposed to have tiny little horizontal lines like in this screenshot here (random Google search)

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Deep down inside, I'm hoping that mine is affected by the error and that my local Apple store would offer me an upgrade to the unibody macbook. :)

Mine doesn't have those lines ...
 
I'm a little confused here. I bought my whitebook from Microcenter as well and the aurora background looks fine to me. The menus, however, do have the pin striping effect. I thought that was how the menus were supposed to look?

I thought the menus in OSX were supposed to have tiny little horizontal lines like in this screenshot here (random Google search)

81Screenshot-Unread.png


Deep down inside, I'm hoping that mine is affected by the error and that my local Apple store would offer me an upgrade to the unibody macbook. :)

That's a screenshot from 10.4.x (note the square corners on the menu). The menus in 10.5.x do not have those stripes - at least they're not supposed to.
 
Mine was a week 13 purchased from Microcenter. In addition to the banding problems, it suffered from terribly dark corners due to an uneven backlight.

Took it to an Apple store (Fairview) since I live in Toronto and can't go back to Microcenter anytime soon. Tech acknowledged banding after running diagnostic tests, he said it was especially prevalent with "whites & greens". However, he states it is "performing as functioned" and that nothing can be done for the banding. I questioned him on this lcd compared to others in the product line. He states they can't be compared since they're different products. Then I proceeded to compare it to other plastic macbooks, he again used the same reasoning (different models). I finally compared it to other nvidia 09 macbooks that had LG lcd's. He had no response for that one....

Luckily or unluckily, since my display had the dark corners also, he was willing to replace my 3 week old Macbook with a new unit. Knowing the info I gleamed from this thread, I checked the serial # and it is from week 16. Knowing it'll most likely be a Samsung panel, but at least with a better backlight, I agreed to the switch. We ran migration assistant in-store and moved all my data over.

I checked all 4 demo units in store, they were all from week 8 and all contained the Samsung panel.

Apple is unfortunately going to cut corners for its consumer lines. They are counting on folks not noticing these quality issues, their target market being average people that have trouble understanding computer mumbo jumbo.
 
Serial number: W8905
Display: 00009C5B

I can see the lines when opening a menu over a black background. The problem goes away when looking at the screen from above (a little). The brightness is also considerably lower in the bottom corners of the screen.
 
I have the exact same issue as the original poster. Will be heading to the Genius bar tomorrow. :mad::(
 
no problems here i have one that is said to have pinstripes might have something to do with buying direct from apple:D
 
AppleCare just replaced the display on my Core Duo MB for 2 stuck pixels w/ the following. Looks good to me.

Manufacturer Date: C01D6580
LCD Panel: 00009C5F
 
Well, I showed a genius at the Apple Store the problem and they agreed to replace the screen, but they have no way of telling if the new one is going to be good or bad before they do it. Hopefully I get lucky the first time and the replacement is an LG one.

Will keep you guys posted. Luckily I went to an Apple Store that had all the display models using the LG screen, so I was able to show them the difference side by side with the Samsung on mine. The difference in quality is very obvious when you put them side by side.

Another Apple Store in my city has about half the display models LG and the other half Samsung. You can totally tell that the Samsungs have inferior screens. I can't believe they haven't noticed it yet, or maybe they have, I don't know.

But when you base your buying decision on a display model that has a good screen, and then they send you a crappy one, that's a form of false advertising. I feel ripped off. If I had seen the Samsung display originally I would have never bought the Macbook because it's so obviously bad. I would have seen it right away because I'm really picky about little things. But the model I looked at before purchasing was a good one with the LG screen. Who knew at the time that they had different screens floating around in the marketplace?
 
I had an early 2008 Macbook with the Samsung 9C5B display and recently came across a great deal on an early 2009 which happened to have the 9C5F and it is tremendously better.
Serial: WQ904
Display: 9C5F
 
Apple Fail.
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So I got my Macbook back today and lo and behold the new replacement screen has the same exact defect! Booooooooooooooooo. :(

In fact the screen was worse because the bottom corners were noticeably darker than the one I got in the first place. Boooo.

This time I spoke with the technician at the Apple Store who replaced the screen. At first he seemed a little unwilling to help me further, and I was understandably a little bit frustrated and upset, he'd probably had a long day with customers too. But I pulled my good ol' histrionics. I demanded that Apple find some way to send me one of the good LG replacement screens. Then I waited while he went "to see". He said there was no way to know which one and that they'd probably just send him the same one based on the serial number. I said that I didn't care if this costs Apple $10,000 to fix but that I would keep sending it back over and over again until I got a good screen with no horizontal lines. He again went "to see". After I said this he probably got so sick of me that he put in the report that my system needed to be replaced. He then gave me number to call and a case number that would bump me up past the first level of customer service. So I called Apple from the Apple Store and after waiting on hold for 20-30 min talked to a guy who then sent me up a level to another guy and I explained what was going on with the screens and he agreed to send me a replacement since the technician advised it, but that he also had no way of knowing whether or not I would get one with a good screen. So now they're sending me the tags I need to send this one back and are going to send me a replacement. Next week some other people who handle replacements will call me and I will try to get them to make sure they send me a good one. But they'll probably tell me there is no way. I will do my best on behalf of all Apple customers.

I'm really worried that after all this I'm still just going to get another one with the bad screen, and I will be back where I started, or probably worse if this new one has dark corners too. And I can't help but feel that someone, somewhere at Apple can call somebody, somewhere else at Apple that can make sure they send me a good screen.

So here I am. Still $2000 poorer and without the Macbook I paid for. Who knows when I'll get the one I paid for. And since all the Macbooks I've seen on display with the Samsung screens had this horizontal line banding problem, there must also be many other customers who've been sold defective merchandise. When you think of all my time lost, all their time lost, and the hassle created for all of us, I just feel terrible all around for everybody.

P.S. Some other Apple Store associate mentioned that someone else was in the store the other day buying a Macbook and demanding that they give him one with a "certain serial number". I bet he was trying to avoid the W8 prefix that indicated the Shanghai factory that many of the defective ones seem to be coming from.

P.P.S. Oh, and I forgot to mention that the guy on the phone said he would put in a report about this problem and that they would "capture" my returned machine to investigate further. And also the technician said he would also make a report about it and he took some photographs of my screen with a digital camera.
 
W8909
9C5F
no problems

I'm normally very sensitive to display quality and found no problems with mine...
 
W8909
9C5F
no problems

I'm normally very sensitive to display quality and found no problems with mine...

Good to hear. You have the good 9C5F screen from LG. I've seen them on display and they look good.
 
What color profile you guys are using? I would especially like to know which one the topic creator is using when he took those photos.

I have a late 2007 white MacBook with the 9C5B panel and the issue is only really noticeable if I set it to any profile other the default Color LCD profile.

On either 1.8 or 2.2 gamma Color LCD profile I barely even see any of the banding or dots, however if I for example use the Adobe or sRGB profiles the banding and dots become very evident (almost like the Aurora photo topic creator posted, but only not that bad). Also, I don't have the lines issue mentioned. In Windows XP the issue also isn't as noticeable.

So I guess I'm fortunate that I don't have it as bad as others here, especially like the topic creator. Still, I freaking hate it to death, especially since I'm stuck having to use the default color profile. :mad:
 
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